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[Deadlysyns]

 so Obviously you would expect killing someones leader to start a war. the game could of benefited more from a third Act Dealing with the Return of the qunari perhaps, rather then a Templar war i mean the Qunari should be going to War with the Free Marches but instead they just Vanish. Either way i think that was done horribly, they could of done a DLC called holy War or something that built upon the Effect that the qunari had. I mean they just Pretty much ignored everything that happened with the Qunari except for the Viscounts Death it Struck me as odd. As well the Qunari story made things more interesting, i just hated how all the people in power pretty much just moved on. would you like to see more on the Qunari as well as the Templar/Mage war in the future or just on the Templar/Mage war and if soo how would you involve the Qunari 

[David Gaider]

Just a note: the Arishok is not the Qunari leader but *a* Qunari leader. They are ruled by a triumvirate. It's probably also worth noting that the Arishok broke the Llomerryn Accord through his attack. It's not as if his death (if it happened) was unprovoked.

[Icy Magebane]

I didn't kill the Arishok... IMO he owes me big time when the mage/templar war kicks off.

[yogolol]

I`m thinking that the other Qunari leaders decided that the Arishok made a dumb move and it wasn`t worth going to war over, and they`re already in a war with the Teventer (spelled wrong probably) so starting a second war probably isn`t a good idea.

[Zaros]

The Arishok himself said they'd be back, but it does take time for letters of the Qunari defeat to travel from Kirkwall, in the south, all the way to Par Vollen, which is pretty much at the northernmost point of Thedas.

Then you also have to consider how much time the Triumvirate must now spend planning their war against Kirkwall, if they even decide to act, as well as how much time it'd take to march/sail all the way back down there.

Like most cliffhangers, this is just something that'll have to be resolved in DA3/ a DLC pack/ expansion.

[Deadlysyns]

Thank you for clearing that up i was going off what he said we will return perhaps he didn't know if they would but it seems like he assumed there would be a war.

[Deadlysyns]

Zaros wrote...

The Arishok himself said they'd be back, but it does take time for letters of the Qunari defeat to travel from Kirkwall, in the south, all the way to Par Vollen, which is pretty much at the northernmost point of Thedas.

Then you also have to consider how much time the Triumvirate must now spend planning their war against Kirkwall, if they even decide to act, as well as how much time it'd take to march/sail all the way back down there.

Like most cliffhangers, this is just something that'll have to be resolved in DA3/ a DLC pack/ expansion.

Yes i would like that i feel the Qunari are being given the short end of the Stick here in the DA world 

[Jaron Oberyn]

David Gaider wrote...

Just a note: the Arishok is not the Qunari leader but *a* Qunari leader. They are ruled by a triumvirate. It's probably also worth noting that the Arishok broke the Llomerryn Accord through his attack. It's not as if his death (if it happened) was unprovoked.

But didn't he justify his attack by protecting his followers of the Qun? (Saemus and the two elves). So how would it be unprovoked in the eyes of the Qunari if he was following their philosophy?

-Polite

[Deadlysyns]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Just a note: the Arishok is not the Qunari leader but *a* Qunari leader. They are ruled by a triumvirate. It's probably also worth noting that the Arishok broke the Llomerryn Accord through his attack. It's not as if his death (if it happened) was unprovoked.

But didn't he justify his attack by protecting his followers of the Qun? (Saemus and the two elves). So how would it be unprovoked in the eyes of the Qunari if he was following their philosophy?

-Polite

Yes because Aveline wouldn't back down she wanted the Elves and wouldn't take no for an anwser i am sure if she had the citizens of kirkwall would of Started the war 

[Foolsfolly]

Llomerryn Accord?

....time load a completed character to look through the codex...

[David Gaider]

PoliteAssasin wrote...
But didn't he justify his attack by protecting his followers of the Qun? (Saemus and the two elves). So how would it be unprovoked in the eyes of the Qunari if he was following their philosophy?

That's certainly how he justified it to himself. Whether the rest of the Ariqun will ever know what his reasoning was, and agree with it, is another matter entirely.

[Icy Magebane]

Again, I have to disagree... I made Aveline back down... maybe there's more variation in this game than I thought. As I recall, the only reason they started attacking was because of Saemus and the Relic... mostly the Relic though. I blame Isabela for the whole attack tbh.

[Jaron Oberyn]

I see. Thanks for the response.

-Polite

[Deadlysyns]

David Gaider wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...
But didn't he justify his attack by protecting his followers of the Qun? (Saemus and the two elves). So how would it be unprovoked in the eyes of the Qunari if he was following their philosophy?

That's certainly how he justified it to himself. Whether the rest of the Ariqun will ever know what his reasoning was, and agree with it, is another matter entirely.

But Assuming you choose not to kill him then he's alive to tell them and if not wouldn't his honor Guard just tell them the reason for the Attack i am sure they would want to know 

[Foolsfolly]

Icy Magebane wrote...

I didn't kill the Arishok... IMO he owes me big time when the mage/templar war kicks off.

Remember that dwarf that thought the Arishok would owe him if he killed (or paid someone to kill) all the Tal-Valshoth?

Yeah, unless the Arishok tells you something, he has no need for you or your self imposed delusions of him oweing you something.

Qunari are simple, elegant, and brutal creatures.

[Esbatty]

I get the feeling the Arishok leads by example and leads from the front lines, so he is directly coordinating the efforts, so I'm pretty sure he is solely responsible for his decisions since his men are to follow his orders and his orders alone in the field.

I mean if he wasn't I'm sure he would've pulled some kinda "I'm the Boss and therefore important" d*ck move and made Hawke fight Qunari-Starscream.

[Deadlysyns]

Just saying The Qunari have huge Potential and i would like to see a DA that uses them to their fullest Extent

[Pileyourbodies]

Foolsfolly wrote...

Llomerryn Accord?

....time load a completed character to look through the codex...

Thats the treaty that gives the Qunari Soheron and ended the war with everyone but the Tevinters...I think.

[Apollo Starflare]

Not to mention that talking to Fenris about the Qunari and Tevinter war strongly hints that the Qunari are just waiting for the right time to strike. I'm sure there is a greater plan in motion behind the scenes there, strict followers of the Qun or no. They wouldn't risk potentially years of build up just because the Arishok got carried away in Kirkwall.

[Icy Magebane]

@Foolsfolly - Damnit, that's true... guess we're on our own then... lol.

Deadlysyns wrote...

Just saying The Qunari have huge Potential and i would like to see a DA that uses them to their fullest Extent

I would be shocked if Bioware doesn't use them in one way or another.  There's too much mystery and build-up surrounding this group to be forever on the fringes of the situation in Thedas.  They'll show up in force eventually.  I suspect they are going to come in once the human lands are devastated by war and everyone thinks the worst is over.

Modifié par Icy Magebane, 19 mars 2011 - 05:46 .

[The Big Nothing]

I love fantasy politics--so much better than real politics.

[Malja]

Pileyourbodies wrote...

Foolsfolly wrote...

Llomerryn Accord?

....time load a completed character to look through the codex...

Thats the treaty that gives the Qunari Soheron and ended the war with everyone but the Tevinters...I think.

Yep, everyone except the Tevinters.

[Deadlysyns]

Apollo Starflare wrote...

Not to mention that talking to Fenris about the Qunari and Tevinter war strongly hints that the Qunari are just waiting for the right time to strike. I'm sure there is a greater plan in motion behind the scenes there, strict followers of the Qun or no. They wouldn't risk potentially years of build up just because the Arishok got carried away in Kirkwall.

You can think of a better time to strike then when the Free marches are in turmoil

[Foolsfolly]

The Big Nothing wrote...

I love fantasy politics--so much better than real politics.

That's because real politics gets ugly; fantasy politics gets exciting.

[Nialos]

@Deadly: After the war between Mages and Templars has reached a conclusion, when supplies and troops are at their lowest.

Modifié par Nialos, 19 mars 2011 - 05:47 .