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arishok isn't there leader

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Gabey5 wrote...

arishok isn't there leader

David said he was one of their leaders he was the leader in Kirkwall and one of a Few leaders 

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Deadlysyns wrote...

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Not to mention that talking to Fenris about the Qunari and Tevinter war strongly hints that the Qunari are just waiting for the right time to strike. I'm sure there is a greater plan in motion behind the scenes there, strict followers of the Qun or no. They wouldn't risk potentially years of build up just because the Arishok got carried away in Kirkwall.

You can think of a better time to strike then when the Free marches are in turmoil


Er, how about when the nations that are an actual threat are in turmoil? The Free Marches are a collection of city states, Kirkwall's biggest military force was the Templars (who are controlled by the Chantry out of Orlais, not Kirkwall). As I said I'm pretty sure if the Qunari have an overiding plan (and it seems that way) that it would involve big powerful nations such as Orlais being in trouble. I can see them striking during or after the civil war should it be depicted in Dragon Age 3. 

Thedas' main power comes from the combined might of the Chantry and it's Mages anyway. That is obvious from many in universe documents. The Qunari were only fought off before by almost every nation of Thedas joining forces, and the mass use of magic to counteract their gunpowder. As of the end of DA2 Thedas has neither of those options.

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Apollo Starflare wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...

Apollo Starflare wrote...

Not to mention that talking to Fenris about the Qunari and Tevinter war strongly hints that the Qunari are just waiting for the right time to strike. I'm sure there is a greater plan in motion behind the scenes there, strict followers of the Qun or no. They wouldn't risk potentially years of build up just because the Arishok got carried away in Kirkwall.

You can think of a better time to strike then when the Free marches are in turmoil


Er, how about when the nations that are an actual threat are in turmoil? The Free Marches are a collection of city states, Kirkwall's biggest military force was the Templars (who are controlled by the Chantry out of Orlais, not Kirkwall). As I said I'm pretty sure if the Qunari have an overiding plan (and it seems that way) that it would involve big powerful nations such as Orlais being in trouble. I can see them striking during or after the civil war should it be depicted in Dragon Age 3. 

Thedas' main power comes from the combined might of the Chantry and it's Mages anyway. That is obvious from many in universe documents. The Qunari were only fought off before by almost every nation of Thedas joining forces, and the mass use of magic to counteract their gunpowder. As of the end of DA2 Thedas has neither of those options.

But this is Assuming they are angry at the Marchers for the Treatment of their Arishok

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If you killed the Arishok, it was after he challenged you to a duel to the death. The champion accepted the challenge and won. When news returned of this, the true Qunari leadership would see Hawk as being in the right as he obviously proved the better. He won fair and square, They would diminish themselves to betray both that pact and the honor of that Arishok by going to war over it.

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Beren082 wrote...

If you killed the Arishok, it was after he challenged you to a duel to the death. The champion accepted the challenge and won. When news returned of this, the true Qunari leadership would see Hawk as being in the right as he obviously proved the better. He won fair and square, They would diminish themselves to betray both that pact and the honor of that Arishok by going to war over it.

And yet that Arishok said we will return that Duel was only for Isabella 

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He was the "villain" and he was going to die. Of course he said that. And it's not like the Qunari are going to remain content with Par Vollen. They will invade, but not over this.

It was a duel for honor. Hawk was honor bound to protect his teammate (or lover if you played like me), and the Arishok was honor bound to imprison the thief, and bring the person who caused that whole debacle in the first place to justice. If your character was not so bound, then there was no reason to fight the Arishok, and everyone (except Isabella, the Viscount, and the people killed during the battle) came away unharmed. Otherwise, the Qunari would understand that there was no other way, and the justified party would only be revealed through single combat. According to the Qunari, both were right, but only the more powerful one could win. This time, it was Hawke, and if anything, they will respect him for that.

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Beren082 wrote...

He was the "villain" and he was going to die. Of course he said that. And it's not like the Qunari are going to remain content with Par Vollen. They will invade, but not over this.

It was a duel for honor. Hawk was honor bound to protect his teammate (or lover if you played like me), and the Arishok was honor bound to imprison the thief, and bring the person who caused that whole debacle in the first place to justice. If your character was not so bound, then there was no reason to fight the Arishok, and everyone (except Isabella, the Viscount, and the people killed during the battle) came away unharmed. Otherwise, the Qunari would understand that there was no other way, and the justified party would only be revealed through single combat. According to the Qunari, both were right, but only the more powerful one could win. This time, it was Hawke, and if anything, they will respect him for that.

i believe if nothing else there will be a war because of Petrice's actions 

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Deadlysyns wrote...

 i believe if nothing else there will be a war because of Petrice's actions 


there will be war because the Qunari want war. They don't need a reason to do so beyond "these people are weak, under our rule, they will be strong."

One overzealous chantry sister is benieth their notice. Remember all the references to Qunari culture acting as a single organism? This would also be how they see other nations. you can't be offended by someone's fingernail, why should they be offended by a single person? Remember how difficult it was to get Sten to see you as a person in and of yourself in DA:O? It's because when he spokt to you, in his mind, he wasn't talking to one person, he was talking to the Gray Wardens as a whole. He couldn't understand how you couldn't live and breath that title.

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David Gaider wrote...

Just a note: the Arishok is not the Qunari leader but *a* Qunari leader. They are ruled by a triumvirate. It's probably also worth noting that the Arishok broke the Llomerryn Accord through his attack.


Really? What does this Accord say? Now I'm curious. I think the qunari are fascinating.

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I thought the Qunari didn't care much about the Llomerryn accord anyway?  I'd guess they'll attack when they think they'll win.

Beren082 wrote...

If you killed the Arishok, it was after he challenged you to a duel to the death. The champion accepted the challenge and won.


Not necessarily.  I didn't have a duel, just a big fight.

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3 way wars usually become 1 on 1 wars. Very very few wars have been fought with 3 combatants i'm having a hard time thinking of it. Usually only 2 sides exist.


Pretty much this. It's more logical to take out a common enemy rather than tear apart each other. That comes later.

Well Qunari hate uncollared Sarabas perhaps the Templars can Entice them to join their side with a Tea party 

Will ther be cake or cookies as well?

Perhaps i don't know but the Qunari Certainly hate uncollared Sarabas more then the Templars do 

Well cake and cookies are the selling point for the Qunari. After all, all that was in that book that Isabela stole was Cake and Cookie recipes Sten brought back from Ferelden.Posted Image

Now you got me wondering what was in the book that was soo Damn important that everyone wanted it 

Posted ImagePosted Imageoh, it's just a book writen by the founder of the Qun.

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The qunarri have respected the Llomerryn Accord since its signing. Its the people of thedas that are quite nervious about them. Understandable, Qunari are hard to understand if you don't understand the Qun.

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Pileyourbodies wrote...

It wouldn't be a Triumvirate if there were dozens of each.


Is there only one mayor in the world? the united states? your state? what about governors? presidents? judges?

Who's to say there can't be triumvirates in each region teh qunari control?