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 So I was talking to the bartender in the Hanged Man and he said something about the Divine going to die soon and she needed to appoint someone as a successor, who else other than her left hand? I think they could pull this off pretty well, it`d certainly be cool to see how far Leliana went from meeting her in that tavern in Lothering.

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Leliana has been doing all the bad things the devine needs done but can't do her self because it'd spoil her good name. The right hand is the successor the left hand is the enforcer.

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I hope the successor is someone who played a part in the Story line somewhere

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Why? The divine hasn't played a part in the storyline. Leliana is the only companion thats in the circle.

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I don't see Leliana being the Divine... at all. It just doesn't suit her, IMO. She makes a great left hand though.

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Pileyourbodies wrote...

Why? The divine hasn't played a part in the storyline. Leliana is the only companion thats in the circle.

Because The Divine is going to play the biggest role in DA since The Hero 

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I don't think Leliana will be the Divine, too much of a dirty past, but hey, there is no media in Dragon Age right?

I really wish Mother Petrice wasn't killed off... She would have made a wonderful villain if she eventually became Grand Cleric in DA2, and then imagine if she became the Divine. *sigh,* why oh why did you have to anticlimactically kill off the one character I actually vehemently hated. Why could I not be the one to rip the life from her zealous throat?

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Harcken wrote...

I really wish Mother Petrice wasn't killed off... She would have made a wonderful villain if she eventually became Grand Cleric in DA2, and then imagine if she became the Divine. *sigh,* why oh why did you have to anticlimactically kill off the one character I actually vehemently hated. Why could I not be the one to rip the life from her zealous throat?


I can`t imagine her becoming the Divine, the only people who supported her were radicals.

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yogolol wrote...

Harcken wrote...

I really wish Mother Petrice wasn't killed off... She would have made a wonderful villain if she eventually became Grand Cleric in DA2, and then imagine if she became the Divine. *sigh,* why oh why did you have to anticlimactically kill off the one character I actually vehemently hated. Why could I not be the one to rip the life from her zealous throat?


I can`t imagine her becoming the Divine, the only people who supported her were radicals.

you never know she was resourceful

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yogolol wrote...

 So I was talking to the bartender in the Hanged Man and he said something about the Divine going to die soon and she needed to appoint someone as a successor, who else other than her left hand? I think they could pull this off pretty well, it`d certainly be cool to see how far Leliana went from meeting her in that tavern in Lothering.


That was prior to 9:34 Dragon where a new divine was appointed, Revered Mother Dorethea was the new divine and thats when Leliana became her right hand, because of their past.

Justina V (The name Dorothea took up)  isn't likely to die soon.. they were talking about her predecessor

Also Im pretty sure only Revered mothers can become divines.. The Seeker order is out of the question, thats like appointing a Templar Knight Commander as divine. So No, Leliana will never become a divine unless she rejoins the sisterhood and raises through the ranks there

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XxDeonxX wrote...

yogolol wrote...

 So I was talking to the bartender in the Hanged Man and he said something about the Divine going to die soon and she needed to appoint someone as a successor, who else other than her left hand? I think they could pull this off pretty well, it`d certainly be cool to see how far Leliana went from meeting her in that tavern in Lothering.


That was prior to 9:34 Dragon where a new divine was appointed, Revered Mother Dorethea was the new divine and thats when Leliana became her right hand, because of their past.

Justina V (The name Dorothea took up)  isn't likely to die soon.. they were talking about her predecessor

Also Im pretty sure only Revered mothers can become divines.. The Seeker order is out of the question, thats like appointing a Templar Knight Commander as divine. So No, Leliana will never become a divine unless she rejoins the sisterhood and raises through the ranks there


Wouldn't it be shocker if the Divine was a mage?    That's what I began to think about the Grand Cleric Elthina, especially when she continually refused to take sides.  She even refuses to leave after she gets a warning from the Divine. 

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Halo Quea wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

yogolol wrote...

 So I was talking to the bartender in the Hanged Man and he said something about the Divine going to die soon and she needed to appoint someone as a successor, who else other than her left hand? I think they could pull this off pretty well, it`d certainly be cool to see how far Leliana went from meeting her in that tavern in Lothering.


That was prior to 9:34 Dragon where a new divine was appointed, Revered Mother Dorethea was the new divine and thats when Leliana became her right hand, because of their past.

Justina V (The name Dorothea took up)  isn't likely to die soon.. they were talking about her predecessor

Also Im pretty sure only Revered mothers can become divines.. The Seeker order is out of the question, thats like appointing a Templar Knight Commander as divine. So No, Leliana will never become a divine unless she rejoins the sisterhood and raises through the ranks there


Wouldn't it be shocker if the Divine was a mage?    That's what I began to think about the Grand Cleric Elthina, especially when she continually refused to take sides.  She even refuses to leave after she gets a warning from the Divine. 

I think the third DA will have the Divine be Assainated by Mage supporters to further their goal 

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I think the whole royal lesbian consort may look bad on her resume in my universe ^_^ 

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Deadlysyns wrote...

Halo Quea wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

yogolol wrote...

 So I was talking to the bartender in the Hanged Man and he said something about the Divine going to die soon and she needed to appoint someone as a successor, who else other than her left hand? I think they could pull this off pretty well, it`d certainly be cool to see how far Leliana went from meeting her in that tavern in Lothering.


That was prior to 9:34 Dragon where a new divine was appointed, Revered Mother Dorethea was the new divine and thats when Leliana became her right hand, because of their past.

Justina V (The name Dorothea took up)  isn't likely to die soon.. they were talking about her predecessor

Also Im pretty sure only Revered mothers can become divines.. The Seeker order is out of the question, thats like appointing a Templar Knight Commander as divine. So No, Leliana will never become a divine unless she rejoins the sisterhood and raises through the ranks there


Wouldn't it be shocker if the Divine was a mage?    That's what I began to think about the Grand Cleric Elthina, especially when she continually refused to take sides.  She even refuses to leave after she gets a warning from the Divine. 

I think the third DA will have the Divine be Assainated by Mage supporters to further their goal 


If that happens Thedas or at least the Free Marches will be turned completely upside down. Not that it would take much to turn the Free Marches on it's head anyway.    But with no chance of there ever being a peaceful resolution. One side will have to commit genocide on the other in order to bring it all to an end.   We're talking about a massacre on a scale that would be worse than any Blight. 

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Halo Quea wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...

Halo Quea wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

yogolol wrote...

 So I was talking to the bartender in the Hanged Man and he said something about the Divine going to die soon and she needed to appoint someone as a successor, who else other than her left hand? I think they could pull this off pretty well, it`d certainly be cool to see how far Leliana went from meeting her in that tavern in Lothering.


That was prior to 9:34 Dragon where a new divine was appointed, Revered Mother Dorethea was the new divine and thats when Leliana became her right hand, because of their past.

Justina V (The name Dorothea took up)  isn't likely to die soon.. they were talking about her predecessor

Also Im pretty sure only Revered mothers can become divines.. The Seeker order is out of the question, thats like appointing a Templar Knight Commander as divine. So No, Leliana will never become a divine unless she rejoins the sisterhood and raises through the ranks there


Wouldn't it be shocker if the Divine was a mage?    That's what I began to think about the Grand Cleric Elthina, especially when she continually refused to take sides.  She even refuses to leave after she gets a warning from the Divine. 

I think the third DA will have the Divine be Assainated by Mage supporters to further their goal 


If that happens Thedas or at least the Free Marches will be turned completely upside down. Not that it would take much to turn the Free Marches on it's head anyway.    But with no chance of there ever being a peaceful resolution. One side will have to commit genocide on the other in order to bring it all to an end.   We're talking about a massacre on a scale that would be worse than any Blight. 

yes but then Sandals little Prophecy could come into Play 

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Deadlysyns wrote...

Halo Quea wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...

Halo Quea wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

yogolol wrote...

 So I was talking to the bartender in the Hanged Man and he said something about the Divine going to die soon and she needed to appoint someone as a successor, who else other than her left hand? I think they could pull this off pretty well, it`d certainly be cool to see how far Leliana went from meeting her in that tavern in Lothering.


That was prior to 9:34 Dragon where a new divine was appointed, Revered Mother Dorethea was the new divine and thats when Leliana became her right hand, because of their past.

Justina V (The name Dorothea took up)  isn't likely to die soon.. they were talking about her predecessor

Also Im pretty sure only Revered mothers can become divines.. The Seeker order is out of the question, thats like appointing a Templar Knight Commander as divine. So No, Leliana will never become a divine unless she rejoins the sisterhood and raises through the ranks there


Wouldn't it be shocker if the Divine was a mage?    That's what I began to think about the Grand Cleric Elthina, especially when she continually refused to take sides.  She even refuses to leave after she gets a warning from the Divine. 

I think the third DA will have the Divine be Assainated by Mage supporters to further their goal 


If that happens Thedas or at least the Free Marches will be turned completely upside down. Not that it would take much to turn the Free Marches on it's head anyway.    But with no chance of there ever being a peaceful resolution. One side will have to commit genocide on the other in order to bring it all to an end.   We're talking about a massacre on a scale that would be worse than any Blight. 

yes but then Sandals little Prophecy could come into Play 


True, but then that would make Dragon Age 3 pretty much a paint by numbers story.    I've already had enough of the "all paths lead to the same road" narrative that we were forced to accept in DA2.    Sandal's Prophesy is  a clear reference to Morrigan's son and a marked road as far as I'm concerned.  

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QUOTE PYRAMID!

*cough*

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SmokeyTheBear wrote...

QUOTE PYRAMID!

*cough*

don't go to Flemeth Capturing heroes then :P

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I can't see Leliana ever being the Divine...much less her even wanting the position. Or others wanting her for the position. Left hand of the divine seems like it suits her much more in that regard, and where she would be the most useful.

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jfp2004 wrote...

I can't see Leliana ever being the Divine...much less her even wanting the position. Or others wanting her for the position. Left hand of the divine seems like it suits her much more in that regard, and where she would be the most useful.

i see her leaving the Chantry all together and becoming the hero of DA3

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Deadlysyns wrote...

jfp2004 wrote...

I can't see Leliana ever being the Divine...much less her even wanting the position. Or others wanting her for the position. Left hand of the divine seems like it suits her much more in that regard, and where she would be the most useful.

i see her leaving the Chantry all together and becoming the hero of DA3


I see her becoming a significant influence in the upcoming game, but I don't think she'll even be a member of our party. 

But I did think more on what you said about Sandal's prophesy and I saw even more difficulty. 

Number One- The Chantry is NEVER going to accept the Half God-Half Arch Demon child born from an apostate witch as some kind of messiah.   So "when he rises" he's most likely going to be at war with the Divine, not allying with her in anyway.     Not a good future if the Divine were going to be Leliana.

Number Two-
  Prophesy is a tricky thing.  What Sandal is saying is very abstract, it can point towards a bright future or even darker one.    It's sort of funny seeing Sandal in the role of a Herald (like John the Baptist for example) but it's clear that's what he is. 

"One day the magic will come back, all of it.  Everyone will be just like they were.  The shadows will part and the skies will open wide.  When he rises, everyone will see" 

Some have taken this to mean that everyone will become magical beings, but that's just too easy.  Especially to be a prophesy.   Sandal is not necessarily saying that things will change for the better.  He's just perhaps stating that people will be more enlightened about magic, less ignorant and less fearful.    It doesn't even mean that "the one who rises" is going to even be a good person,  just that everyone will "see"    A kind of reference to spiritual or magical blindness being lifted. 

I look at Sandal's prophesy and I see nothing but trouble.  

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leliana has way too much blood on her hands to get there

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The new Divine is the Reverend Mother from Leliana's Song. The previous Divine dies after Act1, and Dorothea(?) replaces her as Justinia V(Or was it IV?). This is why Leliana is "the right hand of the Divine" in Sebastian's side quest.