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[RainyDayLover]

Even though I fixed the bug using a modding tool, thought I should let you know that last night...I reloaded a save before my Hawke and Isabella were friends. And then after my Hawke befriended and slept with her, I checked my abilities screen and I had the Thumbs-up ability on there! Which is kinda ridiculous 'cuz I never even used her in my party after we were friends.

[BloodyRaw]

RainyDayLover wrote...

Even though I fixed the bug using a modding tool, thought I should let you know that last night...I reloaded a save before my Hawke and Isabella were friends. And then after my Hawke befriended and slept with her, I checked my abilities screen and I had the Thumbs-up ability on there! Which is kinda ridiculous 'cuz I never even used her in my party after we were friends.

 Bingo, a gentleman sent me a message with almost the same senario. Were you in Hawkes house when you checked the abilites screen? I think the game automatically puts here in you're party after you romance here at hawkes estate. If this is the case, not saving/reloading while at hawkes estate after the romance should avoid the trigger.

  When I get the chance I could test this but if you want to, you could save me the trouble and see if my theory is correct since you have a save after Act 1 but prior to the start of Isabella's quest (ongoing search) leading to friendship/romance.

[We Tigers]

BloodyRaw wrote...

We Tigers wrote...

I'm still glitched after receiving her friendship (and the thumbs up), despite not putting her in the party once since I received it. There's something else to the bug, and I haven't been able to figure it out after trying scenarios for 2 hours or so. Oh well; time to kick Varric to the curb for a while, I guess, so I can properly save my game.

 I don't know how this can occur to be honest. If you are in a mission/quest and recieve her friendship bonus during it, and save/reload you will encounter the bug. You have been trying different scenarios for 2 hours (isnt it a freaking waste of time), but before trying the scenarios was isabella befriended already?

 If you have time please post the steps that you did here, and try not to leave anything out. We will resolve the problem.

Turns out this was as simple as the solution Hague provided:

Also, you'll get the bug from the "Beliefs" missions. The game adds and
then removes those characters from your party at the beginning and end
of those quests. To avoid this, add the characters (Sebastian or
Isabela) to your party, do the mission and then remove them before
saving. If the game forces them out of your party it screws it up.
Having them in your current party prevents it from adding them.

Everything's good now, and she's staying on the bench.

[BloodyRaw]

We Tigers wrote...

BloodyRaw wrote...

We Tigers wrote...

I'm still glitched after receiving her friendship (and the thumbs up), despite not putting her in the party once since I received it. There's something else to the bug, and I haven't been able to figure it out after trying scenarios for 2 hours or so. Oh well; time to kick Varric to the curb for a while, I guess, so I can properly save my game.

 I don't know how this can occur to be honest. If you are in a mission/quest and recieve her friendship bonus during it, and save/reload you will encounter the bug. You have been trying different scenarios for 2 hours (isnt it a freaking waste of time), but before trying the scenarios was isabella befriended already?

 If you have time please post the steps that you did here, and try not to leave anything out. We will resolve the problem.

Turns out this was as simple as the solution Hague provided:

Also, you'll get the bug from the "Beliefs" missions. The game adds and
then removes those characters from your party at the beginning and end
of those quests. To avoid this, add the characters (Sebastian or
Isabela) to your party, do the mission and then remove them before
saving. If the game forces them out of your party it screws it up.
Having them in your current party prevents it from adding them.

Everything's good now, and she's staying on the bench.

 Glad you are good to go tigers, I'm glad you can continue to enjoy the game. Have a good weekend 

[RainyDayLover]

BloodyRaw wrote...

RainyDayLover wrote...

Even though I fixed the bug using a modding tool, thought I should let you know that last night...I reloaded a save before my Hawke and Isabella were friends. And then after my Hawke befriended and slept with her, I checked my abilities screen and I had the Thumbs-up ability on there! Which is kinda ridiculous 'cuz I never even used her in my party after we were friends.

 Bingo, a gentleman sent me a message with almost the same senario. Were you in Hawkes house when you checked the abilites screen? I think the game automatically puts here in you're party after you romance here at hawkes estate. If this is the case, not saving/reloading while at hawkes estate after the romance should avoid the trigger.

  When I get the chance I could test this but if you want to, you could save me the trouble and see if my theory is correct since you have a save after Act 1 but prior to the start of Isabella's quest (ongoing search) leading to friendship/romance.

Yes, I was at the house. But, it turns out that....if you leave your home right after the romance scene, the Thumbs-up ability goes away. I actually tested this with the modding tool.

I imported the save into the modding application to check the attack speed modifier right after the romance scene (while I was in the estate)....and it had a +5 increase (which is expected). Then I left the house, and saved again just outside the house during day (had no one else in my party), imported that save into the application and the speed modifier was back to 0. So I'm guessing you can avoid the bug after exiting the house right after the romance scene.

[Zhijn]

Strange im not being effected by this by this slow attack bug. I mean, i have the thumbs up with her in my party and i quicksave and reload rather often with her all sorts of places to see various result of something something. Lucky me?.

Even reloaded twice against that big bad guy (without spoiling anything!) where she had run off.

Altho i do get the thumbs up icon showing if shes forced out of the party (hawks house aswell on load), and without taking any chances i usually just fix that by going to the hanged man, reinserting her then removing her myself.

Modifié par Zhijn, 26 mars 2011 - 03:39 .

[BloodyRaw]

Zhijn wrote...

Strange im not being effected by this by this slow attack bug. I mean, i have the thumbs up with her in my party and i quicksave and reload rather often with her all sorts of places to see various result of something something. Lucky me?.

Even reloaded twice against that big bad guy (without spoiling anything!) where she had run off.

Altho i do get the thumbs up icon showing if shes forced out of the party (hawks house aswell on load), and without taking any chances i usually just fix that by going to the hanged man, reinserting her then removing her myself.

 You have the bug but if you never take her out you're party you have nothing to worry about.

[Zhijn]

Yeah i thought as much, altho that sebastian fellow has just befriended me. I wonder how that will turn out. Gues ill find out tomorrow! xD.

[OlG-fr]

The end of Act1 and trip to the Deep Roads triggered the bug for me, while I was free of it. Since i had Isabella in my party when you get the chance to change your party before leaving and because I didn't pick her for the trip, I thought this swap was causing the glitch.

So I reloaded an anterior save, made a safe party inside Merrill's house without Isabella saved, reloaded fine and then headed to the trip.

But still, once I was in the Deep Roads and reloaded in the Deep Roads (Without Isabella in my party) thumbs up was there.
I used the the savegame editor and once in Act2 was able to clear up thumbs up.

After that everythings worked fine but I suspect I'll get the same crap once I get toward Act3.

Modifié par OlG-fr, 26 mars 2011 - 10:37 .

[D.Shepard]

BloodyRaw wrote...

 No problem gentlemen, thanks for the "thumbs up" lol. More info

The bug will START Occuring by having isabella in your party and then saving in a mission, hawks resdience, Kirkwall at night or outside the city (sundermount wounded coast) and then "RELOADING" that specific save then you will get the thumbs up bug every time you load "any" save with her "not" in the party until the end of time.
   

Thank You for the info. So if the bug generated but we keep Isabela in our party we shouldn't experience troubles... Since I tend to have her constantly in my party, especially due to dialogue interactions and plot reasons, this solution can be very appreciated.
I should only avoid to save and load inside Hawke's residence but I can still save before entering it.

[hero 2]

Is anybody here capable of writing an addon to stop this happening? It would earn you instant repute!

[BloodyRaw]

OlG-fr wrote...

The end of Act1 and trip to the Deep Roads triggered the bug for me, while I was free of it. Since i had Isabella in my party when you get the chance to change your party before leaving and because I didn't pick her for the trip, I thought this swap was causing the glitch.

So I reloaded an anterior save, made a safe party inside Merrill's house without Isabella saved, reloaded fine and then headed to the trip.

But still, once I was in the Deep Roads and reloaded in the Deep Roads (Without Isabella in my party) thumbs up was there.
I used the the savegame editor and once in Act2 was able to clear up thumbs up.

After that everythings worked fine but I suspect I'll get the same crap once I get toward Act3.

 Wow Crazy. I never reloaded in the deep roads after my first play through lol. Nice find

[BloodyRaw]

D.Shepard wrote...

BloodyRaw wrote...

 No problem gentlemen, thanks for the "thumbs up" lol. More info

The bug will START Occuring by having isabella in your party and then saving in a mission, hawks resdience, Kirkwall at night or outside the city (sundermount wounded coast) and then "RELOADING" that specific save then you will get the thumbs up bug every time you load "any" save with her "not" in the party until the end of time.
   

Thank You for the info. So if the bug generated but we keep Isabela in our party we shouldn't experience troubles... Since I tend to have her constantly in my party, especially due to dialogue interactions and plot reasons, this solution can be very appreciated.
I should only avoid to save and load inside Hawke's residence but I can still save before entering it.

 Yes Shep, If you enjoy having her in you're party then you have nothing to worry about

[Sheogorath27]

You rock Bloodyraw, to bad its already to late for my mage. Have to start over now.

[BloodyRaw]

Sheogorath27 wrote...

You rock Bloodyraw, to bad its already to late for my mage. Have to start over now.

 Thanks, yeah I love this game but way to many bugs. Sorry about you're mage.

[Agent_Dark_]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
2. After you make you're choice...
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
To answer you're other question
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
whoever is in you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
The next time you switch out you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
If Isabella is ever forced out of you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
The game still "has" her in you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
if you never take her out of your party
[/quote]
LOL WUT??  But the next sentence in the same post...

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
If you leave her in you're party
[/quote]
D:

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
with her in you're party.
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
forced out of you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
while she is in you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
automatically puts here in you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
if you never take her out you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
enjoy having her in you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
Sorry about you're mage.
[/quote]

http://www.youryoure.com/

Really all I got out of this thread lol

[BloodyRaw]

[quote]Agent_Dark_ wrote...

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
2. After you make you're choice...
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
To answer you're other question
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
whoever is in you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
The next time you switch out you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
If Isabella is ever forced out of you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
The game still "has" her in you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
if you never take her out of your party
[/quote]
LOL WUT??  But the next sentence in the same post...

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
If you leave her in you're party
[/quote]
D:

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
with her in you're party.
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
forced out of you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
while she is in you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
automatically puts here in you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
if you never take her out you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
enjoy having her in you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
Sorry about you're mage.
[/quote]

http://www.youryoure.com/

Really all I got out of this thread lol
[/quote]

 You honestly posted this grammar police . I don't know how long it took you to post this, but instead of critizing me for helping others how about you help you're (give me a parking ticket) life by finding out how not to waste it. Spending a secound spell checking someone's grammar on an internet forum like a 2 dollar teacher is plain stupid. <_< Have a good night

[Ace Attorney]

[quote]Agent_Dark_ wrote...

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
2. After you make you're choice...
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
To answer you're other question
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
whoever is in you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
The next time you switch out you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
If Isabella is ever forced out of you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
The game still "has" her in you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
if you never take her out of your party
[/quote]
LOL WUT??  But the next sentence in the same post...

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
If you leave her in you're party
[/quote]
D:

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
with her in you're party.
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
forced out of you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
while she is in you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
automatically puts here in you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
if you never take her out you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
enjoy having her in you're party
[/quote]

[quote]BloodyRaw wrote...
Sorry about you're mage.
[/quote]

http://www.youryoure.com/

Really all I got out of this thread lol
[/quote]

Grammar **** spotted. Your (haha) hated as much are the original ****s. Buzz off and get on with you life.

[Agent_Dark_]

lol http://www.collegehu...7/grammar-nazis

[Feranel]

Agent, you could have, in all likelihood, merely pointed out to bloody that his improper word usage was distracting from his otherwise fairly helpful and informative post. These forums have personal messages for a reason, if you actually cared, you would have used it. Instead you chose to waste time and space in an attempt to look superior.

TL;DR You aren't concerned with helping, which isn't good or bad, just don't put on airs, if you please.

[Legbiter]

Thanks for making this guide.

[Ace Attorney]

Can you save with and/or remove Isabela/Sebastian on the Vicount's Keep and the Hanged Man (Day or Night) just like on Merrill's Home or Arder's Clinic?

[zeypher]

just so you guys know, for the pc there is a mod out on the nexus that prevents this bug, well it does it by changing isabela and sebastians friendly abilities with their rivalry ones, so you will not get the bug. here is the link
http://dragonagenexu...ile.php?id=2299

[GodLikeDevil]

Well, I was doing the quest the Magistrate's Orders with Isabella.I did not expect that one of the outcomes of that quest would give her a huge friendship boost, and so I realized it had already unlocked "thumbs-up" for her.

Good thing I knew about the way to prevent the trigger from happening. Without saving (save for what the game autosaves) I left the dungeon, talked to the guards to resolve the quest, went to the Hanged Man (I do not know whether it was day or night though) sounded the horn, swapped out Isabella, made sure to check the abilities section of the character sheet to confirm the bonus was no longer there, went to the gallows during the day without her in my party and then saved.

So far my cheating rogue has not shown any signs of slowing down after doing a few of the kill the gangs quests. I suspect if I was not able to avoid the bug I would have noticed significant decrease in speed, right? After all, the rogue (to me it seems) is the fastest of all classes when it comes to attacking, yeah?

[bunnies]

got the bug randomly, after being careful with isabela and all, never using her, having the romance scene prior to receiving thumbs up, and even after questioning beliefs in tavern she wasnt bugged. i checked every save and ran many quests after, but after cutscene at my house, when she confesses she stole the relic, i received the bug, and if its the way it works, there's really no way around it.
also, i wonder if her attacking you in fade triggers it, too...