Anyone played Hawke as a tyrant?
#1
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 06:23
#2
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:05
You always have to save Grace and her mages in act 1, you always have to help Emeric with his investigation, you cannot seize any power or title other than "champion" prior to the epilogue, you have to help hunt rogue mages, you can't knowingly help Anders with his magibomb. Really the worst thing you personally can do is off the occasional individual character with the murder knife.
Even choosing to fully support Meredith with the right of annulment leads you character to repeatedly remark that you are just trying to help Kirkwall and make the word a better place.
#3
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:06
you can become Viscount but u flee the city so thats worth about as much as a bag of rusty nailsMedet wrote...
I tried to. All the options have you come off more as rude or a tremendous ****** ***hat rather than any sort of proper villain :/
You always have to save Grace and her mages in act 1, you always have to help Emeric with his investigation, you cannot seize any power or title other than "champion" prior to the epilogue, you have to help hunt rogue mages, you can't knowingly help Anders with his magibomb. Really the worst thing you personally can do is off the occasional individual character with the murder knife.
Even choosing to fully support Meredith with the right of annulment leads you character to repeatedly remark that you are just trying to help Kirkwall and make the word a better place.
#4
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:07
Deadlysyns wrote...
you can become Viscount but u flee the city so thats worth about as much as a bag of rusty nails
You don't both become the Viscount and flee. Those're two seperate endings.
#5
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:08
oh really well i dunno i only found out recently how to do that soo yeah and i just can't get into the game again with the repeativnessMalja wrote...
Deadlysyns wrote...
you can become Viscount but u flee the city so thats worth about as much as a bag of rusty nails
You don't both become the Viscount and flee. Those're two seperate endings.
#6
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:09
But yes you can be viscount for the roughly 3 seconds between Varric saying you were viscount and Varric saying you zoom zoomed away. Not much tyranny to accomplish in that timeframe.
edit: and I gaurantee you leave Kirkwall even if you are viscount, I just beat the game for the 3rd time a few hours ago.
Modifié par Medet, 19 mars 2011 - 07:10 .
#7
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:09
There's also some really hilarious responses companions make about you being a huge jerk. (Take Anders with you when you go do the quest that Flemeth sent you on, and be aggressive to Merrill -- Anders' comment is priceless) But that's pretty much it.
#8
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:10
Deadlysyns wrote...
oh really well i dunno i only found out recently how to do that soo yeah and i just can't get into the game again with the repeativnessMalja wrote...
Deadlysyns wrote...
you can become Viscount but u flee the city so thats worth about as much as a bag of rusty nails
You don't both become the Viscount and flee. Those're two seperate endings.
Side with the templars: Kirkwall begs you to lead.
Side with the mages: You flee the city.
#9
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:13
but that still makes no Sense as the Seekers are looking for youMalja wrote...
Deadlysyns wrote...
oh really well i dunno i only found out recently how to do that soo yeah and i just can't get into the game again with the repeativnessMalja wrote...
Deadlysyns wrote...
you can become Viscount but u flee the city so thats worth about as much as a bag of rusty nails
You don't both become the Viscount and flee. Those're two seperate endings.
Side with the templars: Kirkwall begs you to lead.
Side with the mages: You flee the city.
#10
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:15
#11
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:15
Varric: "and they begged the champion to lead"
Seeker: "but the champion is no longer in kirkwall"
Varric "funny how quickly fortunes change"
#12
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:16
Deadlysyns wrote...
but that still makes no Sense as the Seekers are looking for you
You disappeared between the three years after the crowning and the telling of the story.
Modifié par Dave of Canada, 19 mars 2011 - 07:16 .
#13
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:16
oh lol so yeah it really doesn't matter you can't like actually become ViscountMedet wrote...
Paraphrasing
Varric: "and they begged the champion to lead"
Seeker: "but the champion is no longer in kirkwall"
Varric "funny how quickly fortunes change"
#14
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:17
yes well you dunno how you ruled in those three years lol you could of been a Tyrant but i doubt it and really 3 years of nothing but plot filler how sadDave of Canada wrote...
Deadlysyns wrote...
but that still makes no Sense as the Seekers are looking for you
You disappeared between the three years after the crowning and the telling of the story.
#15
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:17
Dave of Canada wrote...
Deadlysyns wrote...
but that still makes no Sense as the Seekers are looking for you
You disappeared between the three years after the crowning and the telling of the story.
This.
#16
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:18
He was so much better than PushoverHawke [GoodHawke]
And GrosslyInappropriateHawke[SarcasticHawke]
#17
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:19
Still a horrible 3rd act and three years of guessing thats horribleMalja wrote...
Dave of Canada wrote...
Deadlysyns wrote...
but that still makes no Sense as the Seekers are looking for you
You disappeared between the three years after the crowning and the telling of the story.
This.
#18
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:22
Deadlysyns wrote...
Still a horrible 3rd act and three years of guessing thats horrible
Three unknown years with free reign for RPing.
#19
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:23
Thats all fine and Dandy but i would like too know what occured for certainMalja wrote...
Deadlysyns wrote...
Still a horrible 3rd act and three years of guessing thats horrible
Three unknown years with free reign for RPing.
#20
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:27
Deadlysyns wrote...
Thats all fine and Dandy but i would like too know what occured for certainMalja wrote...
Deadlysyns wrote...
Still a horrible 3rd act and three years of guessing thats horrible
Three unknown years with free reign for RPing.
Is an educated guess not sufficient?
#21
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:29
Not Really why would Hawke leave if they made him Viscount it doesn't make Sense they need to fill it inMalja wrote...
Deadlysyns wrote...
Thats all fine and Dandy but i would like too know what occured for certainMalja wrote...
Deadlysyns wrote...
Still a horrible 3rd act and three years of guessing thats horrible
Three unknown years with free reign for RPing.
Is an educated guess not sufficient?
#22
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:32
Deadlysyns wrote...
Not Really why would Hawke leave if they made him Viscount it doesn't make Sense they need to fill it inMalja wrote...
Deadlysyns wrote...
Thats all fine and Dandy but i would like too know what occured for certainMalja wrote...
Deadlysyns wrote...
Still a horrible 3rd act and three years of guessing thats horrible
Three unknown years with free reign for RPing.
Is an educated guess not sufficient?
I take it you didn't like the Warden disappearing either.
#23
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:36
Medet wrote...
I tried to. All the options have you come off more as rude or a tremendous ****** ***hat rather than any sort of proper villain :/
You always have to save Grace and her mages in act 1, you always have to help Emeric with his investigation, you cannot seize any power or title other than "champion" prior to the epilogue, you have to help hunt rogue mages, you can't knowingly help Anders with his magibomb. Really the worst thing you personally can do is off the occasional individual character with the murder knife.
Even choosing to fully support Meredith with the right of annulment leads you character to repeatedly remark that you are just trying to help Kirkwall and make the word a better place.
Yeah, this is what I was afraid of.
My first playthrough, I played the typical Good-guy role, usually choosing the Helpful/Diplomatic dialogue options, with the occasional Charming/Sarcastic option with companions like Varric and Isabela; this was mainly because I was trying to get friendships up as much as possible in the most direct way I knew how, and I was romancing Isabela.
As I began considering my second playthrough, I felt slightly compelled to take a more "human" approach--considering all the crap (people trying to kill/deceive him constantly, family tragedy, working as a merc, etc) that Hawke goes through, it seems reasonable to me that the he'd become rather... aggressive. But as I considered this approach, it occurred to me that there might not be much facilitation game-mechanics-wise for a more ruthless, callous type of Hawke. And you're right... you're not so much ruthless and callous as you are just a jerk, lol.
That's kind of unfortunate. I don't really want to play a pansy Hawke again D: Sarcastic/Charming Hawke is good for some laughs as far as I can tell. I thought perhaps I could make a mix of Sarcastic/Charming and Direct/Aggressive Hawke work, but according to the guide, your responses don't blend to form your personality, they stack respectively; so I'm not sure if that's really possible--as one way or another you'd end up being either Sarcastic/Charming or Direct/Aggressive--there's apparently no middle-ground.
#24
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:40
Deylar wrote...
I like AngryHawke.
He was so much better than PushoverHawke [GoodHawke]
And GrosslyInappropriateHawke[SarcasticHawke]
but how can you beat grossly inappropriate hawke
#25
Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:43
you can't Hawkes hiding all his Pain with Sarcasmlyssalu wrote...
Deylar wrote...
I like AngryHawke.
He was so much better than PushoverHawke [GoodHawke]
And GrosslyInappropriateHawke[SarcasticHawke]
but how can you beat grossly inappropriate hawke





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