Okay this has probably already been done if so forgive me i was just interested in finding out what peoples thoughts were the Relic is obviously important but whats in the book ?
The Relic
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Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:06
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The one Isabela stole for Castillon? It's a book by the Qunari philosopher. Imagine if someone stole the original copy of the Bible, Koran, Talmud, or Veda. It's on par with that in severity. It's never said what Koslun wrote. It's just a holy book written in a Heathen Language for Heathens as far as anyone beyond the Qunari are concerned!
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Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:07
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Philsophers are not the Same as Zealots or Holy men they look at the practical point like Aristotle so something in the book might prove the maker is not RealSilveryne wrote...
The one Isabela stole for Castillon? It's a book by the Qunari philosopher. Imagine if someone stole the original copy of the Bible, Koran, Talmud, or Veda. It's on par with that in severity. It's never said what Koslun wrote. It's just a holy book written in a Heathen Language for Heathens as far as anyone beyond the Qunari are concerned!
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Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:15
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Philosophers have often been zealots and holy men. 
St. Augustine was a real life philosopher. St. Thomas Aquinas was a real life philosopher. And Francisco de Vitoria was a religious man and a philosopher! His Christian Just War theory is still considered to this day, and seems like it was vaguely referenced in some dealings with the Arishok, actually. Philosophy and religion have historically gone hand in hand until roughly the Baroque and the Enlightenment. :3
If you want to go the Greek Route, in Plato's Apology, Socrates claims that he has been told by intermediaries from the Gods ("daemons") to question the actions of the people in the city.
St. Augustine was a real life philosopher. St. Thomas Aquinas was a real life philosopher. And Francisco de Vitoria was a religious man and a philosopher! His Christian Just War theory is still considered to this day, and seems like it was vaguely referenced in some dealings with the Arishok, actually. Philosophy and religion have historically gone hand in hand until roughly the Baroque and the Enlightenment. :3If you want to go the Greek Route, in Plato's Apology, Socrates claims that he has been told by intermediaries from the Gods ("daemons") to question the actions of the people in the city.
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Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:21
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I am just saying we don't know what the Book actually is your opinion may be right but it might not beSilveryne wrote...
Philosophers have often been zealots and holy men.
If you want to go the Greek Route, in Plato's Apology, Socrates claims that he has been told by intermediaries from the Gods ("daemons") to question the actions of the people in the city.
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Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:45
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Of course, the Greeks also had men like Epicurus, as well as other philosophers who opposed religion, opting instead to espouse academic advancement.
As well, even if it were a purely religious text (I imagine the Qun somewhat resembling a highly authoritarian and aggressive version of Buddhism), It still poses a threat to the chantry, and we've already seen how far they'd go to eliminate such threats. It doesn't take that much of a streach to think that the chantry would work with someone like Castillion to acquire it.
As well, even if it were a purely religious text (I imagine the Qun somewhat resembling a highly authoritarian and aggressive version of Buddhism), It still poses a threat to the chantry, and we've already seen how far they'd go to eliminate such threats. It doesn't take that much of a streach to think that the chantry would work with someone like Castillion to acquire it.
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Posté 19 mars 2011 - 07:55
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Beren082 wrote...
Of course, the Greeks also had men like Epicurus, as well as other philosophers who opposed religion, opting instead to espouse academic advancement.
As well, even if it were a purely religious text (I imagine the Qun somewhat resembling a highly authoritarian and aggressive version of Buddhism), It still poses a threat to the chantry, and we've already seen how far they'd go to eliminate such threats. It doesn't take that much of a streach to think that the chantry would work with someone like Castillion to acquire it.
Yup! And it's worth noting that the Greeks by and large were proponents of arete. But that's neither here nor there.
The problem I have with that is that Orlais had the Tome and were going to give it up to the Qunari. Orlais, being the seat of the Divine, isn't exactly the most religiously disassociated place... Although extremists on both side of a conflict (a la Mother Petrice) are always a possibility for rogue actions. *Shrug* We'll have to see if this is resolved come DA3, expansion, or DLC, no? :3
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Posté 19 mars 2011 - 08:13
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And, then again, Castillion may really just be a collector willing to see Kirkwall burn for another addition to his gallary. We've seen crazier people in Thedas. I'm looking at you old hermit guy in the Bracillion Forests.
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Posté 19 mars 2011 - 08:19
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Beren082 wrote...
And, then again, Castillion may really just be a collector willing to see Kirkwall burn for another addition to his gallary. We've seen crazier people in Thedas. I'm looking at you old hermit guy in the Bracillion Forests.
Here's hoping he has all of Varric's Kirkwall Guard series, Isabela's smut books ("101 Uses", "Leather to Feather"). And Brother Genetivi's books.... Side by side on his bookshelf the way Hawke does. The Tome of Koslun will fit in great between the smut and the scholarly writings.
