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[Merchant2006]

Mac Walters just said that in the DLC your playing solo (Shepard only) and that it's neither for Cerberus nor the Alliance.

http://masseffect.bioware.com/webcast/ Live now!

Modifié par Merchant2006, 24 mars 2011 - 09:11 .

[TuringPoint]

I doubt they would do that.

[Merchant2006]

But... he said it... he said the DLC was solo and that it was neither for Cerberus nor the Alliance. Well whatever. Either I heard wrong or he's wrong, whatever.

Modifié par Merchant2006, 24 mars 2011 - 09:39 .

[AcidRelic]

All the reviews on the DLC are stating you are alone as Shepard. That doesn't mean your not on a side. Technically your helping yourself because your finding reaper ...stuff, but also its given to you by Hackett who is Alliance.

[GreenDragon37]

LordAnguis wrote...

Badpie wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

LordAnguis wrote...

Oh, by the way: Bomb In My Pants, there's a few people who apparently think Hackett already is Cerberus. We'll have to see in Arrival, I'm guessing.

If Hackett is Cerberus he's getting a bullet in his ass. I pray Bioware doesn't pull that card. They probably won't.

I've always thought at the highest levels Cerberus and the Alliance were in bed together.  They could never officially be so on paper because Cerberus does some shady stuff.  It would be a PR nightmare for the Alliance if people found out and could link it to them.  So Cerberus gets their hands dirty and get called a terrorist organization and the Alliance gets to reap the benefits of their research with a clear conscience.  Not saying it's the most moral or ideal situation, but few government/military alliances are.  And like I said, this would only be at the very top.  Your average Cerberus or Alliance employee would have no idea.

Finally found this thread again. I think that there are people high-up in the Alliance who are secretly in partnership with TIM. Whether they're using dummy corporations to fund Cerberus projects or even suggest projects to pursue, I think that would be interesting.

 I personally think the final scene between TIM and Shepard was one that was so intense because of the emotions involved and the diametrically-opposed viewpoints of the two men. (If you destroyed the base, that is). TIM is an at all-costs kind of person, while a Paragon Shepard tends to believe in diplomacy when possible. (Then again, there are Renegade choices for 'diplomacy', as it witnessed on Illium, the Flotilla, etc.) I bet anything that we get a message from TIM in our Normandy mail apologizing for the hasty words. TIM, I think, allowed his emotions to get the better of him, and will regret his words only because of the fact that he's turned Shepard against him.

 Also, I'd like to point out how I view the Paragon/Renegade thing. A lot of people see the Renegade scale as being the same as the Dark Side scale on KOTOR. From my understanding, this is not the case. The scores seem more to do with what kind of 'hero' you want to portray for the human race. A Paragon is one who is willing to not only work with aliens, but actively encourages such things, as seen in those dialogue choices. A Renegade is one who has the choice of preferring human company, or just being very ruthless and seemingly emotionless. Many times in my Engineer/Renegade playthrough, I had a lot of people asking me about one thing or another. (Ash with her mistrust of aliens). Despite that particular Shepard's own dislike of aliens (as shown by his aiding Finch)  he'll get after her for questioning the placement of members of the squad.
 
 Also, a lot of people say the Renegade options are 'jack***' only choices. I'd like to point out that in one of our conversations with Miranda, one of the Renegade options is labeled (Kiss Her). That's a Renegade option, but without the instant death or verbal beat-down that everyone sees it as.

It's not something that I haven't thought about. However, we would have been informed about this if it was true, especially if you're Paragon shep. And I agree with you on Renegade VS. Paragon. Paragons believe in diplomacy, working with aliens, and just being cooperative. However, that won't stop 'em from fighting when needed. Renegades are more shoot first, ask questions later, kind of guys. They believe Humanity should mostly stand on it's own, and at times they do appear to be racist. Especially in ME1.

Really, no-one is a pure Paragon/Renegade. Everyone has both. Some are Paragades, some are Renagons(lol).  It's good to have a bit of one side, even if you're more fond of the other.

[ADelusiveMan]

omgodzilla wrote...

Earth is burning. Striking from beyond known space, a race of
terrifying machines have begun their destruction of the human race. As
Commander Shepard, an Alliance Marine, your only hope for saving
mankind is to rally the civilizations of the galaxy and launch one
final mission to take back the Earth.

And as we all know, Hacket is involved in Arrival. It seems like they might be setting Shepard up to re-join the Alliance which would be pretty lame if it was madatory. It would be a cool option for those who want it but they better give us an option to stick with Ceberus or work by ourselves as well.

I think giving us the option to either stick with Cerberus or go back to the Alliance would be the best route for them to take.

But isn't Shepard still technically Alliance military?

[GreenDragon37]

ADelusiveMan wrote...

omgodzilla wrote...

Earth is burning. Striking from beyond known space, a race of
terrifying machines have begun their destruction of the human race. As
Commander Shepard, an Alliance Marine, your only hope for saving
mankind is to rally the civilizations of the galaxy and launch one
final mission to take back the Earth.

And as we all know, Hacket is involved in Arrival. It seems like they might be setting Shepard up to re-join the Alliance which would be pretty lame if it was madatory. It would be a cool option for those who want it but they better give us an option to stick with Ceberus or work by ourselves as well.

I think giving us the option to either stick with Cerberus or go back to the Alliance would be the best route for them to take.

But isn't Shepard still technically Alliance military?

Technically, no. He was dead.However, he could be re-instated if he wants to. I think the best solution for ME3 is to go freelance with Liara as the Shadow Broker backing you.

[ADelusiveMan]

GreenDragon37 wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

omgodzilla wrote...

Earth is burning. Striking from beyond known space, a race of
terrifying machines have begun their destruction of the human race. As
Commander Shepard, an Alliance Marine, your only hope for saving
mankind is to rally the civilizations of the galaxy and launch one
final mission to take back the Earth.

And as we all know, Hacket is involved in Arrival. It seems like they might be setting Shepard up to re-join the Alliance which would be pretty lame if it was madatory. It would be a cool option for those who want it but they better give us an option to stick with Ceberus or work by ourselves as well.

I think giving us the option to either stick with Cerberus or go back to the Alliance would be the best route for them to take.

But isn't Shepard still technically Alliance military?

Technically, no. He was dead.However, he could be re-instated if he wants to. I think the best solution for ME3 is to go freelance with Liara as the Shadow Broker backing you.

Alright. Thanks for straightening that out. I like that being backed by Liara idea.

[GreenDragon37]

ADelusiveMan wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

omgodzilla wrote...

Earth is burning. Striking from beyond known space, a race of
terrifying machines have begun their destruction of the human race. As
Commander Shepard, an Alliance Marine, your only hope for saving
mankind is to rally the civilizations of the galaxy and launch one
final mission to take back the Earth.

And as we all know, Hacket is involved in Arrival. It seems like they might be setting Shepard up to re-join the Alliance which would be pretty lame if it was madatory. It would be a cool option for those who want it but they better give us an option to stick with Ceberus or work by ourselves as well.

I think giving us the option to either stick with Cerberus or go back to the Alliance would be the best route for them to take.

But isn't Shepard still technically Alliance military?

Technically, no. He was dead.However, he could be re-instated if he wants to. I think the best solution for ME3 is to go freelance with Liara as the Shadow Broker backing you.

Alright. Thanks for straightening that out. I like that being backed by Liara idea.

Me too. Mostly, I like the idea because Liara is not only my LI. She's become more than a bad-ass, she's the frickin' SB! So awesome.

[ADelusiveMan]

GreenDragon37 wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

omgodzilla wrote...

Earth is burning. Striking from beyond known space, a race of
terrifying machines have begun their destruction of the human race. As
Commander Shepard, an Alliance Marine, your only hope for saving
mankind is to rally the civilizations of the galaxy and launch one
final mission to take back the Earth.

And as we all know, Hacket is involved in Arrival. It seems like they might be setting Shepard up to re-join the Alliance which would be pretty lame if it was madatory. It would be a cool option for those who want it but they better give us an option to stick with Ceberus or work by ourselves as well.

I think giving us the option to either stick with Cerberus or go back to the Alliance would be the best route for them to take.

But isn't Shepard still technically Alliance military?

Technically, no. He was dead.However, he could be re-instated if he wants to. I think the best solution for ME3 is to go freelance with Liara as the Shadow Broker backing you.

Alright. Thanks for straightening that out. I like that being backed by Liara idea.

Me too. Mostly, I like the idea because Liara is not only my LI. She's become more than a bad-ass, she's the frickin' SB! So awesome.

Just be sure you don't cheat on her....the consequences....I don't even want to think about...

[GreenDragon37]

ADelusiveMan wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

omgodzilla wrote...

Earth is burning. Striking from beyond known space, a race of
terrifying machines have begun their destruction of the human race. As
Commander Shepard, an Alliance Marine, your only hope for saving
mankind is to rally the civilizations of the galaxy and launch one
final mission to take back the Earth.

And as we all know, Hacket is involved in Arrival. It seems like they might be setting Shepard up to re-join the Alliance which would be pretty lame if it was madatory. It would be a cool option for those who want it but they better give us an option to stick with Ceberus or work by ourselves as well.

I think giving us the option to either stick with Cerberus or go back to the Alliance would be the best route for them to take.

But isn't Shepard still technically Alliance military?

Technically, no. He was dead.However, he could be re-instated if he wants to. I think the best solution for ME3 is to go freelance with Liara as the Shadow Broker backing you.

Alright. Thanks for straightening that out. I like that being backed by Liara idea.

Me too. Mostly, I like the idea because Liara is not only my LI. She's become more than a bad-ass, she's the frickin' SB! So awesome.

Just be sure you don't cheat on her....the consequences....I don't even want to think about...

Yeah, I'm loyal. Luckily, we made up after LotSB. Great piece of DLC right there. I only hope Arrival is just as good, if not better.

[Thumb Fu]

ADelusiveMan wrote...

Just be sure you don't cheat on her....the consequences....I don't even want to think about...

I think the line your looking for is "I will flay you alive... with my mind!"

[ADelusiveMan]

Thumb Fu wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

Just be sure you don't cheat on her....the consequences....I don't even want to think about...

I think the line your looking for is "I will flay you alive... with my mind!"

Yep, that's the one.

[ADelusiveMan]

GreenDragon37 wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

omgodzilla wrote...

Earth is burning. Striking from beyond known space, a race of
terrifying machines have begun their destruction of the human race. As
Commander Shepard, an Alliance Marine, your only hope for saving
mankind is to rally the civilizations of the galaxy and launch one
final mission to take back the Earth.

And as we all know, Hacket is involved in Arrival. It seems like they might be setting Shepard up to re-join the Alliance which would be pretty lame if it was madatory. It would be a cool option for those who want it but they better give us an option to stick with Ceberus or work by ourselves as well.

I think giving us the option to either stick with Cerberus or go back to the Alliance would be the best route for them to take.

But isn't Shepard still technically Alliance military?

Technically, no. He was dead.However, he could be re-instated if he wants to. I think the best solution for ME3 is to go freelance with Liara as the Shadow Broker backing you.

Alright. Thanks for straightening that out. I like that being backed by Liara idea.

Me too. Mostly, I like the idea because Liara is not only my LI. She's become more than a bad-ass, she's the frickin' SB! So awesome.

Just be sure you don't cheat on her....the consequences....I don't even want to think about...

Yeah, I'm loyal. Luckily, we made up after LotSB. Great piece of DLC right there. I only hope Arrival is just as good, if not better.

Yeah, LotSB was good. I enjoyed it. I'm hoping either Ashley or Kaidan will show up in Arrival, but honestly I doubt it will happen. My Femshep doesn't even have a ME1 love interest, and I let Kaiden die. I'm thinking about replaying my ME1 game to change that, but at the moment my Femshep is loyal to Thane.

[GreenDragon37]

ADelusiveMan wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

omgodzilla wrote...

Earth is burning. Striking from beyond known space, a race of
terrifying machines have begun their destruction of the human race. As
Commander Shepard, an Alliance Marine, your only hope for saving
mankind is to rally the civilizations of the galaxy and launch one
final mission to take back the Earth.

And as we all know, Hacket is involved in Arrival. It seems like they might be setting Shepard up to re-join the Alliance which would be pretty lame if it was madatory. It would be a cool option for those who want it but they better give us an option to stick with Ceberus or work by ourselves as well.

I think giving us the option to either stick with Cerberus or go back to the Alliance would be the best route for them to take.

But isn't Shepard still technically Alliance military?

Technically, no. He was dead.However, he could be re-instated if he wants to. I think the best solution for ME3 is to go freelance with Liara as the Shadow Broker backing you.

Alright. Thanks for straightening that out. I like that being backed by Liara idea.

Me too. Mostly, I like the idea because Liara is not only my LI. She's become more than a bad-ass, she's the frickin' SB! So awesome.

Just be sure you don't cheat on her....the consequences....I don't even want to think about...

Yeah, I'm loyal. Luckily, we made up after LotSB. Great piece of DLC right there. I only hope Arrival is just as good, if not better.

Yeah, LotSB was good. I enjoyed it. I'm hoping either Ashley or Kaidan will show up in Arrival, but honestly I doubt it will happen. My Femshep doesn't even have a ME1 love interest, and I let Kaiden die. I'm thinking about replaying my ME1 game to change that, but at the moment my Femshep is loyal to Thane.

I sure hope they make an appearance/are a temporary squad member. Liara fans wanted a Liara DLC and we got our wish. The Ash/Kaidan fans should get something. If not in this DLC, it should definitely be in ME3.

[ADelusiveMan]

GreenDragon37 wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

omgodzilla wrote...

Earth is burning. Striking from beyond known space, a race of
terrifying machines have begun their destruction of the human race. As
Commander Shepard, an Alliance Marine, your only hope for saving
mankind is to rally the civilizations of the galaxy and launch one
final mission to take back the Earth.

And as we all know, Hacket is involved in Arrival. It seems like they might be setting Shepard up to re-join the Alliance which would be pretty lame if it was madatory. It would be a cool option for those who want it but they better give us an option to stick with Ceberus or work by ourselves as well.

I think giving us the option to either stick with Cerberus or go back to the Alliance would be the best route for them to take.

But isn't Shepard still technically Alliance military?

Technically, no. He was dead.However, he could be re-instated if he wants to. I think the best solution for ME3 is to go freelance with Liara as the Shadow Broker backing you.

Alright. Thanks for straightening that out. I like that being backed by Liara idea.

Me too. Mostly, I like the idea because Liara is not only my LI. She's become more than a bad-ass, she's the frickin' SB! So awesome.

Just be sure you don't cheat on her....the consequences....I don't even want to think about...

Yeah, I'm loyal. Luckily, we made up after LotSB. Great piece of DLC right there. I only hope Arrival is just as good, if not better.

Yeah, LotSB was good. I enjoyed it. I'm hoping either Ashley or Kaidan will show up in Arrival, but honestly I doubt it will happen. My Femshep doesn't even have a ME1 love interest, and I let Kaiden die. I'm thinking about replaying my ME1 game to change that, but at the moment my Femshep is loyal to Thane.

I sure hope they make an appearance/are a temporary squad member. Liara fans wanted a Liara DLC and we got our wish. The Ash/Kaidan fans should get something. If not in this DLC, it should definitely be in ME3.

Agreed. My Maleshep is loyal to Ashley, and I've been wanting to have some kind of DLC or something to follow up on what happened between them on Horizon.

[Clone 071]

GreenDragon37 wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

Yeah, LotSB was good. I enjoyed it. I'm hoping either Ashley or Kaidan will show up in Arrival, but honestly I doubt it will happen. My Femshep doesn't even have a ME1 love interest, and I let Kaiden die. I'm thinking about replaying my ME1 game to change that, but at the moment my Femshep is loyal to Thane.

I sure hope they make an appearance/are a temporary squad member. Liara fans wanted a Liara DLC and we got our wish. The Ash/Kaidan fans should get something. If not in this DLC, it should definitely be in ME3.

From what I've been hearing from the VS forums/groups, I don't think we'll see them, unfortunately.
I miss Ash. In ME3, BioWare said that the VS would play a larger role in that game, so I have some hope there.

As for rejoining the Alliance, yeah, sure. And if there's a chance that I can get that damn Cerberus logo off my Normandy, more power there. Honestly, I liked being a part of the Alliance better though rather than having TIM stab me in the back and send me right into Collector hands.

Modifié par Clone 071, 24 mars 2011 - 11:57 .

[GreenDragon37]

Clone 071 wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

Yeah, LotSB was good. I enjoyed it. I'm hoping either Ashley or Kaidan will show up in Arrival, but honestly I doubt it will happen. My Femshep doesn't even have a ME1 love interest, and I let Kaiden die. I'm thinking about replaying my ME1 game to change that, but at the moment my Femshep is loyal to Thane.

I sure hope they make an appearance/are a temporary squad member. Liara fans wanted a Liara DLC and we got our wish. The Ash/Kaidan fans should get something. If not in this DLC, it should definitely be in ME3.

From what I've been hearing from the VS forums/groups, I don't think we'll see them, unfortunately.
I miss Ash. In ME3, BioWare said that the VS would play a larger role in that game, so I have some hope there.

As for rejoining the Alliance, yeah, sure. And if there's a chance that I can get that damn Cerberus logo off my Normandy, more power there. Honestly, I liked being a part of the Alliance better though rather than having TIM stab me in the back and send me right into Collector hands.

Amen. Yeah!

[ADelusiveMan]

Clone 071 wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

Yeah, LotSB was good. I enjoyed it. I'm hoping either Ashley or Kaidan will show up in Arrival, but honestly I doubt it will happen. My Femshep doesn't even have a ME1 love interest, and I let Kaiden die. I'm thinking about replaying my ME1 game to change that, but at the moment my Femshep is loyal to Thane.

I sure hope they make an appearance/are a temporary squad member. Liara fans wanted a Liara DLC and we got our wish. The Ash/Kaidan fans should get something. If not in this DLC, it should definitely be in ME3.

From what I've been hearing from the VS forums/groups, I don't think we'll see them, unfortunately.
I miss Ash. In ME3, BioWare said that the VS would play a larger role in that game, so I have some hope there.

As for rejoining the Alliance, yeah, sure. And if there's a chance that I can get that damn Cerberus logo off my Normandy, more power there. Honestly, I liked being a part of the Alliance better though rather than having TIM stab me in the back and send me right into Collector hands.

This. 

I really want to get that Cerberus logo off the Normandy, especially after I told TIM off. I really wanted to just go back to the Citadel and tell Anderson I'm coming back. But sadly, that did not happen. 

As for ME3, I'm seriously hoping we get that option to either stay with Cerberus or go back to the Alliance. Not only is the Alliance more trustworthy, but I think they are the best way to combat the Reapers because they are not a racist terrorist organization.

[jbblue05]

LordAnguis wrote...

(Sigh) Cerberus was only considered an Alliance initiative in ME1, and I have to wonder if they're actually Alliance at all considering they're apparently founded around TIM's manifesto. 

you believe the first thing your told

  The Alliance did not fund Cerberus in ME2. I don't know where you got that idea, but clearly you don't pay attention to anything in the game except shooting bad guys. As for the Alliance nominating Shepard for Spectre status, the COUNCIL chooses their own Spectres. We only think that they nominated Shepard because of one little bit of dialogue at the beginning of ME1. The rest of the game, its made clear the Council's had their eye on Shepard as a Spectre. THe Council sent Nihlus to evaluate him. The Alliance cooperated because, being a bunch of politicians, they want more say with the Council. 

If you paid attentiion to what EDI says and the events of Retribution its obvious The Alliance and Cerberus are funded by the same corporations.
Shooting bad guys really. I pay attention to the story you jerk.
Did you forget the intro the conversation between Anderson, Hackett, and Udina?  Did you gorget the COnvo with Anderson, Nihlus, and Shepard? The convo between SHepard, Chawkwas, and Jenkins?

 ME2 rolls around, Anderson or Udina is the Councilor for the Alliance. One thing to note, jbblue05, is that the Alliance is not the Council, except maybe in Renegade playthroughs where you've sacrificed the original Council. The Alliance is the 'galactic face' of Earth. 

no crap captain obvious

  Cerberus, the Alliance, and the Council all have their good points. The Council and Cerberus I find more likely to follow because of this fact: In the COuncil, you're a Spectre (if you chose to be reinstated) and you'll have access to Spectre resources in Mass Effect 3, provided you have cut ties with Cerberus. 

The only way to prove you cut ties with Cerberus is to destroy them, the Council can't just take your word.

 Cerberus is basicaly humanity's Spectres, only they don't answer to any government. But here's something to consider: Cerberus's backers are apparently the rich and powerful. THis does not mean the Alliance itself backs them. If you actually speak to Miranda instead of assuming the Alliance are the backers, you learn that it's a bunch of corporations individuals who run them who fund Cerberus. one of those is Miranda's father. 

Cerberus is a Black Ops Organization for the Alliance.
The Alliance aren't idiots they see the benefits of Cerberus.

 And yes, I 'm well aware of the whole idea of 'dummy corporations', and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if a handful of those were Alliance front corporations. But the fact remains that, officially, the Alliance considers Cerberus to be terrorists since they toe the Council line. 

Only an idiot believes the official story

 Me, even when I save the Collector base, I tell the Illusive Man he's working for me now. (The actual option is written, 'you're on my team, now'. Obviously, TIM's not going to be happy, but he's going to keep quiet until the Reaper threat is gone. So I see Shepard as having three or four major paths to follow in Mass Effect 3. 

Believe whatever you want.  You did exactly want TIM wanted.  As long as you keep doing what TIM wants he will tell you you're in charge

 I'd like to point something out, though: depending on what you did during your playthrough, you could technically already be considered an Alliance soldier. Choices like sending certain data to Alliance High Command rather than Cerberus or keeping it yourself is a sign that your Alliance Loyalist.
 

Sendimg it to the Alliance is not smart its just going to get swept under the rug

Modifié par jbblue05, 25 mars 2011 - 12:40 .

[LordAnguis]

jbblue05 wrote...

LordAnguis wrote...

(Sigh) Cerberus was only considered an Alliance initiative in ME1, and I have to wonder if they're actually Alliance at all considering they're apparently founded around TIM's manifesto. 

you believe the first thing your told

  The Alliance did not fund Cerberus in ME2. I don't know where you got that idea, but clearly you don't pay attention to anything in the game except shooting bad guys. As for the Alliance nominating Shepard for Spectre status, the COUNCIL chooses their own Spectres. We only think that they nominated Shepard because of one little bit of dialogue at the beginning of ME1. The rest of the game, its made clear the Council's had their eye on Shepard as a Spectre. THe Council sent Nihlus to evaluate him. The Alliance cooperated because, being a bunch of politicians, they want more say with the Council. 

If you paid attentiion to what EDI says and the events of Retribution its obvious The Alliance and Cerberus are funded by the same corporations.
Shooting bad guys really. I pay attention to the story you jerk.
Did you forget the intro the conversation between Anderson, Hackett, and Udina?  Did you gorget the COnvo with Anderson, Nihlus, and Shepard? The convo between SHepard, Chawkwas, and Jenkins?

 ME2 rolls around, Anderson or Udina is the Councilor for the Alliance. One thing to note, jbblue05, is that the Alliance is not the Council, except maybe in Renegade playthroughs where you've sacrificed the original Council. The Alliance is the 'galactic face' of Earth. 

no crap captain obvious

  Cerberus, the Alliance, and the Council all have their good points. The Council and Cerberus I find more likely to follow because of this fact: In the COuncil, you're a Spectre (if you chose to be reinstated) and you'll have access to Spectre resources in Mass Effect 3, provided you have cut ties with Cerberus. 

The only way to prove you cut ties with Cerberus is to destroy them, the Council can't just take your word.

 Cerberus is basicaly humanity's Spectres, only they don't answer to any government. But here's something to consider: Cerberus's backers are apparently the rich and powerful. THis does not mean the Alliance itself backs them. If you actually speak to Miranda instead of assuming the Alliance are the backers, you learn that it's a bunch of corporations individuals who run them who fund Cerberus. one of those is Miranda's father. 

Cerberus is a Black Ops Organization for the Alliance.
The Alliance aren't idiots they see the benefits of Cerberus.

 And yes, I 'm well aware of the whole idea of 'dummy corporations', and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if a handful of those were Alliance front corporations. But the fact remains that, officially, the Alliance considers Cerberus to be terrorists since they toe the Council line. 

Only an idiot believes the official story

 Me, even when I save the Collector base, I tell the Illusive Man he's working for me now. (The actual option is written, 'you're on my team, now'. Obviously, TIM's not going to be happy, but he's going to keep quiet until the Reaper threat is gone. So I see Shepard as having three or four major paths to follow in Mass Effect 3. 

Believe whatever you want.  You did exactly want TIM wanted.  As long as you keep doing what TIM wants he will tell you you're in charge

 I'd like to point something out, though: depending on what you did during your playthrough, you could technically already be considered an Alliance soldier. Choices like sending certain data to Alliance High Command rather than Cerberus or keeping it yourself is a sign that your Alliance Loyalist.
 

Sendimg it to the Alliance is not smart its just going to get swept under the rug

I apologize if I seemed abrupt in this message. I tend to just write.

I am going to admit that I haven't read the books, so I will endeavor to do so in order to see the story as you're saying it.
 Your point about the Alliance and Cerberus are interesting. In a way, they're two sides of the same coin.

I admit your point about the convo between Anderson, Hackett, and Udina, but that's the only time we hear the Alliance brass talking about it. Now it's possible they submitted a number of names, and Shepard was one of them. We get that bit of convo at the beginning of Mass Effect.
 I assume you're asking for proof in regards to my statement that the Council had sent Nihlus for the final evaluation. Have you spoken to Anderson after the original hearing for Saren and asked him about the Spectres? If you follow that entire investigative branch, you'll hear that the Council's had their eye on Shepard for years.

 I think I probably misunderstood a number of your earlier posts. Some of these forum posts can be a bit confusing at times.

 Anyways, thanks for the info. I'll do the research on that so I can get caught up.