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Zevran's bugged in DA2 for romanced characters!


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#51
Sabriana

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Hah, I knew it. Something always goes wrong with Zevran. And Ejoslin dug it up. I'm so surprised - NOT. :)

Zevran was commited and true to my Warden, and so was she. Nice to see that someone in game design took that to heart, even though it ended up bugged.

Maybe my Hawke will try and flirt with Zevran in another run-through. I didn't encounter the bug in my first one, because she was already committed to Fenris, and didn't flirt with Zevran. He did mention her beauty and such, but no come-on's from his side either.

The worst thing in my opinion? He doesn't even look like Zevran. So maybe I just let it be, never flirt with him, and leave it that way. Or maybe I'll play through it with my eyes closed. At least he sounds like Zevran.

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I have a doubt. I guess this bug also happens on consoles, or only in the PC? I play on PS3, haven't reach that part yet... but my imported saved game involved a relationship with Zevran, and honestly, I was very disappointed when I did read that Zevran didn't aknowledge it in the game. But nobody playing on the PS3 has confirmed me if this happens to them too so I don't know what to do. Since mods can't be used on PS3, I guess we'll have to wait for a patch, and I'm definitely considering to stop playing and wait until that patch is released...

(I know it had to be a bug, BTW :))

Modifié par RedSonia, 21 mars 2011 - 10:17 .


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I'll respond here though I had started another thread on this yesterday (gah, I'm bad lol -- I thought this thread had died. I'm sure there will be a merge.  My apologies, mods). All the import flags are bugged. Zevran has bugs beyond the import flags. It affects all platforms.

Even with the import flags working, you have Zevran thinking that the warden is dead and still responding to Hawke's flirting (he is NOT supposed to).

As far as it being "that's Zevran," all I can say is, well, not really, not if he was in love. And according to the dialog in the talktable, he's supposed to be faithful and true to the warden/memory of the warden. And in fact, I DID see the dialog where he turns down Isabela because "the memories are too fresh," but of course, that warden was alive :/ And he still responded to Hawke's flirting (he's not supposed to).

Even if you don't hit on him, he's supposed to acknowledge the romance. And in fact, I DID get a line from him doing just that, but again, it was a line that was supposed to trigger if he was in mourning. And it's very sad.

Edit: /hugs Sabriana :D

Modifié par ejoslin, 21 mars 2011 - 10:52 .


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It's nice to see all the Zev thread people popping up here!

I certainly hope we get a fix for Zev's cameo! Thanks for posting those lines, ejoslin. I love that Zev was supposed to acknowledge his relationship with the Warden, and I'm bummed that we're missing any potentially awesome Zev dialogue.

And people that think "that's just Zevran" probably just haven't completed his romance. Or are just trying to stir the pot.

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Sabriana

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I didn't get a comment on his commitment to my Warden either. Like I said, my Hawke didn't flirt with him on the grounds of her and Fenris being an item. Oh man, that would've been nice, but at least we can read the lines here. No toolset this time around, bummer. Is there one in the wings? I've no clue myself, I haven't read up on much yet, let alone finding out about a possible toolset.

I agree, Senor, it IS nice :)

/hugs Ejoslin right back

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I'm really glad they at least TRIED to show his commitment, even if the bugs make it an epic fail. Thanks for sharing, ejoslin.

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Oh, I should be clear -- in order to get any romance responses from him at all (though not all of them, and the ones for a dead warden though my warden was alive) I had to use a mod that fixed the import flags.

Without the import flags fixed, there's nothing at all. But while I believe that the import flags will be fixed (I really do believe this), if they are and Zevran is not addressed, he will be even more bugged.

I'm also glad they at least tried to show his commitment -- the lines are sweet and very much in character. It's just too bad that getting the default lines (which ARE in character as well for a non-romanced Zevran) are so horrible for a romanced one.

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I imported a Warden who romanced Zevran and even the epilogue of Awakenings had mentioned her rejoining him in Antiva. He flirted shamelessly with my Hawke (admittedly after one jokey flirt from her) and only shut up when Fenris intervened. I was too busy alternating between horror at his new appearance and amusement about how quickly he backed down to be too bothered by the lack of a mention, but it should be fixed. My game import also had Queen Anora on the throne with Alistair remaining a regular GW but the king was mentioned later in the game.

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Sabriana wrote...

The worst thing in my opinion? He doesn't even look like Zevran. So maybe I just let it be, never flirt with him, and leave it that way. Or maybe I'll play through it with my eyes closed. At least he sounds like Zevran.


lucky english speakers ... this would just be a reason for me to reinstall the game in english. in the german version he looks different AND sounds different (which is even more immersion breaking than his looks), he could be a completely different person who just happens to share a name and profession with my warden's LI.

well, maybe this is the case and the reason why he hit on my hawke twice, without acknowledging my (living!) warden ;) <_<

Modifié par feyii, 21 mars 2011 - 10:20 .


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johook213

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I hope Bioware fixes Zevran's dialogue. =(

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Sabriana wrote...

*snip*

The worst thing in my opinion? He doesn't even look like Zevran. So maybe I just let it be, never flirt with him, and leave it that way. Or maybe I'll play through it with my eyes closed. At least he sounds like Zevran.


I'm hoping someone makes a better Zevran head morph mod. His new appearance is certainly... jarring as is. But, as you say, at least he has the same (awesome) voice actor. I would love to hear those sweet, in-character lines he's supposed to say though.

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Ah, Zevran... <3

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Same, hope Zevran's dialogue is fixed soon too :x I haven't beaten the game yet, but when my brother mentioned that to me, and now hearing it on the boards, I was a little surprised. Now I'm waiting for it to be fixed before I import my mage's romanced Zevran playthrough.

And yeah, he is really fugly in DA2 >.>

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That just makes me so sad... and happy! I was somewhat put out when my Hawke hit on him and he was like: Sure, why not. My house? I started my latest save and DID NOT hit on him in the next dialogue. I actually only wanted to test Fenris reaction - which was super funny, btw.

I'm really happy, that these lines are there... somewhere... and I'm sure to test them as soon as possible... someday... with a toolset... damn. <.<

@senorfuzzylips: Thank you for that wonderful pic. :wub: Oh, how I miss him. I'm going to play DAO again...

BTW. In German, Hawkes voice actor is Zevrans from DAO, which is why Zevran has a different voice actor in DA2, which is quite confusing. But at least I have Zevrans voice with me all the time. <3


Damn,even Fenris ist buggy as hell. He thinks his sister is dead, even though she is alive. :blink: Strange indeed. <_<

Modifié par ColorMeSuprised, 23 mars 2011 - 05:39 .


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Tajah Silver-Sparke

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It's so good to read those lines that Zev *should* be saying. Thank you for finding them!!

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Wait I thought all he was supposed to do was NOT try to get into Hawke's pants if he's romanced (which in my game he did skip that it seemed, that and I didn't flirt with him) Nooo I want that dialog now.

Modifié par MPSai, 24 mars 2011 - 02:44 .


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Good to know it's there, at least. Ugh, how I hate bugs.

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Sabriana wrote...

Hah, I knew it. Something always goes wrong with Zevran. And Ejoslin dug it up. I'm so surprised - NOT. :)

Zevran was commited and true to my Warden, and so was she. Nice to see that someone in game design took that to heart, even though it ended up bugged.


Ejoslin is our hero. XD

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Aw, it makes me all warm inside to at least see what Zev was SUPPOSED to say. One thing I think DID notice different, but people who focussed more on this particular part more than me can say...

In my import where Zev was in a romantic relationship with my Warden, it DID seem to be acknowledged by Nuncio shouting "Your warden isn't here to protect you this time!" or something along those lines. I don't recall hearing "Your warden" when I played through when my character married Alistair. Does Nuncio always say that and I just didn't hear it the second time, or is that at least -one- reference that remained intact about the Warden and Zevran being a couple? (I realize the others being left out are bugs, just curious on this.)

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Oneiropolos wrote...

In my import where Zev was in a romantic relationship with my Warden, it DID seem to be acknowledged by Nuncio shouting "Your warden isn't here to protect you this time!" or something along those lines.


Oh my! I want to hear that! It would be SO like my warden to protect Zevran, even if she's the girl in the relationship :lol:

I'm not sure if I'll be able to wait until a patch is released...

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I've done two playthroughs of DA2, and neither was an import, and I got that Warden acknowledgement from Nuncio both times. Perhaps another bug, then?

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RedSonia wrote...

Oneiropolos wrote...

In my import where Zev was in a romantic relationship with my Warden, it DID seem to be acknowledged by Nuncio shouting "Your warden isn't here to protect you this time!" or something along those lines.


Oh my! I want to hear that! It would be SO like my warden to protect Zevran, even if she's the girl in the relationship :lol:

I'm not sure if I'll be able to wait until a patch is released...


Well, sure, but the Warden's the Warden. My Warden was female too, but she's the one who stuck a sword in the archdemon's head. Zev DOES react to the warden saying he must think they're royally stupid with, "I think you're royally tough to kill. And utterly gorgeous. Not that I think you'll respond to simple flattery. But there are worse things in life than serving the whims of a deadly sex goddess". Zev has no issue with hiding behind the woman if the woman is the more deadly one. It's part of what makes him so loveable. He's all about equality, that Zev. :wub:

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If you upload the new mod to fix his dialogue and I hear you can still be half way through the game of da2. But zervan still remarks the warden as dead. Is there any way to get zervan to realize that your warden is still alive like uploading a new game of da2 from the start again for example?

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Duh, that really hurt. If you have Isabella with you in your Party, she walks off with him for sex. Oh, my warden, I'm so sorry. >.<

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Oneiropolos wrote...

Aw, it makes me all warm inside to at least see what Zev was SUPPOSED to say. One thing I think DID notice different, but people who focussed more on this particular part more than me can say...

In my import where Zev was in a romantic relationship with my Warden, it DID seem to be acknowledged by Nuncio shouting "Your warden isn't here to protect you this time!" or something along those lines. I don't recall hearing "Your warden" when I played through when my character married Alistair. Does Nuncio always say that and I just didn't hear it the second time, or is that at least -one- reference that remained intact about the Warden and Zevran being a couple? (I realize the others being left out are bugs, just curious on this.)


I got that line when the warden wasn't in a romance with Zevran, bar that one occasion at the pearl anyway.  I didn't get it when the warden had sent Zevran away after the assassination attempt.

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I know I'm really late to the thread but I just wondered if a fix had been sorted for this, making Zev say all the things he's supposed to.

Also, I wondered if anyone had found a VO extractor for DAII or if it had already been done? I'd quite like to get the Zev lines out of the game.

(btw thanks ejoslin for researching all this stuff)

Modifié par Tarante11a, 05 mai 2011 - 08:15 .