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[Speakeasy13]

Hi all,

I've almost maxed out Isabela's friendship by now, and I just discovered that having full friendship can basically make Isabela a useless character - instead of boosting her attack speed it slows her down. Well the sad part is Isabela is my one of main DPS and from what I've heard this is pretty bad. Is it bound to happen? Is it possible to avoid it? Should I just stop romancing her now? Is there any word from Bioware on this?

And may I just say the bugs in this game is a bit out of control? I know DA:O was done in 5 years and DA2 in 1.5, but that was no execuse for such poor quality management, to the point the otherwise good (not great) experience is borderline unbearable. I don't recall ever playing another Bioware game THIS buggy.

[Arllekin]

need a patch to resolve that, until then don't use her or download a gff4 program ( here on bsn ) and change the status.
what happens is that the basic Atk speed is 0.0, if you have Isabela friendship she should booster your atkspeed by 5%, but what happen is that it reduces over time, when i notice that my character Atk speed was -55.0.

Modifié par Arllekin, 19 mars 2011 - 02:07 .

[Speakeasy13]

Thx for the reply. So it happens 100% of the time? Does it show up on her DPS stat screen too? I think I will go on as usual and just carefully monitor her friendship and DPS to drop her as soon as it starts going down.

Between this, the NUMEROUS minor bugs, and the Maker's Sigh bug, it really makes me wonder if Bioware should consider firing their debug team... *Sigh*

[Major627]

It's actually your own character that slows down not Isabella.

[Arllekin]

Speakeasy13 wrote...

Thx for the reply. So it happens 100% of the time?*

i think it does, as long as you have her friendship and she stays on your group your atk speed goes down,  people also complain about Sebastian, he sucks your spell resistance.

obs: i don't think there is a way to see your atk speed on the game, the way that i manage it was with the program.

Modifié par Arllekin, 19 mars 2011 - 02:22 .

[Speakeasy13]

And the same for Sebastian too? Seriously Bioware WTF?!

[Cuthlan]

The guys on the xbox board are saying that so long as you always make sure she is in your group when you load a save, your attack speed will not decrease.

[dkini]

Yeah it completely breaks the game, I just had to delete my character at 37 hours played because I had both the isabella bug and the sebastian bug. Completely impossible to play when your formally super fast and fun to play rogue, has -100% attack speed and animation speed, and also -100% damage reduction from sebastian causing even the weakest enemies to kill you in 1 hit!!

[Nimpe]

I 100%ed isabela and used her in my party on the ps3 and I wasn't slowed down.

[dkini]

Then I would recommend never ever ever EVER!!! removing her from your party or you will get the bug, oh and don't go to your house either cause that will remove her automatically, oh and also don't do any storyline quests which remove her from your party.

Starting to see the issue here Nimpe?, either that or you did get the slow but only to a small degree and therefore you should consider yourself lucky

[Nimpe]

Went into my house alot. I even replaced with Varric for his companion quests.

[Speakeasy13]

Well since it's on PS3 then you can't really check if your character really is slowed down.

[dkini]

since I've seen you trolling other threads where people have had similar problems I'm not gonna waste my time responding to you anymore, either your a blind fanboy or your life is so empty you just jump into threads to alleviate the boredom of your pathetic existence, either way I'm not going to waste my time on you.

[Nimpe]

No, I'm being serious. If you want, I could load up that character and fight some to show you. I think I have an autosave before the endgame.

Edit: yup

Modifié par Nimpe, 19 mars 2011 - 02:58 .

[Maria Caliban]

Nimpe wrote...

I 100%ed isabela and used her in my party on the ps3 and I wasn't slowed down.

You were probably slowed down by a small amount.

I used Isabela throughout my first playthrough as a mage and never noticed a slow down. When I opened the save game editor, my attack was -10%. It doesn't seem to happen every time you remove her from your party or even every time you go to your house.

[Nimpe]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Nimpe wrote...

I 100%ed isabela and used her in my party on the ps3 and I wasn't slowed down.

You were probably slowed down by a small amount.

I used Isabela throughout my first playthrough as a mage and never noticed a slow down. When I opened the save game editor, my attack was -10%. It doesn't seem to happen every time you remove her from your party or even every time you go to your house.

If it slows you down so unnoticably, why is everyone complaining that it's gamebreaking?

[didymos1120]

Speakeasy13 wrote...

And may I just say the bugs in this game is a bit out of control? I know DA:O was done in 5 years and DA2 in 1.5, but that was no execuse for such poor quality management, to the point the otherwise good (not great) experience is borderline unbearable. I don't recall ever playing another Bioware game THIS buggy.

I recall one:  DA:O.  That thing was (and still is) riddled with bugs, 5 years of development notwithstanding.  Screwed up plot flags all over the place (mostly these affected dialogue, but they also resulted in erroneous Codex updates, and in a number of sidequests becoming impossible to finish), the dagger DEX bug, the Haste+Momentum bug,  the game going into an unwinnable state when playing both sides in Orzammar (that's actually a plot flag issue as well.  Took 'em ages to fix it too), numerous quests missing XP and loot rewards, Mana-Clash-to-desktop ( and Holy Smite), Anora's rescue mission and Fort Drakon both being fairly likely to confiscate your gear permanently, countless issues with DLC deciding it wasn't authorized or didn't feel like being downloaded or installed, etc., etc., etc.

It even had a one really annoying one not too unlike the Isabela/Sebastian bugs: the game might decide at some point to deduct all your item stats (including resistances) from your base stats.  IOW, not only did you not get the bonuses anymore, but you had to keep the gear on just to maintain what you're supposed to have with NO gear equipped at all. Thankfully, and unlike Is/Seb, that one's a real rarity. 

Modifié par didymos1120, 19 mars 2011 - 03:07 .

[Maria Caliban]

Nimpe wrote...

If it slows you down so unnoticably, why is everyone complaining that it's gamebreaking?

Because it doesn't slow *everyone* down unnoticably.

[Nimpe]

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

Nimpe wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Nimpe wrote...

I 100%ed isabela and used her in my party on the ps3 and I wasn't slowed down.

You were probably slowed down by a small amount.

I used Isabela throughout my first playthrough as a mage and never noticed a slow down. When I opened the save game editor, my attack was -10%. It doesn't seem to happen every time you remove her from your party or even every time you go to your house.

If it slows you down so unnoticably, why is everyone complaining that it's gamebreaking?

Because this might happen.

I'm safe to say that that didn't happen, so there must be some variable or... something that explains why I didn't get the bug.

[Kajan451]

Nimpe wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Nimpe wrote...

I 100%ed isabela and used her in my party on the ps3 and I wasn't slowed down.

You were probably slowed down by a small amount.

I used Isabela throughout my first playthrough as a mage and never noticed a slow down. When I opened the save game editor, my attack was -10%. It doesn't seem to happen every time you remove her from your party or even every time you go to your house.

If it slows you down so unnoticably, why is everyone complaining that it's gamebreaking?

Because, what you seem to fail to understand... is.. if you have her at 100% and change her in and out alot.. the Effect Stacks. If you like her alot and keep her around most of the time, or barely ever use her. It will likely be a less noticeable amount of speed you are loosing, but if you swap her in and out alot, because you play a bit more tactical... maybe on a higher difficulty where you do have to be more sensible about who you pick for which quest and situation, it does racke up said slow effects.

If every time you switch her out, move into your house or have her removed you have a... for the sake of the argument.. 50/50 chance of getting a permanent -5% debuff, which just gets stacked uppon, instead to "reset"... then you might understand why people are upset if their characters end up with a -100% speed debuff they can't get rid of.

[RhythmlessNinja]

Is this some kinda console only bug? I romanced isabella on my second playthrough as rogue and never had this problem happen & I switched her out many times during.

[Fdingo]

Played on the PC and I'm sure I swapped her out quite often yet it never slowed me down (or at least not to a degree that made me notice).

Modifié par Fdingo, 19 mars 2011 - 04:08 .

[MachDelta]

It happens on all three platforms.