[quote]AllThatJazz wrote...
But they are forced to do things against their will. They are forced to have largely no contact with their families, to do what they are told to do by the Templars for their entire lives, to never marry or have a family of their own, to never leave the Circle on pain of death or Tranquility. [/quote]
Maybe in Kirkwall but Fereldan is a very different story. The Magi Origin shreds some light on this, templars have very little input in the life of the mages, they stand there to guard and make sure nothing goes sour in the circle. But most of what the mages do is dictates by the First Enchater and the Senior Enchanters, Gregoire pretty much sits back and allows Irving to take control, only stepping in if he feels something is wrong.
Even Tranquility on Jowan was no allowed till both Gregoire and Irving had signed for approval. The only restraints on Mages is to never marry and to never leave (though sometimes this is wavered anyway). I would hardly call this slavery, especially seeing as a mage having childern normally results on more mages. The lack of contact with family is also for the Mages sake, the circle has to become there life, removing family ties allows them to fully understand that the Circle is their life now and their past life no longer means anything. Also the fact that family members can be abusive (like Jowan's mother) or attempt to help the mages escape.
[quote]Maybe Imprisonment is, strictly speaking, a more accurate term than Slavery, but it's still a pretty harsh set of conditions to impose on people who have done nothing wrong.[/quote]
Not all mages are a) Completely Guiltless

Against the circle.
The fact is mages DO turn to blood magic, to abominition, DON'T go through something like a harrowing without the circle. All it takes is a mages emotions to run high or go amock and BAM a demon comes to make a contract, normally using mind control to persuade the mage.
Also you do know that some mages WANT to be come tranquil? There was that mage praying in the Magi Origins, talking about how she hated magic and wish to be rid of it. And considers becoming tranquil if you suggest it to her.
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Then when you add into the mix the fact that some Templars abuse their already considerable power and the Chantry doesn't seem too bothered about it, and that there is an actual Law that says entire communities of mages can be eradicated if even a few are deemed enough of a threat, it's not a surprise that they are pissed off.[/quote]
Power corruption happens everywhere, that is the a fault with society rather than exclusively the circles. The right of annulment can only be done at the LAST moment when everything has gone to hell (which in both cases it has been called upon so far, is the case). Not to mention Meredith actually broke protocol because she didn't wait for the Divine to authorize it. Many members of the Chantry and Templars are bothered by it (like Samson, Cullen and Thrask) and don't approve of it at all.
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The Dalish seem to have the right of it. They have only one or two magic users per clan, and the clan hunters are responsible for 'dealing' with them if they start to pose a threat. [/quote]
Two important facts, they have 2 mages, this is vastly different from many thousand in one country. Secondly, the Dalish are even harsher than the templars, rather than using tranquility you are killed right off the bat. (some people might say dying is better, but that's not the point).
[quotepI don't see why it would be such a difficult thing for the Chantry to set up 'Mage schools' - yes, the kids can be taught to control and use their power, Templars can stand guard in case of problems, but the students can still spend time with their families, and make some kind of attempt at a normal life. Why do they all have to be shipped off to the Circle to spend the rest of their lives in comparative isolation?[/quote]
Well the first half is what the Circle does anyway. As for the families, I explained the reasons before, Mages can never intergrete with normal life because firstly, alot of people fear and want them dead and secondly because it would make them more likely to fall into temptations. And it's not isolation, mages have formed their own groups and their own way of life. Many mages enjoy their life in the Chantry, heck even Bethany enjoys being at the circle and that's KIRKWALL'S CHANTRY.
Modifié par MortalEngines, 19 mars 2011 - 10:37 .