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[crashingforward]

I don't get the point of Flemeth's return...it seems like the game was rushed and there are a lot of storylines left wide open...did i miss something??

[Daasen]

She's probably just there to set up the story for DA3
If not that, then I have no clue

[Kaiser Shepard]

Plot hook for the first and third games, done in such a way that she doesn't become too important in the story of the second game.

[AsaTJ]

The game was rushed.  That's the whole reason it's great and not Amazing like every other Bioware RPG.

And yeah, Flemeth=DA3. Final answer.

Modifié par AsaTJ, 19 mars 2011 - 05:47 .

[SpectreVerner]

The reason she came back was to show that Morrigan was right at the end of WItch Hunt. She will go on to try to retrieve the god child thing past the Eluvian. She has a minor role in DA2, but she is set up for a greater one in the series as a whole.

[MIB-2]

Or possibly to justify resurrecting her in DA3 if the Warden kills her in DAO

[Siven80]

She was in DA2 because she is an influence in the major points an changes of the world of Thedas imo.

And the DA series is about the world.

[Marixus99.9]

MIB-2 wrote...

Or possibly to justify resurrecting her in DA3 if the Warden kills her in DAO

I believe Act 1 happens after DAO ..

[hazmatzak]

The prelude of DA2, when you first meet Flemeth, happens at the same time as early in DA:O. She mentions that not all the Wardens are dead, but the surviving ones are out of reach. Lothering has just fallen.

In the year before Act 1 (i.e. Lowtown Hawke) while you are paying off the debt, the Warden defeats the Blight and possibly kills Flemeth. So if you see her again, you as a player know how she might show up in DA3 or whatever.

[Jarys]

hazmatzak wrote...

The prelude of DA2, when you first meet Flemeth, happens at the same time as early in DA:O. She mentions that not all the Wardens are dead, but the surviving ones are out of reach. Lothering has just fallen.

In the year before Act 1 (i.e. Lowtown Hawke) while you are paying off the debt, the Warden defeats the Blight and possibly kills Flemeth. So if you see her again, you as a player know how she might show up in DA3 or whatever.

A piece of her soul was in the amulet, it wasn't 'to justify resurrecting her' it was to resurrect her, period (anyone who cared about the game at all killed her, it's an integral part of the storyline).

[hazmatzak]

I didn't use the word "justify". Obviously, from Flemeth's perspective it was the prudent thing to do, having sent off Morrigan in DA:O

[Galien]

Jarys wrote...

hazmatzak wrote...

The prelude of DA2, when you first meet Flemeth, happens at the same time as early in DA:O. She mentions that not all the Wardens are dead, but the surviving ones are out of reach. Lothering has just fallen.

In the year before Act 1 (i.e. Lowtown Hawke) while you are paying off the debt, the Warden defeats the Blight and possibly kills Flemeth. So if you see her again, you as a player know how she might show up in DA3 or whatever.

A piece of her soul was in the amulet, it wasn't 'to justify resurrecting her' it was to resurrect her, period (anyone who cared about the game at all killed her, it's an integral part of the storyline).

Just why exactly was that a part of a storyline? You could have killed her, or not - but neither choice was seen as preferable in DAO. It was just a choice, nothing more. I certainly cared about the game in DAO, and that was exactly why I mostly did not killed her :-) I think that from nine games I did it only once to see what happens. That you prefer one choice does not mean everyone has. As for me, she saved my life, so it was an honorable thing to return the favor - to kill someone who saved your life does not seem to appealing to me. Just killing everything you encounter can not be called roleplaying much :-)

[MIB-2]

Marixus99.9 wrote...

MIB-2 wrote...

Or possibly to justify resurrecting her in DA3 if the Warden kills her in DAO

I believe Act 1 happens after DAO ..

Even so, they carried that amulet for some time, quite enough to sustain her while she was getting slayn before Act 1

[MColes]

She specifically states after the ritual, that things may or may not have happened to require her to use this ritual. And she does imply that she can be in multiple places at once "Must I be in only one place? Bodies are such limiting things.". You were her insurance policy, carrying one of her (very likely) many spares.

She knows Morrigan has her own agenda, infact even counted on it happening - "And why not? I raised her to be as she is. I cannot expect her to be less."

[Marixus99.9]

MIB-2 wrote...

Marixus99.9 wrote...

MIB-2 wrote...

Or possibly to justify resurrecting her in DA3 if the Warden kills her in DAO

I believe Act 1 happens after DAO ..

Even so, they carried that amulet for some time, quite enough to sustain her while she was getting slayn before Act 1

I know. Just looks like you were saying she was going to be resurrected in DA3 when she already was resurrected in DA2.

[Jiggasaurus]

Was quite disappointing in how little a role Flemeth played in DA2 in terms of screen time yet the original Flemeth from DAO had little interaction with your protagonist, in both games she has been the one getting the game rolling.

It’s hard to argue against her new character model & flaunting her shape-changing power as a dragon, seems a missed opportunity with such a minor involvement.

[Sordel]

It's just a callback. Complaining about it is like saying "what was the point of bringing Alistair back just to sit drunk in the tavern?"

[Ryan_Ridgecrest]

I think having such a cliche call back shows lack of writing skills.

[TillyBomas]

Galien wrote...

Jarys wrote...

hazmatzak wrote...

The prelude of DA2, when you first meet Flemeth, happens at the same time as early in DA:O. She mentions that not all the Wardens are dead, but the surviving ones are out of reach. Lothering has just fallen.

In the year before Act 1 (i.e. Lowtown Hawke) while you are paying off the debt, the Warden defeats the Blight and possibly kills Flemeth. So if you see her again, you as a player know how she might show up in DA3 or whatever.

A piece of her soul was in the amulet, it wasn't 'to justify resurrecting her' it was to resurrect her, period (anyone who cared about the game at all killed her, it's an integral part of the storyline).

Just why exactly was that a part of a storyline? You could have killed her, or not - but neither choice was seen as preferable in DAO. It was just a choice, nothing more. I certainly cared about the game in DAO, and that was exactly why I mostly did not killed her :-) I think that from nine games I did it only once to see what happens. That you prefer one choice does not mean everyone has. As for me, she saved my life, so it was an honorable thing to return the favor - to kill someone who saved your life does not seem to appealing to me. Just killing everything you encounter can not be called roleplaying much :-)

I agree.  In my first run through, I never got the quest to even do it (mainly because I was not a party person.. I had a bad line with Alistar and barly talked to Morrigan.)  However, in my second run through, I was offered the choice.  I let her go, because as stated, she saved my life.  Why kill someone I owe a debt to? 

[Sean]

there is still dlc for Flemeth to play a role in but most likely DA3

Dragon Age 2 is like Mass Effect 2, rushed and just to set the stage for the third

[FrozenDawn]

agree game was rushed and lots of potential flushed down the toilet.
if you watch closely... now and then you can catch a glimpse...
of what this game might have been....

[Legbiter]

Hawke was her life insurance.

[pyre]

Sordel wrote...

It's just a callback. Complaining about it is like saying "what was the point of bringing Alistair back just to sit drunk in the tavern?"

The Alistair scene is pretty minor, and his character mesh looked straight out of DAO.

Flemeth was a major cinematic sequence, has brand new character visuals, and she's prominently behind Hawke on the cover of the box (as well as the background for this forum).

Everyone I know who's finished the game had the same question about why Flemeth had such a minor role; it's a valid question.

[Erika T]

i think they just tried to make sure that everyone's on the same page about whether or not flemeth is alive. no matter what you did in origins, you did not kill flemeth. up to this point her cameo served no purpose other than confirming this.

[ArchibaldWheeler]

crashingforward wrote...

I don't get the point of Flemeth's return...it seems like the game was rushed and there are a lot of storylines left wide open...did i miss something??

Because she CAN!