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[Hatchetman77]

Psshhtt, my Warden was a badass Mage Arcane Warrior that left a trail of destruction wherever he went.  He destroyed the mages in the mage tower, he slaughtered the tribe of Dalish, he left Redcliff to the undead, then came back just to kill the undead to show how badass he was. He had Alistair executed then made Loghane take the final blow against the Archdemon, he slaughtered the peasants revolt at Vigil's Keep and he burned Amaranthine to the ground.  His entrophy mastery could raise the dead and any melee arracker would have to contend with his multiple entrophy auras of death while having their life syphoned out of them.  Plus he wore that demon armor from the Blackmarsh in Awakenings. 

If Hawke saw my Warden comming at him he'd **** his pants and run away.   

Modifié par Hatchetman77, 19 mars 2011 - 09:52 .

[Junri]

Hawke can do 30,000 crits with a bow. My Warden never got past 1000 damage unless you count Mana Clash. :X

[Yalision]

Warden killed an Archdemon, defeated countless golems, werewolves, demons of the highest calibur, tore himself out of the fade itself and defeated the greatest general in all of Ferelden. Not to mention he defeated Flemeth (potentially, depending on what you did). Warden is by far the superior warrior.

[allankles]

I just go by their depictions in the cutscenes and trailers. Both were bad ass, the mage champion Hawke was more so. So I go with Hawke.

Modifié par allankles, 19 mars 2011 - 10:25 .

[allankles]

^ To Yalison:The Arch Demon was a High Dragon, or took the form of one. Hawke has fought and bitten that type of opponent.

[Lolomlas]

It would be pretty even fight. But my vote is on the Warden.

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

Horus Amell-Bloodmage/Battlemage/Arcane Warrior/Shapeshifter

Ahriman Hawke-Bloodmage/Spirit Healer.

Horus Wins.

[Drowsy0106]

Blood-Lord Thanatos wrote...

Horus Amell-Bloodmage/Battlemage/Arcane Warrior/Shapeshifter

Ahriman Hawke-Bloodmage/Spirit Healer.

Horus Wins.

/thread. 

[Sen4lifE]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Sen4lifE wrote...

Considering this is Warden after Awakening, a rogue warden or a warden with any rogue can also do the areal backstab.  It was in DA:O-A first

I wouldn't consider it that. If it were after Awakening, he wouldn't have any of these characters in his group. He'd be stuck with the B-Team. Or even worse, the Witch Hunt C-Team.

At a similar level range at the end of their first stories is where I'd call it based on who's involved.

Okay.  Then in that case, Hawke only has Aveline and either Bethany or Carter (if I didn't get the name wrong) and is very unexperienced.  Because if the Warden has not gone through Awakening, Anders would not even be in the scenario, Hawke would be very weak and unexperienced and have crap for a team, and would very easily lose to Alistar, Wynne, Sten, Morrigan, or really whoever the Warden chose to bring.

And, after Awakening, he would still have Oghren, Zevran will agree to travel with you again at the end of DA:O, Alistar is still alive and could fight if he wanted, Wynne is doing her own work but could be put into play.  The only one who really wouldn't be available is Sten and Morrigan.. and maybe Shale, because he's busy killing pigeons.

And there's another point, if it were before Awakening, Shale would just crush them all.

Yalision wrote...

Warden killed an Archdemon, defeated
countless golems, werewolves, demons of the highest calibur, tore
himself out of the fade itself and defeated the greatest general in all
of Ferelden. Not to mention he defeated Flemeth (potentially, depending
on what you did). Warden is by far the superior warrior.

Really good point.  Hawke basically pissed himself when he saw Flemeth, The Warden laughed... well, I laughed, as I stabbed her to death.


And the Archdemon is much more than just a High Dragon.  If not, the Blight wouldn't have made every Fereldan ****** themself.


You got to think of the differences of what the two heros did.  Anything Hawke did can be done in The Warden's sleep. An entire army of Darkspawn, a resurrected God, a very skilled Antivan assassin, the best general in Fereldan, a demon of pride, all didn't even phase The Warden.

Modifié par Sen4lifE, 19 mars 2011 - 10:51 .

[blush]

Sen4lifE wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Sen4lifE wrote...

Considering this is Warden after Awakening, a rogue warden or a warden with any rogue can also do the areal backstab.  It was in DA:O-A first

I wouldn't consider it that. If it were after Awakening, he wouldn't have any of these characters in his group. He'd be stuck with the B-Team. Or even worse, the Witch Hunt C-Team.

At a similar level range at the end of their first stories is where I'd call it based on who's involved.

Okay.  Then in that case, Hawke only has Aveline and either Bethany or Carter (if I didn't get the name wrong) and is very unexperienced.  Because if the Warden has not gone through Awakening, Anders would not even be in the scenario, Hawke would be very weak and unexperienced and have crap for a team, and would very easily lose to Alistar, Wynne, Sten, Morrigan, or really whoever the Warden chose to bring.

And, after Awakening, he would still have Oghren, Zevran will agree to travel with you again at the end of DA:O, Alistar is still alive and could fight if he wanted, Wynne is doing her own work but could be put into play.  The only one who really wouldn't be available is Sten and Morrigan.. and maybe Shale, because he's busy killing pigeons.

And there's another point, if it were before Awakening, Shale would just crush them all.

Yalision wrote...

Warden killed an Archdemon, defeated
countless golems, werewolves, demons of the highest calibur, tore
himself out of the fade itself and defeated the greatest general in all
of Ferelden. Not to mention he defeated Flemeth (potentially, depending
on what you did). Warden is by far the superior warrior.

Really good point.  Hawke basically pissed himself when he saw Flemeth, The Warden laughed... well, I laughed, as I stabbed her to death.


And the Archdemon is much more than just a High Dragon.  If not, the Blight wouldn't have made every Fereldan ****** themself.


You got to think of the differences of what the two heros did.  Anything Hawke did can be done in The Warden's sleep. An entire army of Darkspawn, a resurrected God, a very skilled Antivan assassin, the best general in Fereldan, a demon of pride, all didn't even phase The Warden.

Amen to that.

[Kal Choedan]

Pff.

Hawke wins, regardless of companions on either side.

Why? Darkspawn taint. Hawke just has to kite the Warden for the next 20 or so years.  

That might seem like a long time to kite, but remember at least 19 of those years will pass in a cutscene.

Modifié par Kal Choedan, 21 mars 2011 - 07:30 .

[joriandrake]

"If Hawke and the Warden dueled... "

Sandal would win

[sonsonthebia07]

Sen4lifE wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Sen4lifE wrote...

Considering this is Warden after Awakening, a rogue warden or a warden with any rogue can also do the areal backstab.  It was in DA:O-A first

I wouldn't consider it that. If it were after Awakening, he wouldn't have any of these characters in his group. He'd be stuck with the B-Team. Or even worse, the Witch Hunt C-Team.

At a similar level range at the end of their first stories is where I'd call it based on who's involved.

Okay.  Then in that case, Hawke only has Aveline and either Bethany or Carter (if I didn't get the name wrong) and is very unexperienced.  Because if the Warden has not gone through Awakening, Anders would not even be in the scenario, Hawke would be very weak and unexperienced and have crap for a team, and would very easily lose to Alistar, Wynne, Sten, Morrigan, or really whoever the Warden chose to bring.

And, after Awakening, he would still have Oghren, Zevran will agree to travel with you again at the end of DA:O, Alistar is still alive and could fight if he wanted, Wynne is doing her own work but could be put into play.  The only one who really wouldn't be available is Sten and Morrigan.. and maybe Shale, because he's busy killing pigeons.

And there's another point, if it were before Awakening, Shale would just crush them all.

Yalision wrote...

Warden killed an Archdemon, defeated
countless golems, werewolves, demons of the highest calibur, tore
himself out of the fade itself and defeated the greatest general in all
of Ferelden. Not to mention he defeated Flemeth (potentially, depending
on what you did). Warden is by far the superior warrior.

Really good point.  Hawke basically pissed himself when he saw Flemeth, The Warden laughed... well, I laughed, as I stabbed her to death.


And the Archdemon is much more than just a High Dragon.  If not, the Blight wouldn't have made every Fereldan ****** themself.


You got to think of the differences of what the two heros did.  Anything Hawke did can be done in The Warden's sleep. An entire army of Darkspawn, a resurrected God, a very skilled Antivan assassin, the best general in Fereldan, a demon of pride, all didn't even phase The Warden.

Well the first time Hawke saw Flemeth, she was in dragon form, and she came out of nowhere in a blaze of fire and laid waste to everything on the battlefield.

The first time the Warden saw her, she was a frail old lady living in a shack.

But the Warden did seem to accomplish killing more "bigger baddies", the Archdemon being at the top - but the Warden had an entire army to help with it. I think Hawke would have more credit for defeating the fricken' Arishok of the qunari in a 1v1 duel than the Warden would get by defeating Loghain.

I think the Warden would probably win (with cheats, "warden senses are tingling"), but it would be a good fight.

[DesmondMiles]

Commander Shepard wins of cause

[sonsonthebia07]

Shepard Pawwwwnch v Murder Knife. I think that might be a no contest.

[Cody211282]

DesmondMiles wrote...

Commander Shepard wins of cause

You can fight like a krogen or run like a leopard but you will never be better then Commander Shepard.

[Knight Templar_]

My Warden. Killed broodmothers, Archdemons, King killers and is armed to the teeth.
Hawke is good but my Warden ended a Blight in record time.

[Cody211282]

Knight Templar wrote...

My Warden. Killed broodmothers, Archdemons, King killers and is armed to the teeth.
Hawke is good but my Warden ended a Blight in record time.

That is a rather good point, most blights take decades to stop, ours curbed stomped one in under a year.

[arathor_87]

My warden warrior. He is a beast. He has the demonarmor from Awakening, a badass weapon and more stamina than my Hawke has in hitpoints.

He has 100+ in strength and have both offensive, berserking, defensive and crowd control spells. He would kill the entire party of Hawke, Aveline, Anders and Isabella by himself. That's how powerful he is.

Hawke would be dead before he could even summon that marbari dog that some of you talks about. : )

Modifié par arathor_87, 21 mars 2011 - 09:08 .

[Impact969]

My warden mage is way better then my hawk mage. So simply put my warden would run rings around hawk.

[Aklis]

If the Warden from the Sacred Ashes-trailer fought the Hawke from the Destiny-trailer, my money's on Hawke. The Destiny-Hawke is obviously skilled in melee, so he'd be able to hold his own, rain all kinds of awesome spells on the Warden and ****ing rip him in half.

Comparing achievements, though, I'd have to go with the Warden. He (or rather, he and his bros) killed at least one dragon, at least one broodmother... I always saw the Warden (my Human Noble Warden, on my picture) as this paragon of good who just doesn't stop, which is why he'll always succeed.

[Cutlass Jack]

Sen4lifE wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

At a similar level range at the end of their first stories is where I'd call it based on who's involved.

Okay.  Then in that case, Hawke only has Aveline and either Bethany or Carter (if I didn't get the name wrong) and is very unexperienced.  Because if the Warden has not gone through Awakening, Anders would not even be in the scenario, Hawke would be very weak and unexperienced and have crap for a team, and would very easily lose to Alistar, Wynne, Sten, Morrigan, or really whoever the Warden chose to bring.

You didn't really read what I wrote there.

Really good point.  Hawke basically pissed himself when he saw Flemeth, The Warden laughed... well, I laughed, as I stabbed her to death.

Your Hawke may have pissed himself when Flemeth showed up, but mine certainly didn't. He cracked a few jokes and went 'Neat trick.' It was the most relaxed he looked in the entire sequence. When the Warden met Flemeth she was an old woman in a hut. Hardly the most scary of scenarios. But both my characters got along equally well with her. She appreciates witty banter.

[Quietness]

hawke is already beating the crud outta warden, while warden is doing funny walk into attack position...

Modifié par Quietness, 21 mars 2011 - 11:01 .

[Kreid]

Well, i think my Warden would take it, he was some kind of uber unstoppable two handed warrior that pretty much solo'ed high dragons, my warrior Hawke is powerful in his own right but the Warden in Witch hunt was just hardcore.

[Soulcheg]

my Warden - 35 level rogue, my Hawke - 25 level rogue. Obvious.