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Sebastian Support Group! (spoilers...possibly)


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#2576
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Happy holidays everyone! So, with all the holiday gift-giving around, remember Feastday gifts from DAO? Yes, I know it was released around April Fool's Day, but just for fun I wondered what gifts for Sebastian would be appropriate. Or inappropriate.

Feastday Gift: Armor polish (that increases defense bonuses of course)...the only downside could be Varric commenting on how often he 'polishes the armor'.

Feastday Prank: 'Tournament of Thrones' by Martin B. B. George. An in-depth look on how the past 200 years worth of Antivan princes have used a combination of bribery and assassination to remain in power, sometimes for as long as two months. A great read for anyone wanting to enter the world of politics. (Grants a bonus to damage.)

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Nice! Maybe that polish would be called, "Light O' The Maker" just to bring it home.

A shame, really, that there's only one possible gift for him. Shame that some people got two and some only one. Then again, Sebastian also took a vow of poverty so he's probably not allowed much.

I think it was brought up here a while ago that Meghan Veal's... pendant, I think, an item you pick up from one of the Flint Mercenaries, was a missed opportunity for a gift. For some reason, I had always assumed it was a sister or a cousin, but it may have very well been his mother.

The more I think about it, actually, the more disappointing it is. Sebastian may have been a wild child, but I have no reason to believe he hated or was completely estranged from his family. He at least respected his grandfather, I can only assume he misses him as well as the rest of the family. Even though he would have died if he had been with him, that would not stop the feeling of regret. What might have been his last words to his father before he got sent to the Chantry, do you think? The last words spoken before he never sees him again? Does Sebastian regret it?

Would have been a good chance to establish common ground, since Hawke has suffered loss of close family and fairly recently. The other love interests are... distant from any family. Those memories seem to be far away and clouded at best. Anders remembers his mother and has the pillow, but who knows how long ago that was... and he mentions it to Varric, not Hawke. Fenris has a sister, but even if she lives, I don't think they're looking to patch things up. Isabela mentions a mother who was a pretend seer but... that's it. Merrill's case is a bit different as she's from a different society altogether, although she was taken away from her biological family.

I guess what I'm trying to say is there could have been a touching, "I know how you feel" moment or two.   

Modifié par LessThanKate, 26 décembre 2011 - 05:00 .


#2578
Thiefy

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lol have you two read this tumblr? http://askchoirboy.t...agged/sebastian
funny you should mention the polish ;D

edit: we need a top! and i know this a support thread but i couldn't help but want to post this-

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Modifié par Thief-of-Hearts, 27 décembre 2011 - 05:00 .


#2579
Ellyria

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OMG Thief, it's Sailor Sebastian! HAHAHAHHA!

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I love those gifs. They're hilarious. I think the artist made one of Anders, Carver, Hawke and Fenris, too.

#2581
jillyfae

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And they're all specifically matched to a particularly Sailor Senshi. That's just extra hilarious.

#2582
Nenya Higurashi

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I just decided to join, because Sebastian is, with Varric and Aveline, my favourite character and the first thing I see in this threas is Sailor Sebastian...

Nenya approves +10

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Yes, those gifs are truly awesome. XD

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Until now, I didn't bring up the evilness to make Sebbo my rival.
But voila:
My newest playthrough, in which I finally rivaled him, made me like him even more^^
It shows how strong he really is.

Seb is now my favorite char after Varric and Aveline.

Modifié par Porenferser, 09 janvier 2012 - 03:56 .


#2585
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Porenferser wrote...

Until now, I didn't bring up the evilness to make Sebbo my rival.
But voila:
My newest playthrough, in which I finally rivaled him, made me like him even more^^
It shows how strong he really is.

Seb is now my favorite char after Varric and Aveline.


I didn't have the heart to do it at first either, but being his rival is not evil. There are probably a few things that gain his disapproval which are malevolant, but there's just enough, I think, that you can pick your battles.

And I believe he is a strong fellow either way, he just... well, he's a product of his upbringing, for one. And there was always one flaw of his I could relate to... being in a comfort zone. Knowing something and wanting to stay there, even if it's not ideal or even good for him, it's familiar, it's comfortable. This seems to anger some people, which... perhaps means they have a greater resolve. When they want something, they just do it. But not all people are like that, some people really are the only ones holding themselves back.

Also, since you brought up Varric, I don't believe I've ever shown this one:

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(by http://caboodledoodle.tumblr.com/)

I don't know what's going on here, but I like it.

Modifié par LessThanKate, 10 janvier 2012 - 01:40 .


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Thats quite nice^^

Also, doesn't anyone of you also think that Seb would make a good templar?
Would also fit pretty well to his character.

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idk about seb being a templar. he doesn't seem like he would be strict enough or have enough backbone to uphold some of the nastier templar rules. surely he has had that option when he first joined the chantry and opted not to take it?

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I can't see Sebastian as a Templar either.  More because of the impetuous headlong rush into doing stuff, which is hard to do in pseudo-military discipline, rather than any disagreement he'd have with the concept of Templars and their duties.  I mean, most of their more unpleasant duties aren't the sorts of things they'd tell recruits about.
He also isn't that fond of sword-fighting, (what with all the getting hit, :D), and you don't see many Templar archers... ;)

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No news on a new Sebastian DLC

#2590
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I really hope his story will get a conclusion.

Varric says that Hawke leaves Kirkwall after some time and being Viscount. I am wondering if Hawke leaves Kirkwall to go to Starkhaven with Sebastian.

I must say I like a friendshiped Sebastian more than a rivaled Sebastian but I can't really see any of my Hawkes joining the chantry and being chaste for the rest of her life. But with a rivaled Sebastian their relationship feels not so based on feelings but heavily focussed on politics. But maybe this is only my impression. 

Ah and I really hate the flirt dialog of Hawke for Sebastian - it may be fitting depending on the Hawke you are roleplaying but this is so cheap/direct and not suited for a Hawke who is really looking for a serious relationship with Sebastian and not for a night only.

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Eliantariel wrote...

I really hope his story will get a conclusion.

Varric says that Hawke leaves Kirkwall after some time and being Viscount. I am wondering if Hawke leaves Kirkwall to go to Starkhaven with Sebastian.

I must say I like a friendshiped Sebastian more than a rivaled Sebastian but I can't really see any of my Hawkes joining the chantry and being chaste for the rest of her life. But with a rivaled Sebastian their relationship feels not so based on feelings but heavily focussed on politics. But maybe this is only my impression. 

Ah and I really hate the flirt dialog of Hawke for Sebastian - it may be fitting depending on the Hawke you are roleplaying but this is so cheap/direct and not suited for a Hawke who is really looking for a serious relationship with Sebastian and not for a night only.


In a way the think I like about he Sebastian romance is that, unlike the other freindship/rivarly romances in the game, it actually MATTERS how Hawke romances him. Both relationships do not appear to be almost identical to each other. I like the friendship/rivarly system in the game. It's definitely not perfect, but it is something I'd like to see developed.

I actually enjoy the interaction of Sebastian with Bethany in the DLCs, especially when Hawke isn't Sebastian's lover. IF there are more DLCs for DA2, I would like to see THAT relationship develop, even if it doesn't end up with a true romance.

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Abispa wrote...
I actually enjoy the interaction of Sebastian with Bethany in the DLCs, especially when Hawke isn't Sebastian's lover. IF there are more DLCs for DA2, I would like to see THAT relationship develop, even if it doesn't end up with a true romance.


Maybe I'm greedy, but... no thanks. It's already annoying enough that Hawke practically has to strut around the Chantry in her panties to get Sebastian's attention, but then Bethany whines about her life once and Sebastian is eager to lavish her with compliments. What the hell. :huh:

Jennifer said Sebastian's story isn't over yet, so I'm hoping there's still some DLC left and BioWare hasn't abandoned it. I will have a sad if they do.

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It's already annoying enough that Hawke practically has to strut around the Chantry in her panties to get Sebastian's attention,

Exclusively, no less.

Though I'm against it from the other side. I don't want Sebastian coming anywhere near my younger sister; I'd rather have her be with someone who never considered turning in my own girlfriend and other friend to the templars, thanks.

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Has anyone played through Legacy with the new patch? I'm sure the answer is still no, but any sign of rivalmanced Seb dialogue? I suppose if such dialogue existed but just wasn't firing properly, it would already have been mined out of the talk tables, but a girl can still hope...

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I do not know if this is mentioned before but Hawke recieves a "strangely official looking letter".
What is the meaning behind it? I know you get an archievement when you have 100 gold but there has to be more to it then that.
The letter is about Seb's rival to the throne.
Any thoughts?

#2596
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It's a parody of a type of internet scam

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I was kinda hoping that it is some kind of cliffhanger for a DLC for Seb to take back Starkhaven. If Hawke would do as the letter suggests this would mean that she/he takes side against him.
So Wulfram you do not think that there is more to it?

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I wish they would release Sebastian's DLC already.

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Burnouts3s3 wrote...

I wish they would release Sebastian's DLC already.


Have any evidence there is going to be one?
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Mark Darrah just confirmed that there are no more DA2 dlc. Confirmed that there was also planned expansion called Exalted March, but it was cancelled in favour of 'other DA oppurtunities'. Assuming Sebastian's story would have been wrapped up in this expansion, it's probable that since it got cancelled his story in considered complete as is.

Needless to say, I am incredibly bummed by this.