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#976
zikadee

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Sable Rhapsody wrote...

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Yep. Questioning beliefs, and I was only romancing him. This was during the conversation in which he says "And perhaps one day we can make a more formal alliance between the Viscountess of Kirkwall and the Prince of Starkhaven."

I suppose his core beliefs are still there and he's just way more brutal about it. But I for one, prefer him when he says, "Frankly, both sides are despicable."


See, that's exceedingly weird.  He says that line to my Hawke, on the rivalry path.  And the worst thing he says is that he wants to put down the mage revellion and reassert the Chantry's hold.  I guess he says different things if you romance him?  But it's weird that his lines are more ruthless to a ROMANCED Hawke on the rivalry path than to an unromanced :?


Lemme just pull out my Sebastian dialogue maps, woop woop woop.:bandit:

It's a result of which choice you pick on the wheel after he tells you he's going back to Starkhaven.  The "Circle or DEATH" thing comes from the top option:

"You're right."
Hawke: You can't leave until the grand cleric is out of danger.
Sebastian: And the only way to ensure that is if every mage in Kirkwall is locked safely in the Circle. Or dead. I might have questioned that once, but I've learned a lot from you, Hawke. If you act with a true heart, in a nobel cause, it doesn't matter what it takes to succeed. 

The other one, (my personal favorite, it seems the most in-character for how he acts around my Hawke in headcanon, plus...he's right. They're all kinda ****wads.) the middle choice:

"The mages aren't your concern"
Hawke: Focus on Starkhaven.  Your enemies are there, not here.
Sebastian: I know you have sympathy for the rebels, but surely you must see that they can't win. Frankly, both sides are despicable. I wouldn't leave her Grace at the mercy of either.  But it will be over soon, one way or another.

Modifié par zikadee, 26 avril 2011 - 05:05 .


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tehprincessJ

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Look, guys http://dragonage.bio....com/da2/addon/ NEW STUFFS!!!
The rogue pack says it has new gear for Sebastian. Posted Image Will be buying that one as well as the Mage pack; I'll come back here and give you my thoughts after a bit.

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I love Sebastian, too :)

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tehprincessJ

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So... I bought all 3 packs for 5 bucks. I haven't had a chance to play around with all of it yet, but as far as Sebastian goes: there's a really nice bow called "Hood's Message to the King". The stats are really good, and it's rather neat looking. Now, I just need to get over that weird quirk of mine where I don't like taking personal effects away... I'll hold on to grandpa's bow for you, I promise!

But no new armor for him, unfortunately. :(

And welcome Ashara!!!! <3

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tehprincessJ wrote...

So... I bought all 3 packs for 5 bucks. I haven't had a chance to play around with all of it yet, but as far as Sebastian goes: there's a really nice bow called "Hood's Message to the King". The stats are really good, and it's rather neat looking. Now, I just need to get over that weird quirk of mine where I don't like taking personal effects away... I'll hold on to grandpa's bow for you, I promise!

But no new armor for him, unfortunately. :(

And welcome Ashara!!!! <3


He does get an amulet called The Light that Pierces as well. But yeah, kind of disappointing

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tehprincessJ

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Ooh! +2 to all attributes and immunity to knockback. Yes, plz.

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zikadee wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

tehprincessJ wrote...

Yep. Questioning beliefs, and I was only romancing him. This was during the conversation in which he says "And perhaps one day we can make a more formal alliance between the Viscountess of Kirkwall and the Prince of Starkhaven."

I suppose his core beliefs are still there and he's just way more brutal about it. But I for one, prefer him when he says, "Frankly, both sides are despicable."


See, that's exceedingly weird.  He says that line to my Hawke, on the rivalry path.  And the worst thing he says is that he wants to put down the mage revellion and reassert the Chantry's hold.  I guess he says different things if you romance him?  But it's weird that his lines are more ruthless to a ROMANCED Hawke on the rivalry path than to an unromanced :?


Lemme just pull out my Sebastian dialogue maps, woop woop woop.:bandit:

It's a result of which choice you pick on the wheel after he tells you he's going back to Starkhaven.  The "Circle or DEATH" thing comes from the top option.


Thanks, Sia.  Good to know.  My Hawke picked the middle dialogue because she was like, "Um, since you and I are friends, please go back to Starkhaven before we come to blows over the mages."

THAT WORKED WELL <_<

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tehprincessJ wrote...

Look, guys http://dragonage.bio....com/da2/addon/ NEW STUFFS!!!
The rogue pack says it has new gear for Sebastian. Posted Image Will be buying that one as well as the Mage pack; I'll come back here and give you my thoughts after a bit.


FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!! -explodes- YYEEESSS!!!! finallyy! I missed that part about seb, all I found was an item pack, I didn't read the new seb stuff... YEES!! Something to take part of the edge until a new story DLC comes out...

*___* My dlc anticipation has been stated.. for now...

COME NOW PEOPLES! LET'S WHISK OUR SELVES AWAY INTO 5-8 MONTHS INTO THE FUTURE UNTIL THE EXPANSION PACK COMES OUT!

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Quick question. I know that Sebastian's romance is described as a "chaste" romance. But is a kiss also excluded from the romance? Thanks in advance. :)

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1. I now know why I always confused seb with nathan

2. @Jade, nope... Not even a FREAKING KISS!!! He TOUCHES YOUR SHOULDER! ASLDFKASJFDL! XDDD (I like playing on that gimic) And he can barely spit an ILY out at the end! XDDDD Ah.... Well, can't complain too much with a DLC Character!

Heres a vid for it.. thats about as close as you get! XDDD

Modifié par MoMan313, 27 avril 2011 - 03:24 .


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tehprincessJ

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Sebastian didn't speak up when I was propositioned by Zevran.

So I totally went for it.

Only while playing with my rival-manced Seb. But I still have guilt...

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tehprincessJ wrote...

Sebastian didn't speak up when I was propositioned by Zevran.

So I totally went for it.

Only while playing with my rival-manced Seb. But I still have guilt...


Well, rival-manced Seb doesn't do his weird marriage proposal.  So technically, you're free and clear :D

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Sable Rhapsody wrote...

tehprincessJ wrote...

Sebastian didn't speak up when I was propositioned by Zevran.

So I totally went for it.

Only while playing with my rival-manced Seb. But I still have guilt...


Well, rival-manced Seb doesn't do his weird marriage proposal.  So technically, you're free and clear :D


Ha ha ha    =)     good to know. Haven't gotten to Act 3 yet but it's good for my little F!Hawke who rivalmances Sebastian to know that she's free and clear. Not that she's planning anything  ... *ahem*    =)

Gonna have to look at that dlc tonight when I get home from work and thanks guys for showing a good alternativ for how to handle the mages without sounding like a complete douche. I usually always side with the mages, I'm just doing the templar-thing because of Sebastian. The things he makes me do, *sigh*   and the things I would like to do.... Well, that's for DA3 hopefully    =)

edit: Just wanted to ask. Leandra has died and I've seen people mention that Sebastian does something kind in the chantry, blessing her memory or something like that. How do I trigger that or hear that. When ever I take him to the chantry he says that his grandfather would be happy to see him having his bow. No biggie, it just sounded like a pretty sweet thing that he did so it would be nice to see it.

Modifié par SilentK, 27 avril 2011 - 11:51 .


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SilentK wrote...

edit: Just wanted to ask. Leandra has died and I've seen people mention that Sebastian does something kind in the chantry, blessing her memory or something like that. How do I trigger that or hear that. When ever I take him to the chantry he says that his grandfather would be happy to see him having his bow. No biggie, it just sounded like a pretty sweet thing that he did so it would be nice to see it.


Just add Sebastian to your party and click on him. Outside the chantry. Posted Image

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MoMan313 wrote...

1. I now know why I always confused seb with nathan

2. @Jade, nope... Not even a FREAKING KISS!!! He TOUCHES YOUR SHOULDER! ASLDFKASJFDL! XDDD (I like playing on that gimic) And he can barely spit an ILY out at the end! XDDDD Ah.... Well, can't complain too much with a DLC Character!

Heres a vid for it.. thats about as close as you get! XDDD


Ah, Nathaniel...thinking about him makes it a little bit easier to accept Sebastian's "romance". A little. I think the only thing even close to resembling a flirt with him in Awakening was a trigger in the Blackmarsh where you can say something like, "You wanted to be a hero? That's cute." Don't know what it is about archers...

As for the "shoulder touch"...I would have completely content were it a slight shift in gesture. Perhaps he could put his has on Hawke's face or lift her chin up to make her look directly in his eyes. Or he could have gripped each shoulder, to convey the gravity of his proposition. Little things can make a big difference.

But yeah, DLC...I really do hate coming back to that. He is an enjoyable character and I don't want to think less of him for it. I could argue that all the love interests suffer a bit because you can't have extended conversations like you could in Origins, so that problem for Sebastian is magnified.


SilentK wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

tehprincessJ wrote...

Sebastian didn't speak up when I was propositioned by Zevran.

So I totally went for it.

Only while playing with my rival-manced Seb. But I still have guilt...


Well, rival-manced Seb doesn't do his weird marriage proposal.  So technically, you're free and clear :D


Ha ha ha    =)     good to know. Haven't gotten to Act 3 yet but it's good for my little F!Hawke who rivalmances Sebastian to know that she's free and clear. Not that she's planning anything  ... *ahem*    =)

Gonna have to look at that dlc tonight when I get home from work and thanks guys for showing a good alternativ for how to handle the mages without sounding like a complete douche. I usually always side with the mages, I'm just doing the templar-thing because of Sebastian. The things he makes me do, *sigh*   and the things I would like to do.... Well, that's for DA3 hopefully    =)


Hey, there's still DLC. Don't want to get my hopes too high, but it's too soon to rule anything out.

I'm afraid I already know the answer, but...did anyone else find the whole chaste marriage thing to be...sweet? Not practical, but...he says you mean the world to him and nothing will come between you...I'm just conflicted between friendmance and rivalmance because it seems we have to chose between a connection and (alluded) consummation. Of course, considering what happens at the end...maybe if we get our way, whichever one we chose, the other will follow.

SilentK wrote...
edit: Just wanted to ask. Leandra has died and I've seen people mention that Sebastian does something kind in the chantry, blessing her memory or something like that. How do I trigger that or hear that. When ever I take him to the chantry he says that his grandfather would be happy to see him having his bow. No biggie, it just sounded like a pretty sweet thing that he did so it would be nice to see it.


It's something he says when you click/pressX/pessA on him while he's in your party. I had him in the barracks when he said that...funny, he said something about Leandra, then I checked Anders and he said something...then I checked Merril and she said something about sparrows. Nice.

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Thank you =) then I'll get Sebastian out and about in town so I can hear that.

I'm still sort of hoping for dlc but it's biowares call. I think it's more likely for DA3. He is already a dlc to begin with. A dlc for the dlc =) it would be nice but I'm not holding my breath so to speak.

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tehprincessJ wrote..
And welcome Ashara!!!! <3


Thanks tehprincessJ :)

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Modifié par Ashara, 27 avril 2011 - 05:50 .


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tehprincessJ

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Eesh. I just don't see how some people can prefer modded Sebastian. He's rather perfect looking the way he is...

I really wish I could stand playing as a warrior, though. Your Hawke's armor is awesome.

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Sebastian screams his lungs out during battle cries doesn't he? XD

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8D thats because he gets PUMPED! /random
XDDDD sorry! I just had too!

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KyleTheArtist wrote...

Sebastian screams his lungs out during battle cries doesn't he? XD


Yes he does indeed. You also see a little bit of the hellion he used to be if you listen to his battle banter.

"I am that good aren't I?"
"Did you see that shot?!"
"This is way more exciting than the Chantry!"

Definitely not what I'd expect of a pious sort :innocent:

Although now that I think about it, there was only one dialog line he ever used that made me want to either laugh out loud or slap him, and that was when he refused to open a chest for me early in Act II. Otherwise the man could be reciting a shopping list and i'd be exstatic.

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tehprincessJ wrote...

Eesh. I just don't see how some people can prefer modded Sebastian. He's rather perfect looking the way he is...


yes, I love him just the way he is. :wub:

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KyleTheArtist wrote...
Sebastian screams his lungs out during battle cries doesn't he? XD

My brain went straight to other ... loud ... activities. :blush:

Modifié par klarabella, 28 avril 2011 - 09:16 .


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@ klarabella ! Well. Now that you mention it... ;)

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Vhardamis wrote...

Although now that I think about it, there was only one dialog line he ever used that made me want to either laugh out loud or slap him, and that was when he refused to open a chest for me early in Act II. Otherwise the man could be reciting a shopping list and i'd be exstatic.


Well, the freaking Kwisatz Haderach does voice him.  It helps :P

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 28 avril 2011 - 09:52 .