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[Ashwraith]

MoMan313 wrote...

Oh, he hunts them down via PC, lost sound files like in the nwn2 toolset you hear why cassy has left neverwinter for ophala.. (eeww... and he's an LI...) I like casy, but he's just too old for me D: (aka.. DOUBLE MY AGE.)

Mmmmmmmm, older men.
Goddammit, Orsino, you have ruined me. Anders who? Sebastian what? :U







(That said, I share your feelings on Casavir- I prefer my LIs with personality greater than that of a brick.)

EDIT: Crap, is it the top already?


(Aimo, of course.)

He has no idea.

EDIT: Ahhhh, hidden dialogue. Gotta love it.
Of course, this does bring to mind the one major thing about Sebastian that irritates the hell out of me- namely, that he storms off in a huff if you don't aquiesce to his petty revenge.
As much as I love Sebastian, and I do, there's no way in hell I'm going to kill my group healer for him.
I get attached to my companions. A lot. They're my nakama. There will be no shanking of my nakama.

Ah well. C'est la vie.

Modifié par Ashwraith, 12 mai 2011 - 06:37 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

Ashwraith wrote...

Mmmmmmmm, older men.
Goddammit, Orsino, you have ruined me. Anders who? Sebastian what? :U

(That said, I share your feelings on Casavir- I prefer my LIs with personality greater than that of a brick.)

LOL.  I like older men just fine, but I first played KOTOR when I was 16, and was first introduced to NWN when I was 17.  The respective male LIs for those games were 38 and roughly 40.  I understand the characters I'm playing are older, but I'm still the one picking the romantic dialogue options, and when it's grounds for statutory, creepy old LI is creepy no matter how you slice it.

MoMan313 wrote...

XDD looool! Varric's confused on how we could like sebby! XDDD
Its not that hard varric dear... He's just awesome like that!

From Varric's in-game banters, I think it's more that he just doesn't get Seb.  After all, Seb doesn't have a lovely crossbow!  How can he call himself an archer without a Bianca? 

[SilentK]

Yay for that endgame bit =) almost silly how happy it made me to hear it. So how does one that that in game, wait for some great modder to take pity on the Sebastian fans? I have zero talent in that departement =)

[ladyofpayne]

People tell my why you love Sebastian?

[tehprincessJ]

Because THE ORDER DICTATES? I don't know. You don't happen to be trolling, are you? You could flip back a few pages and see some discussion on the topic.

Main points?
He's handsome. He's got morals that I can hang with. He isn't crazy or self absorbed (like a certain mage - I KID, I KID), he's got an amazing voice, he's a reformed rake, and mostly:
he's pretty much forbidden.

But I can only speak for myself.

[rak72]

I didn't want to reply because it seemed like it would be feeding the troll, but pretty much what you said, tehprincessj. Plus he's kind & sweet with a simmering passion that burns beneath the surface.

[lywinis]

tehprincessJ wrote...

Because THE ORDER DICTATES? I don't know. You don't happen to be trolling, are you? You could flip back a few pages and see some discussion on the topic.

Main points?
He's handsome. He's got morals that I can hang with. He isn't crazy or self absorbed (like a certain mage - I KID, I KID), he's got an amazing voice, he's a reformed rake, and mostly:
he's pretty much forbidden.

But I can only speak for myself.

No, no, you hit on quite a few things I agree with, J. If they ARE trolling, well, I feel bad for them, because they're missing out on a character with a lot of potential. Sebastian has a lot of things that Anders didn't for me, even though I adore Anders.

Anders was my first DA2 romance. I've seen how that trainwreck ends, because I rode it out in my spoiler-free playthrough. Anders broke my heart. He will continue to break my heart, because I think he's a good character. Horribly broken, but that's part of the package, and it makes him fascinating.

Fenris never appealed to me, just like Zevran never appealed to me in Origins. I got over my elf phase when I got out of high school. Do I think he's a good character? Sure I do. Do I want to romance him? Not so much, but that doesn't mean I drop into the Fenris thread and jokingly ask why all the MEG girls like him. I get it, I do.

I'm just as irrational in my love for Sebastian, in that I've latched on to a character who's not nearly as fleshed out as the others. I honestly think that Sebastian is Hawke's best chance for a happy ending in a romance. Later on, when things settle down, there will be time for them to be happy. Fenris's romance is tinged with the hurt of him leaving; Anders's romance is touched the same way by his betrayal at the Chantry. Sebastian was up front with you from the start, and only if you encourage him to take responsibility for Starkhaven does he seem to see you as more than a potential ally. The chaste marriage seems to be a rushed thing, one that he steps into without thinking about it.  It's very much a Sebastian thing to do, however, the rushing into a decision part, so I can forgive him.

The tantalizing brush there of there being something more appeals to me. I like unfinished stories, and his is far from over.

TL;DR - If you're trolling, you're silly. If you're not, then the short answer is because he's likeable.

[randomcheeses]

Maybe because he's a heck of a lot more sane and relaxed than the other LIs, not to mention a genuinely nice guy? I dunno, it's just nice to have a LI whom you don't really have to 'fix' in some way.

[rak72]

That too, R.Cheesees

[SilentK]

I just did the last questioning beliefs with Sebastian on the rivalry side. Well, it was good to finally hear him sounding happy about going back to Starkhaven but I got a bit more of the political ally feeling than "omg, I am happy just to have you near me". It has been alot of chasing on my F!Hawkes side but I haven't gotten the feeling that Sebastian in completely in love with her. Hmm... maybe it's just that I haven't played around with his discussions enough to find the right lines for me. Hope that there will be an opportunity to continue with the relationship later on. He is great, just wish that he was a little more interested in my Hawke =)

[Master Shiori]

A few questions to all you Sebastian fans here:

1) How well is Sebastian's romance developed (compared to other LI's)?
2) Does he come to console Hawke after his/her mother is killed?
3) What, in your opinion, works better for Seb: friendship romance or rivalmance?

Thank you for the answers in advance.

[raziel1980]

Master Shiori wrote...

A few questions to all you Sebastian fans here:

1) How well is Sebastian's romance developed (compared to other LI's)?
2) Does he come to console Hawke after his/her mother is killed?
3) What, in your opinion, works better for Seb: friendship romance or rivalmance?

Thank you for the answers in advance.

1. His story is not finished...helper confirmed this earlier int his thread...so, their maybe more to his romance then what's given in the game...but comparibly, I'm not sure if he's on par with the others...though his reaction to your flirt lines are ridicously hilarious!

2. No, he doesn't...I'm guessing this wasn't implemented into the DLC upon release...maybe they will update this in a patch...that would be nice to see. He's also a straight LI so, unless you have a mod...he wouldn't show up for a male Hawke...

3. I would say rilvalmance is better...which oddly enough is the same as Fenris, whereas I like Isabella n Merrill far n away better as friend-mances...



To answer the other above...as male( a straight one at that) I like Sebastian if only for the fact that he doesn't quite seem to sort agenda that makes you wonder if he's outa his mind...though his mage hate in act 3 can be a bit annoying but even that is done in reason once you complete the 'faith' quest you can understand why he feels the way he does about mages...though sometimes when I play as a mage I wonder if he realizes that I'm a mage when he makes some of the comments he does( particularily when in the party with fenris...which is guranteed for me since I only play as female mages). I also find most of his banters to be funny as well...especially those with Merrill, Isabella and Varric. 

Modifié par raziel1980, 13 mai 2011 - 10:41 .

[Ashwraith]

I love his interactions with your party members, too. Aside from Isabela, I'd say he has the best banters in the entire game. An entertaining fellow, is Sebastian.
I may occasionally want to punch him in the face, true... but then again, there have been times when I've wanted to do that to my RL friends, too. (Hey, an unintentional rhyme!)

And I will never, ever, ever get the image of putting the names of the Divines in a miter out of my head.












Still not shanking my wingman for him, though.

Modifié par Ashwraith, 13 mai 2011 - 10:49 .

[raziel1980]

Ashwraith wrote...

I love his interactions with your party members, too. Aside from Isabela, I'd say he has the best banters in the entire game. An entertaining fellow, is Sebastian.
I may occasionally want to punch him in the face, true... but then again, there have been times when I've wanted to do that to my RL friends, too. (Hey, an unintentional rhyme!)

And I will never, ever, ever get the image of putting the names of the Divines in a miter out of my head.

That is probadly the most hilarious party banter in the entirer game...

Still not shanking my wingman for him, though.

That's where we differ I guess... I shank him every single time without mercy...but I won;t get into that here.

[Master Shiori]

raziel1980 wrote...

1. His story is not finished...helper confirmed this earlier int his thread...so, their maybe more to his romance then what's given in the game...but comparibly, I'm not sure if he's on par with the others...though his reaction to your flirt lines are ridicously hilarious!

2. No, he doesn't...I'm guessing this wasn't implemented into the DLC upon release...maybe they will update this in a patch...that would be nice to see. He's also a straight LI so, unless you have a mod...he wouldn't show up for a male Hawke...

3. I would say rilvalmance is better...which oddly enough is the same as Fenris, whereas I like Isabella n Merrill far n away better as friend-mances...

Thanks for the answers.

So, I shouldn't expect any romantic content with Sebastian outside of flirty lines.

Oh well, I still plan to romance him anyway. I'm romancing Anders on my newest Hawke and can barely stand him anymore. Sebastian, on the other hand, comes across as a much better match for my Hawke. At the very least his attitude is healthier.

[raziel1980]

Master Shiori wrote...

raziel1980 wrote...

1. His story is not finished...helper confirmed this earlier int his thread...so, their maybe more to his romance then what's given in the game...but comparibly, I'm not sure if he's on par with the others...though his reaction to your flirt lines are ridicously hilarious!

2. No, he doesn't...I'm guessing this wasn't implemented into the DLC upon release...maybe they will update this in a patch...that would be nice to see. He's also a straight LI so, unless you have a mod...he wouldn't show up for a male Hawke...

3. I would say rilvalmance is better...which oddly enough is the same as Fenris, whereas I like Isabella n Merrill far n away better as friend-mances...

Thanks for the answers.

So, I shouldn't expect any romantic content with Sebastian outside of flirty lines.

Oh well, I still plan to romance him anyway. I'm romancing Anders on my newest Hawke and can barely stand him anymore. Sebastian, on the other hand, comes across as a much better match for my Hawke. At the very least his attitude is healthier.

LOL! your welcome...and I understand completely how you feel...I've never done the anders-mance myself...and yeah, he's not very appealing to me or any of my Hawkes( I always rival him...so, boy when he tries to hit on you as a rival... that sends me running for the hills). 

[MoMan313]

for me? pbbbfft. He practically >__> <__< -looks to see if my bro's around- (I share his accounntt ;A; that's why I have a guy's username) -good! he's not around!-

He has EVERYTHING I like in a guy! Short of a few High IQ Points... Righteous, Religious, Reasonable, Pure (ok, secondary virgin pure), Noble, and has his hair slicked back like the way I TOTALLY dig.. *__*

Seriously. Bioware Filled out my fangirl list.. now.. =__= if only a dude existed like that in real life.. but.. T_T fat chance..

And I find my self liking EVERYTHING about him |D his suit... and his RAGE. *^*...
When he punched the elf in his recruitment quest... I was like "DAT PUNCH!!!" and "OOhoohhhoohoh I can see forreevvvveeerrrrr" -while clapping hands- but I was seriously SCREAMING with all the cheering at 1am and nearly woke up my entire house. DAM. The punch sold me hook and sinker..I knew I liked him before when they were selling the preorders for DA2... but now.. *__* he solidfied it in STONE.

Now, if DA3 comes out with a whole new set of LIs I will go -sigh- They're not seb, but I'll pick the best one I can.. or closet to it.... but it still won't be the sammee

But the fact that this pixel exists at all, outside of my head is a WIN.

I prefer the friendmance.. .__. because
1. I'm asexual and would rather die a virgin then have to do something the the dark ritual..
2. He actual sounds like he LIKES you in the friendmance..
3. He actual has the GUTS to ask you to marry you rather then wait, or run off AFTER you romance a character.. *cough* FENRIS YOU BET YO ASS I BE SPEAKING TO YOU!! *cough*

And you would think that after staying with anders after three years he would ask you to marry him.. Hell, my oldest half bro meet his now wife and dated her for 2-3 years before they got hitched!

Seriously >:I... Anders and Fenris have COMMITMENT issues! >:U

[GameBoyish]

What Sebastian would should have done after what Anders did...


(Varric Edition)

:wizard:MOAR stupid GIFs from yours truly

[motoko2000]

hahahahaaa!! awesome gif

[Master Shiori]

Haha!

If there was an option to sell Anders to Castillon, I'd jump at it.

[MoMan313]

>_> Comic XD;



shanasae deviantart

[randomcheeses]

So I'm curious, fellow Sebastian fans, when was the exact moment of the game that you decided that you liked him/he was your favourite character?

[tehprincessJ]

Either when he threw that punch at the Harimann estate or his adorable "I need to pray... a lot" when I used that first flirt line on him. I fell for him kind of early, I suppose.

[MoMan313]

Let's See.. I liked even before the game came out... he is the reason I even OWN this game..

Top moments:

1. Punch at the Estate
2. When he storms off when the chantry blows up
3. Arrow in the chanter's board. (this was the hook)

I like his religious type person thing.. because most overly religious people tell you all "PEACE AND LOVE~!" And "LET'S SOLVE THINGS PEACEFULLY!"

No, I like ACTION. If someone gives you crap, then give crap back!

Hmph.

Him, he takes VENGEANCE! RIGHTEOUS VENGEANCE! -w- Me and him are agreeable in that way~!

[lywinis]

randomcheeses wrote...

So I'm curious, fellow Sebastian fans, when was the exact moment of the game that you decided that you liked him/he was your favourite character?

When, during my Anders-romance, he called me into the Chantry to warn me about how manipulative Anders was (and he is, no offense Anders fans). It seemed like he had more on the brain than my well-being, and I loved the entire conversation. Anders was my spoiler-free play through, and I ended up hitting the wiki right afterward to research Sebastian.

He grew on me.