Xilizhra wrote...
When friended, he's fully cognizant of what he's doing... sorta. He and Justice fuse into a cohesive whole. He doesn't like the fact that he had to do it (there's a line about "there is nothing you can say to me that I have not already said to myself"), but accepts its necessity. There's an option to say you might have understood if he'd just told you; he responds by saying he wanted to, but was afraid that you'd try to stop him, or worse, that you'd try to help.
This is all presuming that what Anders did was definetely the right thing to do. It is very, very difficult to find right and wrong in this series. One of the few things I actually agreed with Isabela on was in a banter she and Anders had--if Anders reaches his goal, lots of people would die. Do they not deserve justice? Who is Anders that he gets to decide it's the right thing to do?
He accepts that he thinks it's necessary. This "cohesive whole" could very well be an abomination; even if it's not, it could happen at any time. Is it even Justice he's completely bonded with? Maybe it's Vengeance. Maybe it's been Vengeance the whole time.
You may have a Hawke that's totally fine with what he did, and you yourself may approve. But if he did something like this out on his own once, what's stopping him from doing it again and again? Why does he even need you if he only needs his own approval? Based on my playthough, he only needed me as a sucker.
I know a lot of people are critical of Sebastian's often fickle behavior, the infamous "waffling". If I can try to justify it...it means he's always looking for the right thing to do. Anders, on the other hand, is so sure something is right he won't listen to anything else. Not even reason. It could be seen as good, I suppose, he's sticking to his guns, if nothing else. But to be so focused on one thing, when not even willing to consider other possibilities...what does that say about his views if he can't take opposition?
Xilizhra wrote...
I don't believe his threat about an army, but am not that happy about him running off in any case, though I know why he did it.
Well, that's yet to be seen. Sad thing is, if he does go through with it, he'll be doing the exact opposite of what Grand Cleric Elthina wanted. Of course, if he doesn't, that just continues the idea that he's fickle. I don't think he'll do nothing, though; even if you do kill Anders, he says "It will never be enough, but it's a start,". Again, not a mage-friendly thing to say, I realize, but I think that anger is more directed at Anders, and any lingering anger at mages altogether would fade with time.
The ultimatum is somewhat similar to Alistair with killing or sparing Loghain...yes, you can be mad with the "it's you or me" approach, but...it's just insensitive to not see their position. Anders and Loghain, for all their intentions, did something they did not necessarily have to do, and because of it, the respected prince lost someone they cared deeply for. The other party members never interfere because their not invested like they are. This is all the worse if you attempt to befriend Alistair and Sebastian; to support them up until one point just because it is an inconvenience
to you? So while it is difficult to chose one character over the other, it's not unheard of.
Xilizhra wrote...
When you talk to her in the Gallows, at the end of her conversation, after Hawke says she never wanted to mess up her life, Aveline says "Hawke? It's worth it. Let's go bust some heads like the old days." And Fenris gives you a Tevinter battle salute after saying with some admiration how strange the places Hawke leads him are.
Aveline says about the same thing if you side with the Templars. There's nothing all that specific to mages in those words. And really, it shows that these characters are doing it for Hawke since he/she took the time to support them enough, not because they're particularly passionate about the cause. Anders hardly does anything for Hawke, not primarily anyway. He has his own drive and reasons. Sebastian sometimes cries in battle, "For Starkhaven! For Hawke!" and in his codex it says he was aiming to stay in Kirkwall for as long as Hawke needed him.
Xilizhra wrote...
Mages need structure, but the Chantry should have nothing whatsoever to do with it. Could I trust Sebastian with that?
That's not concrete; who's to say the relationship between Chantry and the Circle can't be fixed, instead of just forgotten? Sebastian, I think, would be with you as long as the Chantry itself is not in any danger. If he's a rival, making Starkhaven the bigger concern, he might be even more willing for compromise.
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