2724 réponses à ce sujet

[silentstephi]

Rivaling Merril is actually a lot easier than I originally thought it to be. My Mage is pretty good at it,actually. She's to the point where I have her rivaling Anders and Merril because of their respective 'demon laden' paths. Friending Fenris is a breeze comparitively.

I find rivaling Fenris to be REALLY tough actually. Small acts of kindness will still garner him friendship points, so you can be pro mage and still not get his bar to max. This PT, he's the only one I haven't been able to max out at the end of Act 2.

Sebastian initially was hard to rival because he was in the same boat as Fenris: small acts of kindness would tip him back the other way. But then I learned which quests not to bring him on, and it works out well.

I've never tried rivaling Isabela. I should, one of these times. It's a lot harder when you're a snarker, or diplomatic. Though when you're aggressive Varric's rivalry is pretty easy to get. It's funny.

Oh hey top of the page.  More adventures in modding!

Modifié par silentstephi, 11 août 2011 - 03:19 .

[john-in-france]

silentstephi wrote...

Rivaling Merril is actually a lot easier than I originally thought it to be. My Mage is pretty good at it,actually. She's to the point where I have her rivaling Anders and Merril because of their respective 'demon laden' paths. Friending Fenris is a breeze comparitively.

I find rivaling Fenris to be REALLY tough actually. Small acts of kindness will still garner him friendship points, so you can be pro mage and still not get his bar to max. This PT, he's the only one I haven't been able to max out at the end of Act 2.

Sebastian initially was hard to rival because he was in the same boat as Fenris: small acts of kindness would tip him back the other way. But then I learned which quests not to bring him on, and it works out well.

I've never tried rivaling Isabela. I should, one of these times. It's a lot harder when you're a snarker, or diplomatic. Though when you're aggressive Varric's rivalry is pretty easy to get. It's funny.

Oh hey top of the page.  More adventures in modding!

I think I'm just not that Hawke, so shall just grit my teeth until the end. Aggressive Hawke - not. Sadly this normally means a huge hiatus in play at some point, when I run off and start another game...

I just realised that my last playthrough got me to siding more than 5 times with the Templar and 5 times with the Mages.

Sooooo, pretty please, post the photo in .jpeg I'd love to play wiin Photoshop, but I only have an old version and can not import .png That is of course assuming that you don't mind me playing with your photo.

[silentstephi]

I find the more direct paths to be the more fun. It's why Renegade is my favorite play style ever. X3 Most folks I know though are hopeless Paragons. XD

And sure, here's the .jpg if you want to mess around with pictures. I does not care. XD

Thinking about it, I should probably take these things in .jpg to save space... but you kinda lose that mentality when you have a TB to play with... /whistles

Also, thing about rivalry and being the agressive Hawke: There are times where I really wish it wasn't so... amoral, but I'm still glad BW gives you the option. You can play a hard ass that has that little nugget heart of gold, showing folks one thing but meaning another.

I have yet to have a PT where everyone is Friend or Rival. Probably something to work on eventually. XD

[john-in-france]

silentstephi wrote...

I find the more direct paths to be the more fun. It's why Renegade is my favorite play style ever. X3 Most folks I know though are hopeless Paragons. XD

And sure, here's the .jpg if you want to mess around with pictures. I does not care. XD

Thinking about it, I should probably take these things in .jpg to save space... but you kinda lose that mentality when you have a TB to play with... /whistles

Also, thing about rivalry and being the agressive Hawke: There are times where I really wish it wasn't so... amoral, but I'm still glad BW gives you the option. You can play a hard ass that has that little nugget heart of gold, showing folks one thing but meaning another.

I have yet to have a PT where everyone is Friend or Rival. Probably something to work on eventually. XD

Thank you!

Is that Xnalara you are playing with? If so there are some great body imports in the SSG group on DeviantArt, just thought you might be interested.

I have friendshipped all party members, and it is a little boring, just as I suspect a totally Rivalled party would be. I normally Rival Merrill and Anders.

No, I'm not a Paragon, I tend to swop between diplomatic and sarcastic, with aggressive in the necessary places.

[john-in-france]

Rak 72

I agree with you on that Elthina thread. At least we can stand back to back.

[silentstephi]

Nah, the mod I was using to have armor on was Constant Vigilance. Makes for some neat pictures.

I have yet to figure out how to put a human body onto an elf on though... at least successfully. : /
I get floating heads instead. Kind of disconcerting.

Maybe I'm just a PITA, but I always found the diplomatic options to be a bit boring. Granted, some of the sarcastic ones have you scratching your head (bad jokes), but I found that in the ME system, the Paragon's at least got someone good at times (IE, it's not the diplomatic way to handle it, but it is a BAMF way to go!)

[rak72]

john-in-france wrote...

Rak 72

I agree with you on that Elthina thread. At least we can stand back to back.

fist bump

[Ellyria]

I have yet to have a PT where everyone is Friend or Rival. Probably something to work on eventually. XD

I had a few PTs where everyone was maxed out friendship... and it's weird. If you rival Anders, he assumes you're a templar lover, even if you're not. Which is the case with everyone (except Sebastian, which is nice), they assume that you're on the opposite side of what they stand for, even though you might not be. So when I friended everyone, and sided with the mages, Fenris always being happy at my templar-loving ways made no sense. 

silentstephi wrote...

I find the more direct paths to be the more fun. It's why Renegade is my favorite play style ever. X3 Most folks I know though are hopeless Paragons. XD

silentstephi wrote...

Maybe I'm just a PITA, but I always found the diplomatic options to be a bit boring. Granted, some of the sarcastic ones have you scratching your head (bad jokes), but I found that in the ME system, the Paragon's at least got someone good at times (IE, it's not the diplomatic way to handle it, but it is a BAMF way to go!)

If you could just play however you wanted in ME without trying to get Renegade/Paragon points to boost dialogue choices, I'd gladly play Neutral with a mix of Paragon/Renegade. (hence why I like DA more, you can say whatever you want and it only affects influence/personality) But, in order to get the "best" options, you need to be straight Paragon/Renegade, which is why morality bars suck! I find "complete jerks" and "diplomatic saints" to be very cliché and boring, but in KoTOR and ME you pretty much HAVE to be one or the other, otherwise you end up missing out on bonuses that you only get for being extreme light/dark/paragon/renegade/etc. I think DA has it right, using influence bars and not morality bars.

[silentstephi]

Silly question: Will sleeping with Zevran mess up any romance between Hawke and Sebastian?

This is for abject curiosity reasons. x3
From what the wiki says, Seb just gains some rivalry out of the deal but doesn't have a jealousy reaction like the other romances (baring Isa.)

Also @Chyslie: I think morality systems can be fun, but the good vs evil ones are the boring type.  So far, out of all of them, I like Bioware's take on things the most.  It's not perfect, but when it comes to morality, no body is. XD

Modifié par silentstephi, 11 août 2011 - 08:20 .

[john-in-france]

rak72 wrote...

john-in-france wrote...

Rak 72

I agree with you on that Elthina thread. At least we can stand back to back.

fist bump

I think they have lost the plot...and not just the game one.

Do you think that we played the same game, or are we lost in an alternate real life universe?

Is it an age gap thing...

[john-in-france]

silentstephi wrote...

Silly question: Will sleeping with Zevran mess up any romance between Hawke and Sebastian?

This is for abject curiosity reasons. x3
From what the wiki says, Seb just gains some rivalry out of the deal but doesn't have a jealousy reaction like the other romances (baring Isa.)

Also @Chyslie: I think morality systems can be fun, but the good vs evil ones are the boring type.  So far, out of all of them, I like Bioware's take on things the most.  It's not perfect, but when it comes to morality, no body is. XD

Not sure but since we can't flirt with even Aveline and Varric, possibly a bad idea. You don't see anything, just walk off screen.

Judy

[silentstephi]

john-in-france wrote...

silentstephi wrote...

Silly question: Will sleeping with Zevran mess up any romance between Hawke and Sebastian?

This is for abject curiosity reasons. x3
From what the wiki says, Seb just gains some rivalry out of the deal but doesn't have a jealousy reaction like the other romances (baring Isa.)

Also @Chyslie: I think morality systems can be fun, but the good vs evil ones are the boring type.  So far, out of all of them, I like Bioware's take on things the most.  It's not perfect, but when it comes to morality, no body is. XD

Not sure but since we can't flirt with even Aveline and Varric, possibly a bad idea. You don't see anything, just walk off screen.

Judy

Oh I've done the scene before, I was just curious what happens with Sebastian.

I accidentally flirted once with Ave and still got the Rivalmance conversation with Sebastian.  Maybe you can't keep flirting with Ave all the time?  She didn't kiss me at least. XD

[john-in-france]

silentstephi wrote...

john-in-france wrote...

silentstephi wrote...

Silly question: Will sleeping with Zevran mess up any romance between Hawke and Sebastian?

This is for abject curiosity reasons. x3
From what the wiki says, Seb just gains some rivalry out of the deal but doesn't have a jealousy reaction like the other romances (baring Isa.)

Also @Chyslie: I think morality systems can be fun, but the good vs evil ones are the boring type.  So far, out of all of them, I like Bioware's take on things the most.  It's not perfect, but when it comes to morality, no body is. XD

Not sure but since we can't flirt with even Aveline and Varric, possibly a bad idea. You don't see anything, just walk off screen.

Judy

Oh I've done the scene before, I was just curious what happens with Sebastian.

I accidentally flirted once with Ave and still got the Rivalmance conversation with Sebastian.  Maybe you can't keep flirting with Ave all the time?  She didn't kiss me at least. XD

The party comments are normally amusing. When Isabela goes off with Zevran, Sebastian and Varric are hilarious on their speculations about her morals...or should I say lack of them. Maybe better for Rivalled Sebastian.

[john-in-france]

repeat post due to me being stupid...

Modifié par john-in-france, 11 août 2011 - 08:41 .

[john-in-france]

john-in-france wrote...

No mention in the Wiki for or against romanced Sebastian issues with Zevran. Other than the standard, thou shalt not flirt with any other character sentence under Sebastian.

[rak72]

I accidentally flirted with Varric once. It was before Seb was in the party. It worked out in the end. I never heard any of his zev banter.

[Chignon]

Credit goes to HonestLies on dA.

[randomcheeses]

Sebastian doesn't say anything to Zevran.Though I don't know whether or not if it kills the romance if you take Zev up on his offer.

[silentstephi]

Erring on the side of caution for now. Though the exchange between Sebastian and Anders about Isa is amusing.

[Sepewrath]

Quick question, what happens at the end of the game, if you don't recruit Sebastian? Is he just not there at the end when the whole Chantry thing goes down, or does he show up anyway?

[berelinde]

He isn't there. If he has ever been in the selection screen, he is there, but if he has never been recruited, he is not. He is also not present in the Chantry, so his precise location is unknown. It is possible to complete the Act 1 quests without recruiting Sebastian.

[Sepewrath]

I would guess he's trying to deal with the Starkhaven thing alone. Seems like a logical choice he would make, without the aid of Hawke, he initially stuck around because he joined your party and then started doubting himself, because of Elthina's meddling lol. Without that, I would assume he went back to Starkhaven.

[syllogi]

Oh man. If Sebastian doesn't get the closure of avenging his family's deaths, and then he has to see his only home destroyed and surrogate mother murdered...

I imagine that would be a very bitter, angry Sebastian.

[Illusionary Ennui]

(*jumps in* I normally stay out of these threads... but I can't help myself...)

*missed out on Sebastian in her first playthrough* I'm ashamed.

But I did like the banter between Sebastian and Fenris as Isabela walked off with Zevran... the look they give one another before they turn to shake their heads at those two made me laugh.

@TeenZombie - It's easy to imagine, given his temperament.

Modifié par Illusionary Ennui, 12 août 2011 - 02:04 .

[rak72]

Oo. maybe the Harrimans had him killed too. But not likely since his story isn't done. He must be more efficient w/o Hawk around & went to SH to take care of things.