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[silentstephi]

Yea Alec Newman needs more voice work. I could listen to him for hours.

And why am I up at 5am? Oh right, I didn't sleep the night before... I'M IN THE ZONE. -.-

TOP OF THE MORNINGPAGE!


I need sleep... but I'm so close to finished x.x

Modifié par silentstephi, 13 août 2011 - 09:18 .

[john-in-france]

So is there a story to go with the pictures?

Also, exactly how do you manage to keep getting at the top? It is a conspiracy

I hope that you are wrong about Sebastians DLC being a re-worked Nathaniel one. Just saying so, not to be negative about your post, but a re-work will mean no resolution to the LI issue...

If Prince Sebastian ends up marrying Empress Celene of Orlais in DA3...bad.....

My brain hurts...need coffee.

[rak72]

I think any major starkhaven stuff needs to be an expansion, not a DLC

Seb & Celene .... no,no,no.
I literally will drop DA cold if that happens

[john-in-france]

rak72 wrote...

I think any major starkhaven stuff needs to be an expansion, not a DLC

Seb & Celene .... no,no,no.
I literally will drop DA cold if that happens

My thoughts exactly, at least 10 hours of real gameplay for Starkhaven, not Legacys 2 and a half.

I just hope that we don't have to wait 3 years for DA3 to find out!

Anyway, for a change I'm going to play Legacy within Act 3 this time and see how it behaves. Afternoon playtime has begun...catch you all later!

Judy

[Chignon]

I'll be glad if we get something.

[Nhadalie]

It's not that it was reworked from a Nathaniel one. It's that they originally considered having a Nathaniel DLC, then scrapped it in favor of Sebby because Nathaniel can die in Awakening.(The idea of Sebby's content being a mirror image of Nathaniel's is ridiculous.. They're completely different characters. They may have some similarities, but the content would've been completely different if they had gone with Nathaniel instead.)


Which is rather.. Strange reasoning, considering they kept Anders around despite him "dying", and Leliana around too.


The Nathaniel/Sebastian DLC comment was mentioned on another forum I frequent. Along with a few other things, like the fact that Danarius did indeed rape Fenris.

All of this information came from some cosplayers that apparently got to talk to Gaider about DA2.

I'm not sure if Starkhaven should be a full expansion, or a DLC. It'd feel a little weird to give a DLC character's story in an expansion, especially for people who haven't bought Sebby. But on the other hand, I think it'd be a little too complicated taking back Starkhaven for it to be just a DLC.

Modifié par Nhadalie, 13 août 2011 - 03:27 .

[LessThanKate]

john-in-france wrote...

Sebastian has a very pleasant Lowland sounding Scottish accent, to my ear. Similar to Johns, so I'd put the actor as originating somewhere around the Glasgow outskirts /Ayrshire area. I haven't checked....must go and do so. Hold on a sec...Bingo! Alec Newman born in Glasgow, raised in Scotland and England.

Judy

Awww yeah.

And I was...concerned about the revelation that Sebastian's story was supposed to focus on Nathaniel instead...or something. I was afriad to investigate it further, as I was sure all I'd hear was, "We could've had Nathaniel instead of that preachy evangelist? Ffffuuuu!" (and yes, I have seen people call him that). Plus, as much as I like Nathaniel (more than Anders, really) having so many Awakening characters while isolating the rest. Finally...there's only so much retcon I can forgive.

I knew Sebastian was a composite character, there's definetely some similarities to Nathaniel that can't be overlooked. But for every similarity, there's a stark difference. That makes me think Sebastian's character was very much on purpose. Nathaniel may have been a Chantry supporter and didn't always get along with Anders...but not to the point that he would ever want him dead.

john-in-france wrote...

If Prince Sebastian ends up marrying Empress Celene of Orlais in DA3...bad.....

My brain hurts...need coffee.

Wait, what? Sebastian and...the Empress of Orlais?



Sebastian doesn't need some frilly fantasy-frenchwoman! He needs a real woman! Someone whose been around, who gets stuff done! The very idea! It's...backwards!

Modifié par LessThanKate, 13 août 2011 - 05:28 .

[Xilizhra]

I suspect I may have brought this up already, but... could Sebastian be trusted to throw Starkhaven's support behind the mages if Anders was killed? He's willing to side with the mages by rationalizing it that Andraste wouldn't want the Circle to become a prison/torture chamber, but that seems more like an opposition to Kirkwall. He seems ideologically unreliable.

[rak72]

Xilizhra wrote...

I suspect I may have brought this up already, but... could Sebastian be trusted to throw Starkhaven's support behind the mages if Anders was killed? He's willing to side with the mages by rationalizing it that Andraste wouldn't want the Circle to become a prison/torture chamber, but that seems more like an opposition to Kirkwall. He seems ideologically unreliable.

I think if Anders was dead, he would be able to look at the situation objectivly and side with the group he felt was being treated unjustly.  Which group would tha be - IDK.  I think by the time that comes up, both sides are going to beup to some pretty bad stuff.  Maybe it will depend on your Hawk & what Sebs relationship was with her/him.

Modifié par rak72, 13 août 2011 - 05:57 .

[Xilizhra]

Full rivalry, while I romanced Merrill.

I do think it's interesting that rivalSebastian is never actually mad at Hawke about anything; it's all about two different passions, not about encouraging or discouraging one passion.

[Chignon]

I agree with rak. It is also good to remember that his first concern will always be Starkhaven and its people.

Modifié par Chignon, 13 août 2011 - 06:00 .

[rak72]

I think if Hawk has him maxed either way, Hawk will be able to influence him.

[Xilizhra]

Chignon wrote...

I agree with rak. It is also good to remember that his first concern will always be Starkhaven and its people.

Let's hope that it stays that way and doesn't become destroying Kirkwall. Though sometimes I wonder if that may not be such a bad thing; it's a giant Tevinter sacrificial glyph and a major templar base, so...

[rak72]

I think if Anders isn't killed, he might go Ape sh*t crazy and Kirkwall is going down (or that is his plan).

[Chignon]

I don't know. He isn't thinking rationally in the scene and pretty much flying off the handle. Once he'd calmed down, I don't think his first order after retaking Starkhaven would be razing Kirkwall into the ground. There's no need for it and Anders would be long gone by then.

[john-in-france]

I was going to say the same.

Anders dead:

Rivalled Prince Sebastian is more likely to side with the mages, if Hawke does so, is a mage and is LI. If not LI then I would guess that Starkhaven comes first.

I can't really see Brother Sebastian doing so, as soon as the Divine calls the faithful, then he is more likely to become a Seeker as suggested by the end dialogue where it says that Brothers and Sisters left the Chantry to join the Seekers. Hawke and Sebastian would answer the call together if LI.

Just guessing.

The safest place to go is Ferelden, Alistair has already pledged support to apostates.

Modifié par john-in-france, 13 août 2011 - 06:08 .

[Xilizhra]

Well, drat. It'd be politically advantageous to romance Sebastian, but I could never do that.

Anders'll probably be more useful in the end. Certainly more reliable.

[john-in-france]

Chignon wrote...

I don't know. He isn't thinking rationally in the scene and pretty much flying off the handle. Once he'd calmed down, I don't think his first order after retaking Starkhaven would be razing Kirkwall into the ground. There's no need for it and Anders would be long gone by then.

Let me say that Biowares love for plot bites in the backside...Rivalled Sebastian may go totally nuts and really trash the whole Free Marches going after those responsible. Just because they like turning sane people into Dark Sides. Exalted March with no pity...I feel ill just thinking about it.

[john-in-france]

Xilizhra wrote...

Well, drat. It'd be politically advantageous to romance Sebastian, but I could never do that.

Anders'll probably be more useful in the end. Certainly more reliable.

They keep throwing those plot twists at us...it strikes me as mildly amusing that the safest LI for a mage is ...Sebastian. He would die to protect his Hawke.

edited: spelling

Modifié par john-in-france, 13 août 2011 - 06:18 .

[silentstephi]

Sooooo it's done.

FINALLY.

All this awesome back and forth about the Starkhaven Prince... here's what I did with him with all those modding adventures!
Drumming Song - Sebastian and Hawke FMV

Be gentle. It's my first Dragon Age video. -.-

[Xilizhra]

john-in-france wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Well, drat. It'd be politically advantageous to romance Sebastian, but I could never do that.

Anders'll probably be more useful in the end. Certainly more reliable.

They keep throwing those plot twists at us...it strikes me as milding amusing that the safest LI for a mage is ...Sebastian. He would die to protect his Hawke.

Undoubtedly, but I'm not into men, and if I was, I'd probably be more into Anders.

[LessThanKate]

rak72 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I suspect I may have brought this up already, but... could Sebastian be trusted to throw Starkhaven's support behind the mages if Anders was killed? He's willing to side with the mages by rationalizing it that Andraste wouldn't want the Circle to become a prison/torture chamber, but that seems more like an opposition to Kirkwall. He seems ideologically unreliable.

I think if Anders was dead, he would be able to look at the situation objectivly and side with the group he felt was being treated unjustly.  Which group would tha be - IDK.  I think by the time that comes up, both sides are going to beup to some pretty bad stuff.  Maybe it will depend on your Hawk & what Sebs relationship was with her/him.

First playthrough I maxed out friendship with him and sided with the mages. Once I had killed Anders and taken control of my party again, he said something like, "I can't believe I'm doing this, but the knight-commander is out of control!" So it seems to be a combination of it being an exceptional case and Hawke's influence.

And like rak said, he's calmer once Anders is out of the picture. Even when in that state of fury, he doesn't care about the Rite of Annulment. He knows it wasn't the Circle that killed Elthina, but an apostate.

A rivaled Sebastian siding with Templars seems to transfer that anger, but at that point he's developed a whatever-it-takes attitude, so if Mages rebelling are in his way, then so be it.

[john-in-france]

Xilizhra wrote...

john-in-france wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Well, drat. It'd be politically advantageous to romance Sebastian, but I could never do that.

Anders'll probably be more useful in the end. Certainly more reliable.

They keep throwing those plot twists at us...it strikes me as milding amusing that the safest LI for a mage is ...Sebastian. He would die to protect his Hawke.

Undoubtedly, but I'm not into men, and if I was, I'd probably be more into Anders.

Sebastian isn't romanceable by men.

Judy.

[rak72]

silentstephi wrote...

Sooooo it's done.

FINALLY.

All this awesome back and forth about the Starkhaven Prince... here's what I did with him with all those modding adventures!
Drumming Song - Sebastian and Hawke FMV

Be gentle. It's my first Dragon Age video. -.-

Wow, that was very well done

[syllogi]

Xilizhra wrote...

Well, drat. It'd be politically advantageous to romance Sebastian, but I could never do that.

Anders'll probably be more useful in the end. Certainly more reliable.

I honestly don't know if Anders will be "reliable", even when it comes to mages, after the end of the game.  Vengeance has become more erratic, and Anders almost kills (or kills) Ella during Dissent.  Any sort of compromise or attempt to peacefully resolve the mage/templar war might be seen as a threat down the road.

Also consider that Orsino *should* have been a reliable mage ally.