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Chignon wrote...

Do the other LIs react?

I've only tried with Isabela and Merrill, but they reacted every time i flirted with Tallis while they were present. Don't know about Fenris and Anders, will have to do that sometime.

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TeenZombie wrote...

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Another question about things I don't understand - When you click on Hawks bed in the estate, Hawk says, " I told the prince not to sit on the bed". What does that mean?


:o  I ALWAYS get "Paw prints!!!  I told him not to sit on the bed!" referring to the dog.  Are you sure you're hearing it correctly, or is this another thing I've missed out on...


Oh, I'm laughing so hard at this.  I heard the Anders and the socks comment is pretty funny, but as I've always had Dog, I've never heard it.

Speaking of which, this was the deciding moment when I joined the Sebastian camp (although Anders, you're still cool)...

Compare:


With:


(Okay, I search YouTube....I swore there was an unmodded version somewhere.)

Anyways, I'm a confirmed dog person.  Looks like Vael is as well.  Ha!

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^ lol, I like his little bow at the end.

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TeenZombie wrote...

rak72 wrote...

Another question about things I don't understand - When you click on Hawks bed in the estate, Hawk says, " I told the prince not to sit on the bed". What does that mean?


:o  I ALWAYS get "Paw prints!!!  I told him not to sit on the bed!" referring to the dog.  Are you sure you're hearing it correctly, or is this another thing I've missed out on...


http://youtu.be/EnsOp7kO-WM?t=38s

I've tried everything and still get the "Paw prints".

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It is paw prints, I was just hearing "the prince"

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Jackalope wrote...

Speaking of which, this was the deciding moment when I joined the Sebastian camp (although Anders, you're still cool)...

Compare:


With:


Anyways, I'm a confirmed dog person.  Looks like Vael is as well.  Ha!


I am a dog person, too, but my character Kyra, who romanced Anders, liked seeing him acting so territorial ;)

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I don't know if this has been posted before, but I thought I'd share:

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evening : The Secret Meeting by ~mappeli

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So, I have a question for you guys. Which was more satisfying in your opinion: rival or friend romance? I think I read rivalry encourages him to take back Starkhaven, and friendship encourages him to stay strictly loyal to the Chantry? Beyond that, are there major changes in dialogue and behavior.

The only rivalry I had was with Merrill, (not romanced), and by the end our relationship was so cold and Merrill so hostile with me. I'm worried rival Sebastian may be angry with me constantly as well. But I suppose romancing him changes that?

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Celestina wrote...

So, I have a question for you guys. Which was more satisfying in your opinion: rival or friend romance? I think I read rivalry encourages him to take back Starkhaven, and friendship encourages him to stay strictly loyal to the Chantry? Beyond that, are there major changes in dialogue and behavior.

The only rivalry I had was with Merrill, (not romanced), and by the end our relationship was so cold and Merrill so hostile with me. I'm worried rival Sebastian may be angry with me constantly as well. But I suppose romancing him changes that?


No. Rivaling Sebastian, romanced or not does not make him cold towards you. He disagrees with you a bit, but he still respects you. As for the rival romance, it's not quite as finished as the friend romance and leaves a bit more up in the air at the end of the game, but since the chaste marriage isn't a lot of people's idea of a happy ending, rival-romance in at least one playthrough is worth it, just to see if it gets further developed in the future.

Plus it contains the immortal line "I will offer you no less than a prince."

*swoons*

Modifié par randomcheeses, 15 octobre 2011 - 01:36 .


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randomcheeses wrote...

Celestina wrote...

So, I have a question for you guys. Which was more satisfying in your opinion: rival or friend romance? I think I read rivalry encourages him to take back Starkhaven, and friendship encourages him to stay strictly loyal to the Chantry? Beyond that, are there major changes in dialogue and behavior.

The only rivalry I had was with Merrill, (not romanced), and by the end our relationship was so cold and Merrill so hostile with me. I'm worried rival Sebastian may be angry with me constantly as well. But I suppose romancing him changes that?


No. Rivaling Sebastian, romanced or not does not make him cold towards you. He disagrees with you a bit, but he still respects you. As for the rival romance, it's not quite as finished as the friend romance and leaves a bit more up in the air at the end of the game, but since the chaste marriage isn't a lot of people's idea of a happy ending, rival-romance in at least one playthrough is worth it, just to see if it gets further developed in the future.

Plus it contains the immortal line "I will offer you no less than a prince."

*swoons*


Adding my vote for the rivalry path, too. The only downside is that it hardly gets acknowledged by anyone. Except for Bethany, of course.

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Chignon wrote...

randomcheeses wrote...

Celestina wrote...

So, I have a question for you guys. Which was more satisfying in your opinion: rival or friend romance? I think I read rivalry encourages him to take back Starkhaven, and friendship encourages him to stay strictly loyal to the Chantry? Beyond that, are there major changes in dialogue and behavior.

The only rivalry I had was with Merrill, (not romanced), and by the end our relationship was so cold and Merrill so hostile with me. I'm worried rival Sebastian may be angry with me constantly as well. But I suppose romancing him changes that?


No. Rivaling Sebastian, romanced or not does not make him cold towards you. He disagrees with you a bit, but he still respects you. As for the rival romance, it's not quite as finished as the friend romance and leaves a bit more up in the air at the end of the game, but since the chaste marriage isn't a lot of people's idea of a happy ending, rival-romance in at least one playthrough is worth it, just to see if it gets further developed in the future.

Plus it contains the immortal line "I will offer you no less than a prince."

*swoons*


Adding my vote for the rivalry path, too. The only downside is that it hardly gets acknowledged by anyone. Except for Bethany, of course.


My one big concern was that there were no flags set post game for a rivalry flirtation, but Bethany's line in MotA was reassuring.

I choose to go rivalry with him for story reasons, because I think he needs to help Starkhaven find a suitable ruler, before he could be truly happy as a Chantry brother for the rest of his life, if that's what he wants.  Hearing about his cousin being a bad ruler would just throw him into doubt again, if that happens.

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On the friendship path Hawke actually gets married to him. You never see the wedding, but in Legacy he refers to his being Hawke's husband, making him Carver's brother. I didn't even realize they were actually married until his argument with Carver.

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Adynata wrote...

On the friendship path Hawke actually gets married to him. You never see the wedding, but in Legacy he refers to his being Hawke's husband, making him Carver's brother. I didn't even realize they were actually married until his argument with Carver.


So no marriage unless it's friendship? :(

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Chignon wrote...

randomcheeses wrote...

No. Rivaling Sebastian, romanced or not does not make him cold towards you. He disagrees with you a bit, but he still respects you. As for the rival romance, it's not quite as finished as the friend romance and leaves a bit more up in the air at the end of the game, but since the chaste marriage isn't a lot of people's idea of a happy ending, rival-romance in at least one playthrough is worth it, just to see if it gets further developed in the future.

Plus it contains the immortal line "I will offer you no less than a prince."

*swoons*


Adding my vote for the rivalry path, too. The only downside is that it hardly gets acknowledged by anyone. Except for Bethany, of course.


*swoons*  (And then drops to the ground)  He does have that effect, no?

Rival is easy to do.  I almost feel like it's the same for Merril.  Hawke disagrees with them, but it's for their own bloody good.  I mean, making Merril a rival is just telling her blood magic is wrong.  That doesn't make Hawke evil (and while she can be mean to Merril, it's nothing compared to Anders...I dropped my jaw at his comments).

(Plus:
Being in a nunnery <<<<<<<<<<<< Ruling TWO city-states)

My two cents about why the rivalmance may not be acknowledged: I don't think the 'alliace' has happened yet.  During one of the random conversations with Talis it sounds the Champion still isn't the proper Viscountess yet.  Probably because Seneshal Bran seems so slow with the paperwork.  He did seem so occupied in the DLC.  And since Sebastian is still there in Kirkwall, it looks like he's not technically the prince yet.

Dude, go get your city-state back.  Considering you took out that Avvar Sky mini-boss while the rest of my team was on the ground, I'm pretty sure you can handle it.

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Jackalope wrote...

My two cents about why the rivalmance may not be acknowledged: I don't think the 'alliace' has happened yet.  During one of the random conversations with Talis it sounds the Champion still isn't the proper Viscountess yet.  Probably because Seneshal Bran seems so slow with the paperwork.  He did seem so occupied in the DLC.  And since Sebastian is still there in Kirkwall, it looks like he's not technically the prince yet.

Dude, go get your city-state back.  Considering you took out that Avvar Sky mini-boss while the rest of my team was on the ground, I'm pretty sure you can handle it.


Jack, if I understand this correctly, all DLCs happen before the end of DA2, before the final battle. So there is no way for Hawke to be the viscountess or Sebastian to leave Kirkwall, yet. ;)

I know that this is not consistent with the fact that you don't have Anders or Sebastian in your party, depending on the choices done during the final battle, though.

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Oh, that makes more sense. I saw that Anders wasn't appearing on my team selection page so I assumed it was post-boom.

Also, I watched all the prison "rescue" dialogues. "Deliver us from this warren of evil?" First bunny rabbit clouds, and now evil warrens? Is Watership Down required reading in Starkhaven?

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Sebastian fan-girls of fan-girliness.

I come to you, as a woman of far less faith, for many opinions. I have an image in my mind of what Sebastian would become after DA2, without Hawke as a romance, and now i come to you, women, and possibly men, of greater mind than i.

Where do you see Sebastian after Dragon Age 2? How do you think the events of Kirkwall and his retaking of Starkhaven would shape him? How do you think his struggle regaining his city would eventually end?

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 17 octobre 2011 - 01:31 .


#2343
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I've never fully approved of Sebastian not being reckognised as a 'real romance', even by the games standards (Since you cannot get any of the LI related achievements going after him). He doesn't have much dialogue relating to the romance, unlike the other party members, nor does even he himself seem to acknowledge much of the romance with Hawke himself.

It feels a bit cheated and with everything Bioware/EA pulled relating to money and marketting with DA2, I can't help but feel that eventually, we're going to get a DLC with a 'Sleep with Sebastian' option for $15.

...The sad thing is, is that I'd buy that in a heart beat.

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LilyasAvalon wrote...

It feels a bit cheated and with everything Bioware/EA pulled relating to money and marketting with DA2, I can't help but feel that eventually, we're going to get a DLC with a 'Sleep with Sebastian' option for $15.

...The sad thing is, is that I'd buy that in a heart beat.


Lol Lilyas, I'd buy it, too! :D:wub:

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Ashara wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

It feels a bit cheated and with everything Bioware/EA pulled relating to money and marketting with DA2, I can't help but feel that eventually, we're going to get a DLC with a 'Sleep with Sebastian' option for $15.

...The sad thing is, is that I'd buy that in a heart beat.


Lol Lilyas, I'd buy it, too! :D:wub:


Thirded.

Wasn't one of the devs wearing a hangman shirt at PAX that was for Starkhaven? Hopefully both rivalmances and friendmances with Sebastian will come to a (somewhat) satisfying conclusion in said DLC.

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I think it was Mike Laidlaw, Chylise. The picture was posted a few pages back.

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Here's that post about the Starkhaven Hangman t-shirt:

TeenZombie wrote...

So...the PAX Starkhaven Hangman t-shirt was never mentioned in here??? Either I missed it in my lurking, or it was never posted: http://yfrog.com/kgy4vksj

It's got Crotch Andraste and everything!!!

A link to a thread about the Hangman t-shirts devs have been wearing to conventions, for more info: http://social.biowar...4/index/8217521



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I really hope they take the time to add more Sebastian romance content to future DLC. Even Tallis got more physical with Hawke than Sebastian! I have never done his romance, but I am holding off on doing another playthrough to see what is offered in future installments. *crosses fingers*

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I'd settle for a headbump...

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Chylise wrote...

Ashara wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

It feels a bit cheated and with everything Bioware/EA pulled relating to money and marketting with DA2, I can't help but feel that eventually, we're going to get a DLC with a 'Sleep with Sebastian' option for $15.

...The sad thing is, is that I'd buy that in a heart beat.


Lol Lilyas, I'd buy it, too! :D:wub:


Thirded.

Wasn't one of the devs wearing a hangman shirt at PAX that was for Starkhaven? Hopefully both rivalmances and friendmances with Sebastian will come to a (somewhat) satisfying conclusion in said DLC.

His writer, Jennifer Hepler, also confirmed that his story is 'not over yet' when Sebastian was first released.

If I can't sleep with him by the damnit, I DEMAND a kiss at least.