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[Chignon]

Well, of course not and understandably so. Which is why I said that once he had time to calm down, he'd reconsider his actions.

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By Velvetrue

Modifié par Chignon, 01 novembre 2011 - 01:34 .

[LessThanKate]

Xilizhra wrote...
Well, I think some people are peeved that a companion is demanding that another one be killed. Even Anders and Fenris never sank to that level.

I'm not saying it's worth being annoyed over. If someone readily choses Anders over Sebastian, that's completely understandable. Plus it's not the firth time; during "All That Remains", Sebastian will give rivalry points if you accept Gascard's offer of blood magic to help track down your mother. Fenris and Anders do not. Maybe it stems from Sebastian's priveleged background, he can afford to take a high moral ground.

But some are unsettlingly

casual about dealing with Sebastian after the explosion. I don't know if they chose to ignore who much the Chantry and Elthina mattered to him or if it never occurred to them.

Is "sank to that level" even the best way to put it? If you don't help Fenris catch Hadriana, he leaves. If you allow Danarius to take him back, Anders is for it, which...is something I always think of when people say Sebastian, exclusively, is a hypocrite. Everyone has limits, you can't just compare them on the same level like everyone's feelings are the same. None of the other characters are even that religious, why would they care so much as Sebastian does?

Again, it would have been nice to try and calm him down...but I guess this is a game about extremes and the dangers or neutrality, so maybe that would be missing the point.

[jlb524]

Chylise wrote...

I think Hawke may support mage freedom, but I don't think she's at the frontlines, spearheading the revolution (Cassandra is looking for Hawke to help stop the Mage/Templar war, after all).

IMO, I don't think Hawke is an active participant in the Mage/Templar war, so Sebastian won't be either. And if he's not Hawke's LI and eventually leaves (like everyone else), I think he'd stay out of the war and go back to Starkhaven.

I was thinking hypothetically if Hawke was roleplayed as a leader of the mage rebellion, which is how I think Xili wants to roleplay hers.  I never really thought about if that was even possible, given the Cassandra bit you've mentioned.

It sucks that the game ended with a lot of things unanswered.  The biggie being what the heck does Hawke do in the three years in between Act 3 and the interrogation.  If we had any clue, it would be easier to discuss what Sebastian might possibly do in various situations.

[Chignon]

jlb524 wrote...

It sucks that the game ended with a lot of things unanswered.  The biggie being what the heck does Hawke do in the three years in between Act 3 and the interrogation.  If we had any clue, it would be easier to discuss what Sebastian might possibly do in various situations.

Very true. It's a whole lot of guesstimating and that can only go so far.

[LessThanKate]

Chignon wrote...

*sinp*By Velvetrue

Ooh, very nice. Although this one is my favorite from that artist:




Even though it does stem from the idea that "rivalmance" is like kinky activities, which is an idea I'm not fond of...even if it holds some truth, it's surely not the case for Sebastian. I'd rather Hawke rescue him from chains than put him in them...still fun, though.

Chignon wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

It sucks
that the game ended with a lot of things unanswered.  The biggie being
what the heck does Hawke do in the three years in between Act 3 and the
interrogation.  If we had any clue, it would be easier to discuss what
Sebastian might possibly do in various situations.

Very true.
It's a whole lot of guesstimating and that can only go so far.

Indeed. I don't know if DLC...for a DLC is even doable. But there's got to be something planned. I would really like some closure.

Modifié par LessThanKate, 01 novembre 2011 - 01:58 .

[Quething]

Chignon wrote...

Well, of course not and understandably so. Which is why I said that once he had time to calm down, he'd reconsider his actions.

I think you could get him to step back in the heat of the moment. Just do one thing: when he demands Anders' head, give it to him. Step back, say "fine, you want him dead, Sebastian? He's standing right there. He's all yours. Shoot him. Stab him! Here, I'll give you my knife. I'll be at the Gallows saving lives when you're done."

Because I'm really not sure he could do it. As furious as he is, as hurt and angry as he is, as much as he wants Anders dead, he's still the Chantry brother who tried to negotiate with Lady Harriman while staring at the demon who held her in thrall. And Anders isn't offering any threat, he's just sitting there being sad and pitiful and asking for it. I think the reality of trying to enact a cold-blooded execution with his own hands would snap him out of it.

And hey, if it didn't, at least Anders doesn't get the whole "I'm glad it was you" satisfaction, which several of my Hawkes would really rather prefer to deny him. So that would still be a valuable third choice to add to the scenario.

[Chignon]

Good point, Quething. I would've liked that option. I wouldn't have taken it, but I would've liked its inclusion.

[Xilizhra]

Interesting... though I wonder what Anders would do.

[randomcheeses]

Xilizhra wrote...

Interesting... though I wonder what Anders would do.

I'm pretty sure it's established that by then Anders just wants to die and doesn't particularly care how. In any case, Anders's supporters (in Thedas, not BSN) would be able to spin and use Sebastian executing him as 'the Chantry Lackey cold-bloodedly executing Anders the Great Freedom Fighter'. So it probably wouldn't bother him all that much if it was Sebastian instead of Hawke who executed him.

[Ellyria]

jlb524 wrote...

I was thinking hypothetically if Hawke was roleplayed as a leader of the mage rebellion, which is how I think Xili wants to roleplay hers.  I never really thought about if that was even possible, given the Cassandra bit you've mentioned.

It sucks that the game ended with a lot of things unanswered.  The biggie being what the heck does Hawke do in the three years in between Act 3 and the interrogation.  If we had any clue, it would be easier to discuss what Sebastian might possibly do in various situations.

I think, hypothetically, that if Hawke were leading the mage rebellion, that only Anders, Circle!Bethany and maybe Merrill would stick with it for the long haul. On the reverse, if Hawke were heading up the Templar army, only Fenris would stick with it. Hawke's other companions wouldn't be so invested in the Mage/Templar War that they'd get into the thick of it and stay there for long, no matter how much they love Hawke (friend/rival wise, not LI). Aveline would stay in Kirkwall to protect it and its citizens as Guard Captain, Isabela would go back to pirating, Varric would still be storytelling in the Hanged Man, Sebastian would go back to Starkhaven, Warden Bethany/Carver would stay with the Wardens, and Templar!Carver... no idea what he'd do, but I don't think he'd be backing the Templars to hunt down his sister or helping the Mage Rebellion. 

That's just my opinion though.

[Jackalope]

That wall of text was great, by the way.  Although it does sort of make you wonder 'what could have been'.

 tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhatCouldHaveBeen 

Seriously...a Sebastian that ran around with Hawke all the way in Act I...comforting after Mama Hawke's gone...full romance options...I know several people have complained about these scenes not being there, but for crying out loud, it would put all of your characters on equal footing.  It's worth repeating.

Xilizhra wrote...
Well, I think some people are peeved that a companion is demanding that another one be killed. Even Anders and Fenris never sank to that level.

I have never, and will never, have even my darkest dark Hawke sell Fenris back to the slavers.  I, did, however, look for it on YouTube.  Anders had a remark during that scene that left me cold.  Was his little moment of joy about someone being enslaved worst/better than Sebastian calling for his head?  I think that arguement could go either way.

Quething wrote...

I think you could get him to step back in the heat of the moment. Just do one thing: when he demands Anders' head, give it to him. Step back, say "fine, you want him dead, Sebastian? He's standing right there. He's all yours. Shoot him. Stab him! Here, I'll give you my knife. I'll be at the Gallows saving lives when you're done."

Because I'm really not sure he could do it. As furious as he is, as hurt and angry as he is, as much as he wants Anders dead, he's still the Chantry brother who tried to negotiate with Lady Harriman while staring at the demon who held her in thrall. And Anders isn't offering any threat, he's just sitting there being sad and pitiful and asking for it. I think the reality of trying to enact a cold-blooded execution with his own hands would snap him out of it.

And hey, if it didn't, at least Anders doesn't get the whole "I'm glad it was you" satisfaction, which several of my Hawkes would really rather prefer to deny him. So that would still be a valuable third choice to add to the scenario.

Ah, Bioware, King of The Third Option.

I kind of agree with that.  Heck, it's similar to letting Alistair chop of Loghain's head.  "You want to be king?  You want revenge for Duncan?  Here, take this, after all I'm a mage with no upper body strength."

And I think you bring up a good point about how he just talks to Lady Harriman with a friggin demon right next to her.  I usually just start the combat dialogue, but yes, in other playthroughts...the man just wants answers.  Although a desire demon was probably not one of the answers he expected.

[Sirei]

I have to say that I had more Fenris and Anders romances than any other. Sebastian rivalmance was quite empty and I was even more upset that I couldn't cheat his friendmance at the beginning of chapter 2

(yes I cheat realtionships to not full replay every hour of gaming and have still the same armor, plants etc)

He is THE ONE character where the answers count more than any points you can give him. that was one little peak to him why i had to redo nearly all of the game again and again (cause I didn't get the right answers for his friendmance and yes even one little wrong answer is one too much -,-)

Also his faith is strong, stays strong and will always be strong. I loved how he asked about Fenris and Merrills thoughts about the maker, how he made jokes with Varric even inappropiate ones and how he debuffs Isabela at every corner.

Truly, which LI wasn't complicated? Isabela who would rather have slaves sold in Kirkwall then not get her ship, Varric who wants to have the shard or kills his brother in cold blood if you haven't Anders around, Fenris who is quite hearted against mages even though mageHawke is his love and he just says yes to slaughter all of them (even you).

Anders who is talking about love, family and so on but not only lies about his plans (it's so Justice and I will be parted again yeah right) but also lets you distract nice Elthina AND is prepared to die for his cause because you are just not that important and never was (Even though he himself said he cannot decide if it's Justice or vengeance in his head and then demands they were one since the merging....)

Merril who either gets her whole clan blown up/sacrified if you don't let her actions be yours (though without Marethari they are as good as dead) or is as cold as ice and won't really help you "willingy" if you don't do what she wants.

Aveline and Varrc are no LI but they too are quite open how much they despise you and do their best to destroy your reputation if you have a rivalship with them.

All in All Sebastian is the one who is, even with rivalmance/ship the only one who still stands beside you, unwavering, with deep loyalty and wants one act that does not affect thousand other people, the life of whole clans or even a whole f****ing city (eh Isabela?Anders?) He asks you to do justice to one character, who you might be on more friendly terms than anyone else and you know longer than most others, but still asks you of one act for him and his grief/hurt.

Yes I love/hate Anders and his decisions and love Fenris even more than possible ever thought as magehawke but Sebastian has gripped my heart tightly since I began reading this thread and now I can not see him anywhere else than beside my magehawkes side, be it friendmance or rivalmance.

Speculation what would Sebastian do to help mages cause? Is there a circle in Starkhaven? If not how do mages live there? Templar/mage aggression goes far wider than Kirkwall. In all citties and provinces it happens that mages break free and templars let them. Priests and Priestress go out of the church to fight, so sooner or later Sebastian would have to make a choice. Without Hawke he would believe the maker will give him a sign and in my universe he would get one, one that would set Starkhaven free and let him be happy (no matter what he chooses)

With Hawke it depends on his/her side. He would be devoted to Hawke, say his piece of mind but would still follow, adding ideas and thoughts but all in all he would be faithful. Even in rivalmance he does so, that's why I speculate he would do so after the Boom of the church as well.

[Xilizhra]

All in All Sebastian is the one who is, even with rivalmance/ship the only one who still stands beside you, unwavering, with deep loyalty and wants one act that does not affect thousand other people, the life of whole clans or even a whole f****ing city (eh Isabela?Anders?) He asks you to do justice to one character, who you might be on more friendly terms than anyone else and you know longer than most others, but still asks you of one act for him and his grief/hurt.

And Sebastian is also the only one who will absolutely not stand by you even if you don't do it. Admittedly, this isn't really a bad thing, because Merrill remaining with you even if you destroy all her work is something that I found really icky, but it's still noteworthy, as well as being the only choice that asks you to outright kill a companion.

[randomcheeses]

Xilizhra wrote...

All in All Sebastian is the one who is, even with rivalmance/ship the only one who still stands beside you, unwavering, with deep loyalty and wants one act that does not affect thousand other people, the life of whole clans or even a whole f****ing city (eh Isabela?Anders?) He asks you to do justice to one character, who you might be on more friendly terms than anyone else and you know longer than most others, but still asks you of one act for him and his grief/hurt.

And Sebastian is also the only one who will absolutely not stand by you even if you don't do it. Admittedly, this isn't really a bad thing, because Merrill remaining with you even if you destroy all her work is something that I found really icky, but it's still noteworthy, as well as being the only choice that asks you to outright kill a companion.

Convenient how you forget to mention that said companion is a possessed mass-murderer and terrorist who just killed Sebastian's surrogate mother.

But I guess that's just meaningless trivia.

[Xilizhra]

I'm not saying he has no cause, but it's quite a major personal step for Hawke.

[Ellyria]

 Not everyone's Hawke is willing to show Anders mercy. Some Hawkes are angry he started a war and dragged a bunch of people into it without being given a choice. Some Hawkes are Andrastians that are horrified that he blew up a Chantry and killed innocent people. Some Hawkes are angry that he tricked them so he could set the bomb. Some Hawkes agree with Sebastian, that Anders started this mess and he needs to die for it.

So maybe it's not a personal issue for some Hawkes. Anders committed a henious act, he needs to die for it. Not every Hawke has this deep inner desire to spare Anders and is struggling with it. It all depends on how you play.

[Xilizhra]

True, but it's a lot to ask for those who are.

[syllogi]

Xilizhra wrote...

All in All Sebastian is the one who is, even with rivalmance/ship the only one who still stands beside you, unwavering, with deep loyalty and wants one act that does not affect thousand other people, the life of whole clans or even a whole f****ing city (eh Isabela?Anders?) He asks you to do justice to one character, who you might be on more friendly terms than anyone else and you know longer than most others, but still asks you of one act for him and his grief/hurt.

And Sebastian is also the only one who will absolutely not stand by you even if you don't do it. Admittedly, this isn't really a bad thing, because Merrill remaining with you even if you destroy all her work is something that I found really icky, but it's still noteworthy, as well as being the only choice that asks you to outright kill a companion.

Merrill and Fenris will attempt to kill Hawke if you side with the "wrong" faction at the end and don't have enough friendship/rivalry to keep them on your side.  Why is Sebastian's refusal to continue working with someone who just murdered his surrogate mother and spiritual mentor (not to mention any of the other innocent Chantry members who were just murdered, or anyone else on the street who was killed by the explosion) more inexcusable than Merrill outright attacking if you side with the Templars and haven't gotten her friendship/rivalry score up?

[randomcheeses]

TeenZombie wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

All in All Sebastian is the one who is, even with rivalmance/ship the only one who still stands beside you, unwavering, with deep loyalty and wants one act that does not affect thousand other people, the life of whole clans or even a whole f****ing city (eh Isabela?Anders?) He asks you to do justice to one character, who you might be on more friendly terms than anyone else and you know longer than most others, but still asks you of one act for him and his grief/hurt.

And Sebastian is also the only one who will absolutely not stand by you even if you don't do it. Admittedly, this isn't really a bad thing, because Merrill remaining with you even if you destroy all her work is something that I found really icky, but it's still noteworthy, as well as being the only choice that asks you to outright kill a companion.

Merrill and Fenris will attempt to kill Hawke if you side with the "wrong" faction at the end and don't have enough friendship/rivalry to keep them on your side.  Why is Sebastian's refusal to continue working with someone who just murdered his surrogate mother and spiritual mentor (not to mention any of the other innocent Chantry members who were just murdered, or anyone else on the street who was killed by the explosion) more inexcusable than Merrill outright attacking if you side with the Templars and haven't gotten her friendship/rivalry score up?

I wonder Xilizhra, if Anders wasn't a party member, would you be half as annoyed at Sebastian? It kinda comes across that you're angry that Anders did something terrible, but because you like him you don't want to acknowledge it. Instead you attack Sebastian for calling for Anders' completely justified execution for the crime of mass-murder.

Modifié par randomcheeses, 04 novembre 2011 - 05:10 .

[esper]

TeenZombie wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

All in All Sebastian is the one who is, even with rivalmance/ship the only one who still stands beside you, unwavering, with deep loyalty and wants one act that does not affect thousand other people, the life of whole clans or even a whole f****ing city (eh Isabela?Anders?) He asks you to do justice to one character, who you might be on more friendly terms than anyone else and you know longer than most others, but still asks you of one act for him and his grief/hurt.

And Sebastian is also the only one who will absolutely not stand by you even if you don't do it. Admittedly, this isn't really a bad thing, because Merrill remaining with you even if you destroy all her work is something that I found really icky, but it's still noteworthy, as well as being the only choice that asks you to outright kill a companion.

Merrill and Fenris will attempt to kill Hawke if you side with the "wrong" faction at the end and don't have enough friendship/rivalry to keep them on your side.  Why is Sebastian's refusal to continue working with someone who just murdered his surrogate mother and spiritual mentor (not to mention any of the other innocent Chantry members who were just murdered, or anyone else on the street who was killed by the explosion) more inexcusable than Merrill outright attacking if you side with the Templars and haven't gotten her friendship/rivalry score up?

I think what Xilzhra meant is that Sebastian's loaylty is not depending of the number of rival friendspoint gathered, which Anders/Fenrus/Merrill/aveline and Isabella is. 
He makes his decision regardless.  

[syllogi]

esper wrote...

I think what Xilzhra meant is that Sebastian's loaylty is not depending of the number of rival friendspoint gathered, which Anders/Fenrus/Merrill/aveline and Isabella is. 
He makes his decision regardless.  

But from her perspective, as a very pro Mage Hawke, doesn't the fact that Sebastian will:  

- advocate for Mage!Hawke to be Viscount, even before the endgame
- offer to marry a Mage!Hawke, and make her co-ruler of Starkhaven (I know Xilizhra isn't going to take this dialogue path, but it still exists)
- fight on the side of mages in the endgame, as long as Anders is eliminated
- leave, and not interfer with Hawke's mission, even if Anders isn't eliminated

count for something?  Sebastian obviously isn't prejudiced against mages, despite his upbringing and devotion to the Chantry.  Meanwhile, Fenris or Merrill are willing to allow the world to burn, if they don't get what they want in the endgame.  I'm not saying that they're bad characters for having a crisis point, but I don't understand why Sebastian's particular crisis is "worse" because it's not tied to loyalty.

[randomcheeses]

TeenZombie wrote...

esper wrote...

I think what Xilzhra meant is that Sebastian's loaylty is not depending of the number of rival friendspoint gathered, which Anders/Fenrus/Merrill/aveline and Isabella is. 
He makes his decision regardless.  

But from her perspective, as a very pro Mage Hawke, doesn't the fact that Sebastian will:  

- advocate for Mage!Hawke to be Viscount, even before the endgame
- offer to marry a Mage!Hawke, and make her co-ruler of Starkhaven (I know Xilizhra isn't going to take this dialogue path, but it still exists)
- fight on the side of mages in the endgame, as long as Anders is eliminated
- leave, and not interfer with Hawke's mission, even if Anders isn't eliminated

count for something?  Sebastian obviously isn't prejudiced against mages, despite his upbringing and devotion to the Chantry.  Meanwhile, Fenris or Merrill are willing to allow the world to burn, if they don't get what they want in the endgame.  I'm not saying that they're bad characters for having a crisis point, but I don't understand why Sebastian's particular crisis is "worse" because it's not tied to loyalty.

The only explanation I can think of is that because it's not dependant on friendship or loyalty points, there is no 'third option' in which you could spare Anders and still convince Sebastian to stay with you and this seems to irritate Xilizhra who perhaps wants to have his/her cake and eat it too.

[esper]

TeenZombie wrote...

esper wrote...

I think what Xilzhra meant is that Sebastian's loaylty is not depending of the number of rival friendspoint gathered, which Anders/Fenrus/Merrill/aveline and Isabella is. 
He makes his decision regardless.  

But from her perspective, as a very pro Mage Hawke, doesn't the fact that Sebastian will:  

- advocate for Mage!Hawke to be Viscount, even before the endgame
- offer to marry a Mage!Hawke, and make her co-ruler of Starkhaven (I know Xilizhra isn't going to take this dialogue path, but it still exists)
- fight on the side of mages in the endgame, as long as Anders is eliminated
- leave, and not interfer with Hawke's mission, even if Anders isn't eliminated

count for something?  Sebastian obviously isn't prejudiced against mages, despite his upbringing and devotion to the Chantry.  Meanwhile, Fenris or Merrill are willing to allow the world to burn, if they don't get what they want in the endgame.  I'm not saying that they're bad characters for having a crisis point, but I don't understand why Sebastian's particular crisis is "worse" because it's not tied to loyalty.

You do realise that I am very, very pro-mage too. But I do understand where Sebastian are coming from and respect him for walking out. If he could have forgiven Anders for that, I think I would have lost all respect for him.

The point is that Sebastian's mechanism are different than the rest of the companions. I like it because the chantry touched him personally more than anyone else in the group, but as a mehcanism it is different.

As for the points (which has nothing to do with mechanism), I won't speak for Xilhra there, but I personaly think (as a pro-mage):
1. Sebastian suffers from blind templar syndrome (he doesn acknowlegde that Hawke is a mage)
2. I don't think there is a flag for the rivalmance. It might be the one point where the databook is actually right.
3. Sebastian isn't prejudiced against mages, but he is pro-chantry. He will never side with the rebellion if Hawke sides with the mages, he helps Hawke because this particular annulement is injust and Meridith is a loony and Sebastian is a good person who doesn't like to see human suffer. Also he might love Hawke.
4.I have a feeling that sebastian might be forced to side against Hawke. Between the three years gap  and the interrogation the chantry seems to have come to the conclusion that Hawke is to blame for the rebellion/seperation and thus Hawke is an enemy of the chantry. It is first three years later that they think that mayby they should actually ask what actually happened. As a rival sebastian cannot marry such a Hawke because Starkhaven seems to be a chantry city. As a friend, sebastian might still not have a choice, but to return to Starkhaven - if he does, he would still have to not be married to Hawke, if he don't return he is a brother of the chantry I am afraid it cannot end well.

I fear it might end badly for sebastian no matter what, which is a shame because he is a good man who doesn't deserve it.

[Xilizhra]

TeenZombie wrote...

esper wrote...

I think what Xilzhra meant is that Sebastian's loaylty is not depending of the number of rival friendspoint gathered, which Anders/Fenrus/Merrill/aveline and Isabella is. 
He makes his decision regardless.  

But from her perspective, as a very pro Mage Hawke, doesn't the fact that Sebastian will:  

- advocate for Mage!Hawke to be Viscount, even before the endgame
- offer to marry a Mage!Hawke, and make her co-ruler of Starkhaven (I know Xilizhra isn't going to take this dialogue path, but it still exists)
- fight on the side of mages in the endgame, as long as Anders is eliminated
- leave, and not interfer with Hawke's mission, even if Anders isn't eliminated

count for something?  Sebastian obviously isn't prejudiced against mages, despite his upbringing and devotion to the Chantry.  Meanwhile, Fenris or Merrill are willing to allow the world to burn, if they don't get what they want in the endgame.  I'm not saying that they're bad characters for having a crisis point, but I don't understand why Sebastian's particular crisis is "worse" because it's not tied to loyalty.

I consider Merrill's turning on a templar Hawke to be a heroic and moving sacrifice, and Fenris' turning on a mage Hawke an unfortunate relic of his mental damage. But aside from that, I'm not actually annoyed at Sebastian. If this is a line he can't cross, I have no objection to him pissing off. I'm just not going to kill Anders to please him; it's not worth it.

[leggywillow]

TeenZombie wrote...
Merrill and Fenris will attempt to kill Hawke if you side with the "wrong" faction at the end and don't have enough friendship/rivalry to keep them on your side.  Why is Sebastian's refusal to continue working with someone who just murdered his surrogate mother and spiritual mentor (not to mention any of the other innocent Chantry members who were just murdered, or anyone else on the street who was killed by the explosion) more inexcusable than Merrill outright attacking if you side with the Templars and haven't gotten her friendship/rivalry score up?

::leaps in::

As someone who very, very rarely still has Sebastian by the time you reach the Gallows, I can say that it boils down to Sebastian not being willing to do it himself.  I understand why he wants Anders dead, and if he was offering to take his bow and do it himself I'd probably be willing to let Anders die a lot more often.  To be fair, this could just be an oversight on Bioware's end and perhaps future DLC will change my mind.  I'm not going to get involved in a "should Anders die" debate, since that's beside the point for me.  As the gamer, I don't like how the Anders killing scene goes down since I personally play Hawkes who are at least friends with him and would show a little more emotion about sticking a knife in his back.  I end up role-playing a way around it even for my Hawkes who do think he deserves to die.

Basically, I don't appreciate Sebastian forcing Hawke to do it.  If it's truly something he felt strongly about (and who wouldn't?) then why doesn't he try to do it himself?  It would be a simple dialogue option that said "You do it, then."  He wouldn't do it unless you picked that option, obviously, to keep players from getting upset about it.  Bam.  That's it.  It's the same reason why Loghain very rarely survives in my Origins playthroughs: because Alistair is entirely willing to do it himself.  The way I RP, I tend to let the party members do what they want.  They're adults who make their own decisions, and for the most part I keep my PC from interfering.  Thus, even if my Warden was the type to give Loghain a chance, she often said "Well it you want him dead so badly, you do it and live with the consequences... oh.  You did it.  Okay, then, let's move on."

Basically, I just don't appreciate Hawke having to do it.  Some of my Hawkes wouldn't care, but it would be nice to see Sebastian take the damn initiative if it's something that's so important to him.  I certainly understand why he wants Anders dead.  That's why I resent him more for "standing up" for his beliefs here than other companions.  The other companions stand up to Hawke by doing something: they are willing to fight for it.  If Fenris wants someone dead (Hadriana, Danarius, Varania), he will do it himself.  He doesn't order Hawke to do it and then stomp off when she refuses to place more blood on her hands.  (Again, depends how you RP your Hawke.  Mine kill when people leave them no other choice.)

I also understand that Sebastian isn't really the type to be willing to execute a man who shows no signs of fighting back.  I could see him pull out his bow to attempt to execute Anders and then say "....I can't do this, crap."  Killing someone in battle who is flying at you with a sword is different than sticking a knife or arrow in the back of a man sitting quietly waiting for his death.  That's why I think if that's his excuse for not doing it himself, then getting furious at Hawke for not wanting to do it for the same reason is really ****ty.  Again, my opinion could change if future DLC addresses this point specifically, since I also understand that in the heat of the moment Seb may not be thinking rationally.  Well, my opinion as the gamer may change: Hawke still isn't going to forgive him for putting her in that position.  It kinda reminds me of Ned Stark and his refusal to use a headsman.  If you're going to condemn a man to death, you should be willing to carry out the act yourself.