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Katamariguy

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Half annoying/bad half great

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Fingolfin09 wrote...

BIOWARE HIRE THIS GUY NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!



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EDIT#1

At least not for the plot.


EDIT#2

Somebody pinch me, I must be dreaming for me to mostly agree with smudboy.

Modifié par Mesina2, 20 mars 2011 - 12:15 .


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You're quick to post that picture, but I'm on part 4 and quite a few of his ideas are good. Some people say that he doesn't know what he's talking about or a lot of this wouldn't fit in the game, but that's bull.

Some of it doesn't need to be in, but there are some things in ME2 that are just broken and need fixed.

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Silmane wrote...

You're quick to post that picture, but I'm on part 4 and quite a few of his ideas are good. Some people say that he doesn't know what he's talking about or a lot of this wouldn't fit in the game, but that's bull.

Some of it doesn't need to be in, but there are some things in ME2 that are just broken and need fixed.



Your right, some of this is really good and he is reasoning well.  Im find myself nodding a lot to his commentry. But theres still lots of opinion in there which I dont agree with and some of it doesnt even need to be there.    I do respect smud, hes doing alot and addressing some really significant points.  But things he dislikes doesnt mean they are inherently broken and need to be changed.


Still a really good series so far.   Im just about to watch part three btw.  

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I was kind of hoping he'd try talking about a different game at this point. Like Origins.

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OK I have to say that retcons he made about Miranda, Legion and Shepard last living Prothein is just stupid.


And for the gameplay.
Not possible with today's technology nor I believe we will have that kind of stuff in just 1 game and continue it another for at least 1 or 2 decades.
But very nice idea and if they could have done some stuff he said in ME2.
While half of the stuff can be in ME3.


Now I have to watch last 2 parts.
It's about the plot and I don't think I'll agree much unlike in previous 5 parts.
But I might get surprised, but also not.

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Part 6 isn't very good.

First most of the stuff does happen in ME2 only little different while having EVERYTHING directly connected to Reaper threat is just unbelievable and unrealistic.
And being a hero is a social reason? What?!
Ever heard of morale?!
And Shepard being a last Prothein is stupid and Prothein vision in ME1 play small role. Protheins failed like every other species and there's nothing special about them but that they menage to left a message about Reapers.

Modifié par Mesina2, 20 mars 2011 - 01:07 .


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TMA LIVE wrote...

I was kind of hoping he'd try talking about a different game at this point. Like Origins.

Well, he did talk about ME1 in detail a few months back, and that's technically a different game. I think it's possible he does Origins or DA2 eventually, but I kind of doubt it.

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Mesina2 wrote...

OK I have to say that retcons he made about Miranda, Legion and Shepard last living Prothein is just stupid.


And for the gameplay.
Not possible with today's technology nor I believe we will have that kind of stuff in just 1 game and continue it another for at least 1 or 2 decades.
But very nice idea and if they could have done some stuff he said in ME2.
While half of the stuff can be in ME3.


Now I have to watch last 2 parts.
It's about the plot and I don't think I'll agree much unlike in previous 5 parts.
But I might get surprised, but also not.


Considering that Smudboy requires everything to be fully explained or its a plot hole, the complexity of his plot probably requires 4x as much dialogue.

The other part of this is that 1/2 the current ME2 audience gets confused about the current mechanics surrounding everything from the suicide mission to the paragon/renegade system. His system about having to complete x, y, z missions to open up a, b, and c and having to crush 4 Ymir mechs with your biotics for Miranda to open up with you or fight x training session for y to occur would probably just just have 3/4 of players wonder what the hell was happening.

Not to mention, I really dislike his plot suggestions. Control colllars? Clones? Recruiting Okeer right after he slaughters Quarian slaves? Bleh. I like Zulu's conspiracy theories better. Heck, one earlier poster gave a much better suggestion regarding Garrus than his Samara control collar suggestion.

Modifié par Whatever666343431431654324, 20 mars 2011 - 01:13 .


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Has anyone pointed out yet that Smudboy stole his entire style of review/criticism from the guy who did the 90 minute reviews of the Star Wars prequels? Just sayin'.

What happened to him, anyway? Did he get the ban-hammer?

Modifié par spacehamsterZH, 20 mars 2011 - 01:17 .


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Finished part 7 and my God he went a bit too far. I mean what's left for ME3 then? Also entire Council and Alliance fleet goes for Collector base and Terminus Systems don't react?

And in entire part he didn't said anything about Collector General being somehow not to much indoctrinated like other Collector drones.

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spacehamsterZH wrote...

Has anyone pointed out yet that Smudboy stole his entire style of review/criticism from the guy who did the 90 minute reviews of the Star Wars prequels? Just sayin'.

What happened to him, anyway? Did he get the ban-hammer?


Really?
Didn't know.


Also he got perma-banned for swearing and insults.

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Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Considering that Smudboy requires everything to be fully explained or its a plot hole, the complexity of his plot probably requires 4x as much dialogue.

The other part of this is that 1/2 the current ME2 audience gets confused about the current mechanics surrounding everything from the suicide mission to the paragon/renegade system. His system about having to complete x, y, z missions to open up a, b, and c and having to crush 4 Ymir mechs with your biotics for Miranda to open up with you or fight x training session for y to occur would probably just just have 3/4 of players wonder what the hell was happening.

Not to mention, I really dislike his plot suggestions. Control colllars? Clones? Recruiting Okeer right after he slaughters Quarian slaves? Bleh. I like Zulu's conspiracy theories better. Heck, one earlier poster gave a much better suggestion regarding Garrus than his Samara control collar suggestion.

Yeah! Nothing beats Zulu's conspiracy theories! :lol:

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Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Recruiting Okeer right after he slaughters Quarian slaves? Bleh. I like Zulu's conspiracy theories better.


Lol. Actually it was me who gave Smudboy the idea that O'Keer should have Quarian slaves. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 20 mars 2011 - 01:38 .


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^Why am I not surprised?

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TelexFerra wrote...

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Part 6
Part 7



Quite a good watch, like a few other people said it'd be difficult to fit all that into one game, but it'd be alot better with those fixes, of course then the game would require you to actually think, which would turn off many of the people on this forum.

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Recruiting Okeer right after he slaughters Quarian slaves? Bleh. I like Zulu's conspiracy theories better.


Lol. Actually it was me who gave Smudboy the idea that O'Keer should have Quarians slaves. Image IPB


Why am I not surprised? Image IPB Still it doesn't make sense the way he lays it out. So Paragon Shep is force to group with Wreeve, who slaughters Quarians slaves. And then Okeer agrees to join the crusade but must train twice with a Quarian. Meanwhile, somehow these Quarians don't mind that Okeer kept slaves or that Shepard participated in their slaughter. Plot hole.

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I forgot this was a collaborative effort. Quite impressive.

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omg hard to concentrate over that sqwabble of spit

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For the 'Too Long; Didn't Watch' group that doesn't feel inclined to download probably spyware to read his text file, anyone care to give some summaries of the ideas he presents?


Okeer having Quarian slaves actually sounds interesting, and an improvement giving how little slavery we actually saw or encountered in the Terminus, which was always a big place of slavery by the narrative. The only slavery we do see is by the Asari.

Modifié par Dean_the_Young, 20 mars 2011 - 02:16 .


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Good ideas but I rather doubt that it's commercially viable. Probably because commercially viable games can't really be good software (e.g. no incentive to fix bugs; try selling a web server that has to be restarted every hour due to an unfixed memory leak)
@Dean: OO.org ftw (or are you referring to recaptcha?)

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Mesina2 wrote...

spacehamsterZH wrote...

Has anyone pointed out yet that Smudboy stole his entire style of review/criticism from the guy who did the 90 minute reviews of the Star Wars prequels? Just sayin'.

What happened to him, anyway? Did he get the ban-hammer?


Really?
Didn't know.


Also he got perma-banned for swearing and insults.


RedLetterMedia/Plinkett or Smudboy?

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TelexFerra wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

spacehamsterZH wrote...

Has anyone pointed out yet that Smudboy stole his entire style of review/criticism from the guy who did the 90 minute reviews of the Star Wars prequels? Just sayin'.

What happened to him, anyway? Did he get the ban-hammer?


Really?
Didn't know.


Also he got perma-banned for swearing and insults.


RedLetterMedia/Plinkett or Smudboy?

smudboy gets very hostile when you disagree with him.

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Sleepicub09 wrote...

TelexFerra wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

spacehamsterZH wrote...

Has anyone pointed out yet that Smudboy stole his entire style of review/criticism from the guy who did the 90 minute reviews of the Star Wars prequels? Just sayin'.

What happened to him, anyway? Did he get the ban-hammer?


Really?
Didn't know.


Also he got perma-banned for swearing and insults.


RedLetterMedia/Plinkett or Smudboy?

smudboy gets very hostile when you disagree with him.


That's a shame.