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Lunatic LK47 wrote...

Niddy' wrote...

More like the students are failing, then lower the difficulty of the questions asked.  It isn't the test that should change it's the student.  A game should be how the designer wishes it to be and who it's targeted towards. It shouldn't have to be forced accommodate everyone.



Ever factor in learning disabilities and incompetent teachers? Get off your high horse, ******.


>implying someone with disabilites gets a free pass simply because they are different
>implying the teachers are to blame

If you fail the test you do not deserve to pass. Can't beat the boss you don't deserve to progress in the story.

Press X to save the galaxy.

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This isn't the educational system, it is a business. I dare you to go to any successful game company and tell them to stop making games to fit their consumers, but to instead tell the consumers they have to buy the game and force themselves to adapt to the game. Their laughter would follow you out the front door.


That's the point.  Easy = money.

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Almostfaceman wrote...

I agree, now hurry up and finish your video replies I am enjoying them!

Er, please. :innocent:


I is working on it as I write actually :P  I was trying to do a small segment on defining a plot hole, but the term is so convoluted and general, that I gave up and throw the whole thing out of the video. Shame too, since I made a funny pic of Tali in a bikini eating a hot dog for it :(



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I get what you are saying, but it still boils down to opinion.

I would absolutely love for them to make a game as deep as smudboy is asking for. (except for combining Zaeed and Jacob, efffff that.)

The problem is that there is a line you have to draw. At a certain point, deepness and difficulty become too complex. This shatters the game as the narrative takes a backseat to maximizing DPS and metagaming.

Sure, it would be nice for a bit more complexity, but not at the expense of making the game clunky and hurting the narrative. This is my opinion, and I don't expect you to agree with it but at least understand that every customer has an equal say in how a game is made. Nobody's $60 is worth more.

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Niddy' wrote...

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

Niddy' wrote...

More like the students are failing, then lower the difficulty of the questions asked.  It isn't the test that should change it's the student.  A game should be how the designer wishes it to be and who it's targeted towards. It shouldn't have to be forced accommodate everyone.



Ever factor in learning disabilities and incompetent teachers? Get off your high horse, ******.


>implying someone with disabilites gets a free pass simply because they are different
>implying the teachers are to blame

If you fail the test you do not deserve to pass. Can't beat the boss you don't deserve to progress in the story.

Press X to save the galaxy.


Don't make me do American stereotype joke.
People will hate me.

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Mesina2 wrote...

squee913 wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

I agree, now hurry up and finish your video replies I am enjoying them!

Er, please. :innocent:


I is working on it as I write actually :P  I was trying to do a small segment on defining a plot hole, but the term is so convoluted and general, that I gave up and throw the whole thing out of the video. Shame too, since I made a funny pic of Tali in a bikini eating a hot dog for it :(



:blink:


The idea was that if the narrative stated that Quarians had to be in their suits at all times because they lack an emune system, and can not eat human food because they are dextro DNA, but 10 minutes later you saw this...

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That would be a plot hole :P

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squee913 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

squee913 wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

I agree, now hurry up and finish your video replies I am enjoying them!

Er, please. :innocent:


I is working on it as I write actually :P  I was trying to do a small segment on defining a plot hole, but the term is so convoluted and general, that I gave up and throw the whole thing out of the video. Shame too, since I made a funny pic of Tali in a bikini eating a hot dog for it :(



:blink:


The idea was that if the narrative stated that Quarians had to be in their suits at all times because they lack an emune system, and can not eat human food because they are dextro DNA, but 10 minutes later you saw this...

Image IPB

That would be a plot hole :P



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Interesting ideas by Smudboy and company, but in the end not realistic. Not that it really matters much since ME2 is a done deal.

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Mesina2 wrote...

Niddy' wrote...
>implying someone with disabilites gets a free pass simply because they are different
>implying the teachers are to blame

If you fail the test you do not deserve to pass. Can't beat the boss you don't deserve to progress in the story.

Press X to save the galaxy.


Don't make me do American stereotype joke.
People will hate me.

Well I'm sure that a decent amount of americans don't know what the letter "x" is myself, or couldn't decipher which button is blue.

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MisterDyslexo wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Niddy' wrote...
>implying someone with disabilites gets a free pass simply because they are different
>implying the teachers are to blame

If you fail the test you do not deserve to pass. Can't beat the boss you don't deserve to progress in the story.

Press X to save the galaxy.


Don't make me do American stereotype joke.
People will hate me.

Well I'm sure that a decent amount of americans don't know what the letter "x" is myself, or couldn't decipher which button is blue.


Of course not, there is no such thing on a mouse and keyboard! :P

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squee913 wrote...

MisterDyslexo wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Niddy' wrote...
>implying someone with disabilites gets a free pass simply because they are different
>implying the teachers are to blame

If you fail the test you do not deserve to pass. Can't beat the boss you don't deserve to progress in the story.

Press X to save the galaxy.


Don't make me do American stereotype joke.
People will hate me.

Well I'm sure that a decent amount of americans don't know what the letter "x" is myself, or couldn't decipher which button is blue.


Of course not, there is no such thing on a mouse and keyboard! :P


But why to I see X on my keyboard right to Y, left to C, below S and above Alt and Spacebar?
Is it because I'm using European keyboard?

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Mesina2 wrote...

squee913 wrote...

MisterDyslexo wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Niddy' wrote...
>implying someone with disabilites gets a free pass simply because they are different
>implying the teachers are to blame

If you fail the test you do not deserve to pass. Can't beat the boss you don't deserve to progress in the story.

Press X to save the galaxy.


Don't make me do American stereotype joke.
People will hate me.

Well I'm sure that a decent amount of americans don't know what the letter "x" is myself, or couldn't decipher which button is blue.


Of course not, there is no such thing on a mouse and keyboard! :P


But why to I see X on my keyboard right to Y, left to C, below S and above Alt and Spacebar?
Is it because I'm using European keyboard?


I guess... my american keyboard just has 2 intersecting lines..... and it's not blue. ;)

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Mesina2 wrote...

Niddy' wrote...

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

Niddy' wrote...

More like the students are failing, then lower the difficulty of the questions asked.  It isn't the test that should change it's the student.  A game should be how the designer wishes it to be and who it's targeted towards. It shouldn't have to be forced accommodate everyone.



Ever factor in learning disabilities and incompetent teachers? Get off your high horse, ******.


>implying someone with disabilites gets a free pass simply because they are different
>implying the teachers are to blame

If you fail the test you do not deserve to pass. Can't beat the boss you don't deserve to progress in the story.

Press X to save the galaxy.


Don't make me do American stereotype joke.
People will hate me.

 Fine, I'll do one then.

The american education system is broken because of bad teachers that have sex with their students.

Hehe, geddit? Cuz, cuz, they all just havin sex with they students so they aint really teachin! By joe I crack miself up...

Ahem.

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Is it because I'm using European keyboard?

Indeed it is (hint: qwerty)

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AlexMBrennan wrote...




Is it because I'm using European keyboard?

Indeed it is (hint: qwerty)


I was wondering about that. Mine goes like   S
                                                                      ZXC
                                                                        alt   Space

Modifié par GuardianAngel470, 21 mars 2011 - 09:56 .


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Squee is awesome. He comes up with really good arguments. Not like mine "Agree or die!" style at all. He just states his opinions and is very clear on that this is only his opinion.

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I admit I do have a problem with some mass effect 2 plot points, but smudboy's issues with the game are generally readily explainable.

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Some good ideas. Some bad ideas.

It was hard to appreciate the good ideas though due to the constant tone: "this is so much better and the designers are morons for not using this".

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He lost me at "one of the last surviving protheans", other than that, the idea of mini suicide missions was great. I always imagined that the other teammates were in their own groups doing other things during the missions, it justified everyone getting into the shuttle.

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Pwener2313 wrote...

^It should.


*wants to say something about EA making things go wrong with games they publish*

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Just a note on some previous conversation:

Blizzard never dumbed downed WoW. They did significantly reduce the amount of grinding required but the encounters are just as challenging. Players simply created better resources and mods for beating them.

I ran the top guild on my server in WoW. We were the first to beat BWL and we opened AQ40 and beat that too.
This was before all the mods told you when to get out of the fire. This was before detailed youtube videos handheld you through it. You had to beat your head against some encounters 20 to 30 hours before enough people were trained enough to beat it.

I spent at least ten hours a day on that game, which is what you needed to do to see all the content. I had to manage all the constant drama that plagued raiding guilds in those days and it was seriously painful.  I had to manage the inter-personal relationships of other players, because we couldn't afford to lose a skilled player at any time or it would derail our progression. It was a recruiting nightmare because players were constantly burning out and we had to poach from other guilds. I personally broke up several other raiding guilds by stealing their best players. We were alliance and we even destroyed the top horde raiding guilds by poaching their guildmasters.

And this was before faction transfers. We could poach them because when players left, they gave us their characters because they felt so guilty for leaving.

Complexity is not necessarily good. Pointless grinding is always bad and shows a lack of imagination. classic WoW sucked as a game.

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LOL. And there he goes again. It really must be an obsession.

"If I must tear you apart Mass Effect 2, I will."

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Benu5 wrote...

He lost me at "one of the last surviving protheans", other than that, the idea of mini suicide missions was great. I always imagined that the other teammates were in their own groups doing other things during the missions, it justified everyone getting into the shuttle.


By "last surviving Prothean" I believe he was talking about having the Cipher.  Shepard has the perspective and understanding of a Prothean needed to understand the visions from the Beacons.  Thus he is, mentally, "Prothean" from a certain perspective.

He, like I, wished Bioware had made more use of this feature,

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Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Just a note on some previous conversation:

Blizzard never dumbed downed WoW. They did significantly reduce the amount of grinding required but the encounters are just as challenging. Players simply created better resources and mods for beating them.

I ran the top guild on my server in WoW. We were the first to beat BWL and we opened AQ40 and beat that too.
This was before all the mods told you when to get out of the fire. This was before detailed youtube videos handheld you through it. You had to beat your head against some encounters 20 to 30 hours before enough people were trained enough to beat it.

I spent at least ten hours a day on that game, which is what you needed to do to see all the content. I had to manage all the constant drama that plagued raiding guilds in those days and it was seriously painful.  I had to manage the inter-personal relationships of other players, because we couldn't afford to lose a skilled player at any time or it would derail our progression. It was a recruiting nightmare because players were constantly burning out and we had to poach from other guilds. I personally broke up several other raiding guilds by stealing their best players. We were alliance and we even destroyed the top horde raiding guilds by poaching their guildmasters.

And this was before faction transfers. We could poach them because when players left, they gave us their characters because they felt so guilty for leaving.

Complexity is not necessarily good. Pointless grinding is always bad and shows a lack of imagination. classic WoW sucked as a game.


Glad I never bought the game and stuck with Matrix Online back in the day, until the crap you mentioned started appearing during the end of the game's life cycle. Gotta love SOE for ****ing **** up with dozens of controversial crap.

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squee913 wrote...

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That would be a plot hole :P



:wizard:

By the way why didn't Shep and Tali do their humping in the decontamination chamber?

Oh well..