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[TAJ4Life]

I am missing 1 lyrium which is no biggy but there is only 1 Ambrosia in the entire game?! From what i have read you can only get it during Isabella's quest however I gave her up to the Qunari so there goes my achievement >.< what a load of tripe. Just as bad as get 100% areas uncovered in D1 I was on 98%!!

[Icy Magebane]

Yes. Same thing happened to me... I'm really screwed because I'm going to find it hard not to turn her over on all subsequent runs. Then again, I'm not really one for Achievements...(a free level would have been nice though.  This should not have been tied to a follower quest).

Modifié par Icy Magebane, 19 mars 2011 - 06:45 .

[TAJ4Life]

Well to be honest for me to play a game more than once (am on my fourth playthrough) is extremly rare so Bioware have done a great job in making a game that is rather appealling in the gameplay area. However I feel I have worked very hard running around looking at all areas up and down on multiple playthroughs and if that is not an achievemant in itself then I dont know what is. I feel that players that have played that much and have put over 50hrs into the game deserve something.

[Icy Magebane]

I'll go ahead and agree with that. I also searched every corner of every map, and to later discover that Ambrosia is tied to a quest that I'll probably never do was disappointing. But this game's achievements are based around multiple playthroughs anyway, since many are based on choices you can only make once. Anyway... I'll play it again eventually, but I just don't feel like helping a traitor. So that achievement will probably remain locked for me.

[TAJ4Life]

Icy Magebane wrote...

I'll go ahead and agree with that. I also searched every corner of every map, and to later discover that Ambrosia is tied to a quest that I'll probably never do was disappointing. But this game's achievements are based around multiple playthroughs anyway, since many are based on choices you can only make once. Anyway... I'll play it again eventually, but I just don't feel like helping a traitor. So that achievement will probably remain locked for me.

I think you are onto something, an RPG is about choices thats pretty much one of the elements in an RPG and if your choice is not to help the traitor in anyones eyes the choice is not to obviously help her then yes you are locked out of getting that achievemant meaning you are FORCED to choose something you dont want to just to get the achievemant meaning its not an RPG then.

Forcing a choice on someone to get something is not an RPG is about, there should be another way of getting the ambrosia, ive also heard that if you use the black emporium to buy some of the things you missed you are again locked out of the achievemant again something that in my eyes is not right.

For me here is a loophole the term 'Found' again in my own opinion can reach to the fact that I 'Found' the other ingredients at the black emporium and purchased them...

[Cuthlan]

Waaaait a minute.

This isn't an RPG because you have to follow a certain path to get an out-of-game achievement?

[Volourn]

are people really complaining about having consequences to their chocies in a RPG? wow!

[TAJ4Life]

Some of you lot really dont make much sense *sigh* anyways I have everything now apart from the ambrosia also nothing in the game that ive come across even tells you if you dont help her and keep her etc you wont get the ingredient so yeah. As far as choices are concerned its still a bit limited in some aspects.

[Icy Magebane]

Volourn wrote...

are people really complaining about having consequences to their chocies in a RPG? wow!

My complaint is that by giving Isabela to the Arishok, or not doing her personal quest for some other reason, I ended up screwed out of an ingredient that could have given me a free level.  Consequences are fine, and I want more choices and consequences if possible.  But having an item that has nothing to do with Isabela (level up potion) linked to her loyalty mission is sort of absurd.

If anything, it should have been loot for killing the High Dragon, or some other optional or hidden boss.  Something that you could do regardless of your personal interest in following a specific plotline.  If it had been say, "Isabela's Ultimate Daggers," then okay... include them as loot in the quest.  What's wrong with that line of thinking?

Modifié par Icy Magebane, 19 mars 2011 - 09:36 .

[Nam3ci]

TAJ4Life

Having to follow a certain path to get an out of game achievement is not how the game is supposed to be played, the game is supposed to just be played, with complete disregard for trying to get achievements, and any you do get are bonuses. If you are focusing on knocking the achievements over, which is fine, don't complain about having to do things in a particular way.

It's honestly one of the stupidest things i've heard anyone say,

[Maria Caliban]

TAJ4Life wrote...

I am missing 1 lyrium which is no biggy but there is only 1 Ambrosia in the entire game?! From what i have read you can only get it during Isabella's quest however I gave her up to the Qunari so there goes my achievement >.< what a load of tripe. Just as bad as get 100% areas uncovered in D1 I was on 98%!!

If you miss that one lyrium, you miss the achievement.

You have to get *all* the available resources. Not just one of each.

Volourn wrote...

are people really complaining about having consequences to their chocies in a RPG? wow!

Consequences are apparently only allowed when they're consequences the person wants and agrees with.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 23 mars 2011 - 08:39 .

[tanerb123]

it was in a chest upstairs in the warehouse where you meet with isabela's pimp. i picked it up but dont remember the free level thing.

Modifié par tanerb123, 23 mars 2011 - 09:06 .

[artsangel]

I could be wrong, but it seems that if you miss a resource, the Black Emporium will have it for sale in the crafting items store for a few gold. So if you missed the Ambrosia, check there.

I bought both a spindleweed and a glitterdust from the store. I can't imagine they'd have an achievement that was bound to you having access to the emporium. So I can only guess that the resource was in the store because I'd missed picking it up (and had no chance to go back and find it).

[gelfie]

Sigh. Isabela's quest/conversations bugged for me during Act II so there's another thing I'll miss out on. I have never encountered as many bugs on a single play-through as I have in Dragon Age II and it's taking the joy out of the game.

[Merced652]

Nerd points are cool.

[DarkSpiral]

artsangel wrote...

I could be wrong, but it seems that if you miss a resource, the Black Emporium will have it for sale in the crafting items store for a few gold. So if you missed the Ambrosia, check there.

I bought both a spindleweed and a glitterdust from the store. I can't imagine they'd have an achievement that was bound to you having access to the emporium. So I can only guess that the resource was in the store because I'd missed picking it up (and had no chance to go back and find it).

The Black Emporioum, which s/he may or may not have access to, only carries resources you missed during the previous Acts.  You can't get the 1-shot-ort-they're-gone resources any other way except by doing those specific quests.  Which is such an old, tried an true RPG staple that it never even occured to me that anyone would complain about it.  But okay:  Yes, OP, you're screwed.  Sorry.  As incentive for not turning over the "traitor" (who turns around after she's free and clear, btw, specifically to help you) you can (and i did) hit her in the face at the begining of the quest.  Since she does pretty much deserve a "friendly" ass-kicking, I usually go down that route.  But I have yet to play a Hawke that si in any way okay with handing someone over to religious extremists.  Just saying.

[DarkSpiral]

gelfie wrote...

Sigh. Isabela's quest/conversations bugged for me during Act II so there's another thing I'll miss out on. I have never encountered as many bugs on a single play-through as I have in Dragon Age II and it's taking the joy out of the game.

Never?  You're serious?  I encountered at least as many bugs on DA:O's release.

[gelfie]

DarkSpiral wrote...

gelfie wrote...

Sigh. Isabela's quest/conversations bugged for me during Act II so there's another thing I'll miss out on. I have never encountered as many bugs on a single play-through as I have in Dragon Age II and it's taking the joy out of the game.

Never?  You're serious?  I encountered at least as many bugs on DA:O's release.

I wouldn't say it if I weren't. I was lucky to escape some of the DAO bugs but this game feels on par with an MMO in terms of game-breaking bugs.

[Volourn]

"My complaint is that by giving Isabela to the Arishok, or not doing her personal quest for some other reason, I ended up screwed out of an ingredient that could have given me a free level. Consequences are fine, and I want more choices and consequences if possible. But having an item that has nothing to do with Isabela (level up potion) linked to her loyalty mission is sort of absurd."

Tough.

And, if this is ane xmaple of 'game breaking bug' you don't even know what that phrase is actually supposed to mean. L0L

If anything, it should have been loot for killing the High Dragon, or some other optional or hidden boss. Something that you could do regardless of your personal interest in following a specific plotline. If it had been say, "Isabela's Ultimate Daggers," then okay... include them as loot in the quest. What's wrong with that line of thinking?

[DarkSpiral]

gelfie wrote...
I wouldn't say it if I weren't. I was lucky to escape some of the DAO bugs but this game feels on par with an MMO in terms of game-breaking bugs.

Well.  Hm.  I encountered very few actual game breaking bugs at all.  Yes, Merrill's Acts 3 quest is horribly bugged and it aggravtes me to no end, but it doesn't actualy prevent me from doing the quest, so that isn't game-breaking.  I've had no CTDs.  I have had cutscenes d this wierd slowmo thing, and then 30 seconds later all the spoken dialogue fires off at once, once the cinematic pulls out of whatever went wrong.  But I suppose YMMV.

[Nienscecco]

When I pick up the ambrosia in Castillo's place, I only get the codex update. Not the actual resource. It has been the same for all otherresources types. So I should be finding ambrosia somewhere else, right? Or am I missing something?

[Nienscecco]

Nevermind, I reloaded the autosave, took it again and now I have the resource.