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[Lvl20DM]

It comes down to models and art assets, I think. The devs probably don't see much value in creating models for characters that you would only see in a few places. I think a similar calculous was applied to female species. One place they could have been was Horizon, but even implied violence against children in games is not allowed in some countries. With Earth at the forefront in the next game, some kids could be included though.

[Tarek]

I hope we see some female aliens (Krogan, salarian, Turian)

maybe if they make them squad mates they would bother making models for them

[Pwener2313]

Funny, Fallout 3/NV has children and that is those are the most depraved game in history. Yet a no swearing game like ME gets none. Very ironic.

[InvaderErl]

[cpt. awsome]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Funny, Fallout 3/NV has children and that is those are the most depraved game in history. Yet a no swearing game like ME gets none. Very ironic.

yep and in fallout 3 they even have kids with guns. infact theres even some combat scenes with kids. also in a slavecamp theres some locked up kids.

i wouldnt worry to much about kids. id rather see some females since its allot weirder that there are no females anywhere

[Pwener2313]

cpt. awsome wrote...

Pwener2313 wrote...

Funny, Fallout 3/NV has children and that is those are the most depraved game in history. Yet a no swearing game like ME gets none. Very ironic.

yep and in fallout 3 they even have kids with guns. infact theres even some combat scenes with kids. also in a slavecamp theres some locked up kids.

i wouldnt worry to much about kids. id rather see some females since its allot weirder that there are no females anywhere

McCready is the kid you are thinking of. he even swears and called me a bad words. That little bastard....

[nov_pl]

No children almost no women other than quarian/human (asari doesn't count)

[Gill Kaiser]

They should put in female Turians and Krogans before bothering with children, IMO.

[Destroy Raiden_]

So with all this talk about children BW will simply solve it by A. getting Miranda pregnant despite what we've all learned about her or B: get fshep pregnant near the end of the game. But seriously you all know that if BW did make kids they'd all be just standing there like mindless zombies just like all the other npcs right?

I really like how Assassins Creed 3 worked in fat people some where rich others where poor I noticed right away when I nearly plowed a girl over and was like hey! Wow the world no longer has skinny people! Unfortunately it took my sister over a year to realize half the people in the rich part of town she was pick pocketing were fat and brand new body types to the world. I thought it added realism she was just happy they finally did it.

I honestly was hoping to have a duct rat fall on my head when I was in the wards after Baily's whole description of everything and mouse was an adult so...but honestly I don't know where the kids would be unless they were just factored into cut scenes like say Anderson is sitting on a bench talking to Shep and they're in the park you see some kids playing briefly because do you all want to also see kid corpses too sense ya'know the reapers are coming to blow everything up?

Modifié par Destroy Raiden , 20 mars 2011 - 02:35 .

[Destroy Raiden_]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Funny, Fallout 3/NV has children and that is those are the most depraved game in history. Yet a no swearing game like ME gets none. Very ironic.

Yeah those sassy ass kids in little lamp light I wanted so much to slap them sometimes they're some of the crudest kids you'll meet. Princess though she's just messed up and needs committed all upset she has to guard the back gate because she has an itchy trigger finger and likes to blow up everyone coming through the front. Though they're all amazingly well fed because none of them look like skeletons some of the adults look quite bad you meet a few dying of thirst out there in the wastes. But beyond the swearing and the RE type gore factor its still a tame game the only difference separating ME2's teen plot and FO3 is swearing and gore both are rather teen in their plot structures.

[Frozen Mind]

About Fallout and kids: you could kill them in Fallout 1 and 2 (except patch that blocked it?). Here's the exemplary vid (at the beginning - Den FO2):


And in FO3 dev team "removed" kids from war zones, but if you play evil character you can't just clean up streets of non-hostile town, because there are these kids that, yes, you can attack, but they start to super fast run away and only thing you could do is to knock them out for a while. And eventually they'll go back to the vaporised city and you feel like you haven't fulfill your evil task.

Now imagine how more would you care about Collectors if you would see captured children on Horizon and aboard the alien ship. And then imagine how funnier would be news transmitted by Fox! Result - less $$$ for Bioware.

Second argument is like from the Drunken Clam discussions. What would you like more: more alien races, or few kids you can't shot? But if you could kill them, you're banned from XBox 360 platform, Australia and Germany (or am I wrong?). And I guess more countries would do so, to PROTECT US! and protect our children from being shot in games, because some desperate maniac could buy Collectors assault rifle and bring it on your homeworl... hometown streets. That's right!

Modifié par Frozen Mind, 20 mars 2011 - 11:33 .

[sporeian]

When the parents came home from Church
All their children were gone.
They searched and called for them,
They cried and begged,
But it was all to no avail.
The children have never been seen again.

[Milkweed]

They are probably in residential districts, or they are couriers unseen and unhurd, like kreos said.

[Tarek]

InvaderErl wrote...

LOL thats what I was thinking when I saw the thread

[android654]

Frozen Mind wrote...

About Fallout and kids: you could kill them in Fallout 1 and 2 (except patch that blocked it?). Here's the exemplary vid (at the beginning - Den FO2):


And in FO3 dev team "removed" kids from war zones, but if you play evil character you can't just clean up streets of non-hostile town, because there are these kids that, yes, you can attack, but they start to super fast run away and only thing you could do is to knock them out for a while. And eventually they'll go back to the vaporised city and you feel like you haven't fulfill your evil task.

Now imagine how more would you care about Collectors if you would see captured children on Horizon and aboard the alien ship. And then imagine how funnier would be news transmitted by Fox! Result - less $$$ for Bioware.

Second argument is like from the Drunken Clam discussions. What would you like more: more alien races, or few kids you can't shot? But if you could kill them, you're banned from XBox 360 platform, Australia and Germany (or am I wrong?). And I guess more countries would do so, to PROTECT US! and protect our children from being shot in games, because some desperate maniac could buy Collectors assault rifle and bring it on your homeworl... hometown streets. That's right!

On FO3, In megaton, if you decide to massacre the town, you can kill one of the Merc's kid, and the Sherrif's son. I played super evil, and kill practically every town I don't need immediate help from.

More aliens please, or female versions of what we've already seen. I'm curious what a female Yragh looks like or a salarian. I assume Turians are rather similar, since their males look like they're all related.

[Tarek]

Nyoka wrote...

Krogan and salarian kids are probably "in their homeworlds"

I guess we just HAVE to go and see them there, oh how boring it will be to see EVERY alien homeworld.

[Hathur]

[Whatever42]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Funny, Fallout 3/NV has children and that is those are the most depraved game in history. Yet a no swearing game like ME gets none. Very ironic.

FO3 is not the most depraved game! In FO2, you could actually sleep with a mother and daughter. Then there's Bioshock. FO3 may have kids but you can't kill them. Sure you can get hooked on drugs and kill everyone but I can do that in Morrowind too.

[zico291]

You can kill all the kids in megaton if you decide to nuke it.

[KieraShepard]

I think it is primarily a result of not wanting to make more models, but I don't think it disrupts the immersion too badly. I mean, there are blocked off areas of omega that are "residential", and children are at least mentioned. I think the weirder bit is the no female aliens thing (except Quarians). Garrus even mentions female turians twice in conversations with him, whcih bothered me, because then I was trying to imagine female turians and found I had no clue where to start.

[Elite Midget]

Ever hear of Genetic Engineering? It's pretty much mandatory for the most part and those that don't take it are shunned. Hell, Ashley was required to receive some engineering before she could enlist in the military branch they desired and so was Kaiden.

[blazin130791]

Evil Midget are you talking about why there arn't many tall, ugly, etc people?

[DashRunner92]

You JUST noticed there are no kids in ME. Lol 99% of games don't have children and the 1% of games that do are either, kid games/you play as a kid/you can't do anything within a 10 foot radius of a child npc (The only game that I can think of right now that might be an exception is Heavy Rain)

[DarthKaldriss]

In Fallout 2 in the Uk maybe rest of Europe the kids where taken out of the game because of censorship regulations at the time which rather frowned on the murder of kids......
                        However the now 'taken out' kids could still pickpocket you and if the little tykes stole the FOB it was game over. When I first played I thought the town was haunted with these random speech bubbles poping up everynow and then.