Not at all, and that's my point. You can make your sand castle completely seperate and unrelated from mine.Galad22 wrote...
And you keep telling me how I should build my sandcastle, because you dislike how mine would be little different.
The culmination of your choices, interactions with the world and the story itself.The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
So what do you consider a grand accomplishment? The High Dragon in DA:O? The Archdemon? Apply what I said about the Tower of Ishal to those if you consider them grand.
Your stance is that there's no need to skip combat because it adds to the experience. It's certainly heavily implied if not outright said.I don't recall ever saying that people should enjoy combat because I do.
I really don't see how I can despise an option that I suggested but alright, we'll drop it. I'll simply repeat what I've said before, "The prevailing attitude where others lash out simply because it goes against the grain or condemn it on nothing more than principle or sentimentality is close to baffling."Options are indeed great to have in theory, but not all options will be amazing and loved. Some will be hated, despised for even being considered to be good ideas. Sometimes by the people who wanted those options. But I've made that point before and I don't really think it's relevant to this comment.
And your opinion doesn't make it so either. Really, you can be as forceful as you like but it's still going to be an opinion. You can't change the fact that the combat can jar some from their experience even while it might add to others. And no, combat isn't essential for role-play.It is indeed a core component to me, because otherwise I'd feel like I'm watching someone else's life and not shaping it on my own, even if I'm picking what my character says. And combat is a core component of RPGs, and of other genres. Maybe you don't see it as such, but that doesn't change it as actually being so.
I loved the Fade on my 1st playthrough, but afterwards I started to hate it. Many other people, at least on the various threads here (not just this thread, but all the others), have also shown hatred of the Fade. It's personal preference, but most people it seems hate the Fade in DA:O.
I do like the DA2 and DA:OA versions of the Fade. Short, straightforward, and fun.
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the_one_54321 wrote...
Excuse me? If you must know, the only changes that exist in DAII that I was spoke positively about before they were announced were changing the animations and giving it a solid narrative. And those are two of the changes that exist in DAII that I have not complained about.moilami wrote...
HAHAHA, it would just serve you right for it was You who wanted DA2
moilami wrote...
HAHAHA, it would just serve you right for it was You who wanted DA2
Shadowcrazy4 wrote...
STOP ASKING FOR CRAPPY COMBAT AND ABLE TO SKIP IT
START ASKING FOR ACTUAL GOOD COMBAT YOU'LL ENJOY AND NOT WANT TO SKIP
seriously why is this so hard to comprehend?
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
well instead of you being the only person to resolve issues, you can ask your companions to help you out. Like Varric's silver tongue when rescuing Feynriel from the Slavers, Aveline when you're in the Hanged Man during the Qunari Delegate quest, Fenris also during the Feynriel quest when questioning the Slaver.
You can still avoid combat, but you're not the only person who can do it. Which I like. How my Warden was the only person people would listen to and not any of my other companions (like Sten or Shale, who would scare most people into cowardice) was something I questioned.
And there were some instances where my Hawke avoided combat. However I can't name them but I'm going to start my Mage playthrough later.
Modifié par Galad22, 22 mars 2011 - 10:35 .
the_one_54321 wrote...
Not at all, and that's my point. You can make your sand castle completely seperate and unrelated from mine.
Different sand castles.
Different game developers.
There is no need to mix, or to change.
I've already mentioned slippery-slope. The notion that these changes would be completely insulated is false. All changes have ripples.Galad22 wrote...
This would just make one optional little change in your sandcastle, which really shouldn't bother you being optional and all. So I really don't see your point.
the_one_54321 wrote...
Allow me to rephrase.
It makes no sense to push a developer that does [A] very well, to start making [B] which a different developer already does very well.
If all developers made [B], we would have no [A], and any distinction between different developers would be meaningless.
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the_one_54321 wrote...
I've already mentioned slippery-slope. The notion that these changes would be completely insulated is false. All changes have ripples.
the_one_54321 wrote...
I've already mentioned slippery-slope. The notion that these changes would be completely insulated is false. All changes have ripples.Galad22 wrote...
This would just make one optional little change in your sandcastle, which really shouldn't bother you being optional and all. So I really don't see your point.
Do you feel that the game should or should not include combat?Darkest Dreamer wrote...
Nobody is asking for a completely different game and simply because you see it as such only means you can't identify with the other side. And just because one style of game contains a single element someone might ask for, hardly means it compares to the other which might include much of what they want, even if it lacks in certain areas. Not to mention it's just plain silly to stop playing an entire genre of games because you're looking for the perfect one.
I am not stating an opinion here, I am stating an assertion. If this change is instituted, it will have further unwanted effects at a later date.Galad22 wrote...
False in your opinion, that does not make it so.
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Darkest Dreamer wrote...
The culmination of your choices, interactions with the world and the story itself.
Your stance is that there's no need to skip combat because it adds to the experience. It's certainly heavily implied if not outright said.
I really don't see how I can despise an option that I suggested but alright, we'll drop it. I'll simply repeat what I've said before, "The prevailing attitude where others lash out simply because it goes against the grain or condemn it on nothing more than principle or sentimentality is close to baffling."
And your opinion doesn't make it so either. Really, you can be as forceful as you like but it's still going to be an opinion. You can't change the fact that the combat can jar some from their experience even while it might add to others. And no, combat isn't essential for role-play.
I preferred the Dragon Age Origins version, it left your character feeling trapped and alone, and allowed for some interesting ways in which to progress.
the_one_54321 wrote...
I am not stating an opinion here, I am stating an assertion. If this change is instituted, it will have further unwanted effects at a later date.
Mariefoxprice83 wrote...
I don't hate the Fade, I think it just takes too long and it's not like the other quests where you can do a bit at a time. You have to do the whole lot in one go so if you don't have neough potions or the PC can't handle it, you're stuck. That haopened to me before I learned to take a save before the Circle Tower..
the_one_54321 wrote...
Do you feel that the game should or should not include combat?
Galad22 wrote...
the_one_54321 wrote...
I am not stating an opinion here, I am stating an assertion. If this change is instituted, it will have further unwanted effects at a later date.
You really can't know this.
Shadowcrazy4 wrote...
STOP ASKING FOR CRAPPY COMBAT AND ABLE TO SKIP IT
START ASKING FOR ACTUAL GOOD COMBAT YOU'LL ENJOY AND NOT WANT TO SKIP
seriously why is this so hard to comprehend?
Shadowcrazy4 wrote...
the_one_54321 wrote...
I've already mentioned slippery-slope. The notion that these changes would be completely insulated is false. All changes have ripples.Galad22 wrote...
This would just make one optional little change in your sandcastle, which really shouldn't bother you being optional and all. So I really don't see your point.
exactly...this is how DA2 was made...people didn't finish DAO and suggested "minor" things that snowballed into what we have now...I don't want this again
if you want to skip combat...just watch a movie like avatar and you can enjoy combat without doing it
No, of course I can't know it. But I feel very confidant in making the assertion. Chagnes are never completely insular in nature. There are always unintended consequences.Galad22 wrote...
You really can't know this.the_one_54321 wrote...
I am not stating an opinion here, I am stating an assertion. If this change is instituted, it will have further unwanted effects at a later date.
Tirigon wrote...
Shadowcrazy4 wrote...
STOP ASKING FOR CRAPPY COMBAT AND ABLE TO SKIP IT
START ASKING FOR ACTUAL GOOD COMBAT YOU'LL ENJOY AND NOT WANT TO SKIP
seriously why is this so hard to comprehend?
A skip combat button is easy to do and could be implemented in the game via patch.
Better combat would take more time than sh!t EA allows.
What if there is a harm? Those of us that are objecting are not just saying "I'm taking my ball and going home." We're afraid you're going to pop the ball.Darkest Dreamer wrote...
It should but there's no harm if they included an optional way to bypass it.the_one_54321 wrote...
Do you feel that the game should or should not include combat?
As long as they don't deminish her rack.moilami wrote...
Bethany will look like this if there is no skip the combat button in DA3:
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moilami wrote...
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Bethany will look like this if there is no skip the combat button in DA3:
http://pics.livejour...tt/pic/0014w1zf
Shadowcrazy4 wrote...
then go ahead and apply for Bioware and show them your vast knowledge of coding so you can make it yourself...since it's so easy to write the code for it since you're the only one very well aware of this
Shadowcrazy4 wrote...
Tirigon wrote...
Shadowcrazy4 wrote...
STOP ASKING FOR CRAPPY COMBAT AND ABLE TO SKIP IT
START ASKING FOR ACTUAL GOOD COMBAT YOU'LL ENJOY AND NOT WANT TO SKIP
seriously why is this so hard to comprehend?
A skip combat button is easy to do and could be implemented in the game via patch.
Better combat would take more time than sh!t EA allows.
then go ahead and apply for Bioware and show them your vast knowledge of coding so you can make it yourself...since it's so easy to write the code for it since you're the only one very well aware of this
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