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[Meltemph]

I romanced one person, got them to move in, and they game said another npc stuck with me

Ya, If it is the person I think you romanced, I did as well for my last playthrough and I got the same thing.  It may be a bug, but it could also have to do with a certain object finally working?

Modifié par Meltemph, 20 mars 2011 - 02:51 .

[Rockpopple]

The opposite for me. I couldn't stop playing. Nearly cost me my job.

[Meltemph]

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Modifié par Meltemph, 20 mars 2011 - 02:53 .

[s-lad]

I'm in act 3 pushing around 40 something hours and the game still feels kind of small, it might seem really pedantic of me but a change of scenery would have done wonders to make you feel like you were part of an epic story like I felt in the first one, the city of Kirkwall doesn't change over course of 7 years, same stalls, pubs all the differences are a few incidental characters even if they had just made the city larger. My companions have run out of things to say to each other and i change up my party alot. Wish you had more dialogue with them I never felt attached to any of them, Fenris stopped taking to me in Act 2 because I told to shut up whining and no further interactions for the rest of the game, which was wierd. The game is still fun just i hope the expansions allows you to get the hell out of Kirkwall

[Mavkiel]

Gentleman Moogle wrote...

Oh yeah, in fact, that's where I stopped playing, come to think of it. In act three, I had a cutscene with Merrill where she mentioned some things (okay, a LOT of things) that I just couldn't remember happening. The dang thing played out of order, completely shattering my immersion and yanking me right out of the game. 

I was so pissed I turned off my Xbox. Haven't turned the game on since. 

Yep, same thing, only a pc user here. I wont hold the xbox against you

I am hoping that they eventually patch the various quest breaking and game breaking bugs. But, until then I am making a fresh start in me2. Hurray for a new dlc coming on the 29th.

[Lusitanum]

I can understand the feeling. I pre-ordered the game, couldn't wait to play it and now, about a week later... I haven't even finisehd Act 1 because I always end up playing something else. Anything else.

The story isn't grabbing me, the combat can be fun but it can also be frustrating with the stupid waves, everything feels half-finished (probably because it is), the stupid "everyone is bi and romanceable" feels like pandering to all the creepy people who write "Morrigan on Leliana" fanfiction, Fenris is the first Bioware character that managed to genuinely annoy me (seriously, I even managed to kind of like Carth in KotOR but I can't stand this guy), Isabella is a character that I'd like to love, but again, she feels like another bit of pandering to adolescence fantasies, Merril is trying way too hard to come of as naive, innocent and tormented and just comes off as incredibly forced (seriously, she even gets an incredibly cheesy "we all hate you so much and just wish you were gone!" from her people), the repeating scenarios have the be the laziest way to make "new" areas for a game, there are craptons of sidequests that amount to nothing and just serve to pad out a few more hours of boring playing time... it's a mess.

So yeah, every time I think of this, I'm reminded that I have far better games in my collection that need playing.

[Steve Nicks]

The story just seemed weaker, and less than Origins, it would really have been better if the Warden had gone to Kirkwall to really follow on from Origins, and have a history ..

Also a chance to romance Leilana in DAII would have been nice, since the 360 version of DAO was bugged where you couldnt romance her .....and Aveline is NASTY, and Merril is just plain CREEPY, and Isabella, well is too flighty ....

Heck even Morrigan would have been a better choice to romance, along with her illegitamate kid....(yes I cannot spell)

Modifié par Steve Nicks, 20 mars 2011 - 03:02 .

[Gentleman Moogle]

Steve Nicks wrote...
 and Isabella, well is too flighty ....

You are obviously a gentleman, to have put it so delicately. 

Also, I have to ask, is your avatar custom? And if it is, did you intentionally set out to make it look like Peter Molyneux?

[DTKT]

15 hours in, beginning of Act 2 and I simply dont care.

[vigna]

Finish it, and you may still feel the same, and you may have more questions. Finish the Bone Pit cause it's fun and reminded me of DAO.
Finish it and it will at least elicit some passion either way. I actually was liking it more playing it, but it was when I finished it that i started "judging it".

EDIT....The finale to Bone Pit and teh end of act 2 were my two favorite parts.

Modifié par vigna, 20 mars 2011 - 03:20 .

[Beerfish]

You obviously didn't love the characters or the companions or you would have kept playing.

[Gentleman Moogle]

Beerfish wrote...

You obviously didn't love the characters or the companions or you would have kept playing.

Astounding. You sir, quite clearly know me and my motives better than I myself. Are you psychic? Related, perchance, to Madam Cleo? Or does your power stem from some otherworldly source?

Are you an alien? Will you bring back Elvis? We miss him here. 

I did love most of the companions, and their banter, and the way they interacted with the PC. I just found it hard to care about the overall game because... Well, because of the reasons I've stated. If I'm going to play a game, I expect there to be a story that either centers around me, or that I can affect to a large degree. While the story did supposedly revolve around me, there was just no sense of purpose or drive behind it. No reason to care about the events happening all around me, because there was no way I could affect them for good or ill. 

[Chaos_1001]

Honestly , I stopped playing ....when I completly explored ALL the content possible on my first playthrough. Then a day later, I picked it back up and started a new adventure with a completly different set of ideas and playstyle in mind.

[Seblin]

I agree with the OP on every count.

I think the reuse of areas was my major drawback. I try to explore each area extensively when I play, but when its the same areas over and over with chests/loot/mobs practically in the same locations it gets dull very quick.

I remember the epic climb up to the High Dragon in DA:O or exploring the Deep Roads. I mean even Shales quest had its own area and that was supposedly DLC.

Look at the size of the installations, sure compression has improved. Its not hard to compress a game when the total areas are 1/4 of what the original were.

Just installed Shogun 2, 2 DVD's worth of content. 500+ hours of gameplay ahead of me I am sure. DA2 filled a week of my time and left me very unsatisfied.

Lets hope Mass Effect 3 gets the time and recources it needs for a quality ending to a great trilogy.

[Beerfish]

Gentleman Moogle wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

You obviously didn't love the characters or the companions or you would have kept playing.

Astounding. You sir, quite clearly know me and my motives better than I myself. Are you psychic? Related, perchance, to Madam Cleo? Or does your power stem from some otherworldly source?

Are you an alien? Will you bring back Elvis? We miss him here. 

I did love most of the companions, and their banter, and the way they interacted with the PC. I just found it hard to care about the overall game because... Well, because of the reasons I've stated. If I'm going to play a game, I expect there to be a story that either centers around me, or that I can affect to a large degree. While the story did supposedly revolve around me, there was just no sense of purpose or drive behind it. No reason to care about the events happening all around me, because there was no way I could affect them for good or ill. 

I just find it inconcievable that a person would state that they loved the companions, banter and loved the combat and then stop playing totally because the main plot was not up to what they wanted.  That's why I made the comment I did. 

[Edge2177]

The ending is worth seeing, totally. I suspect he spoiled and thats why he doesn't want to finish.

[saduo]

I played to, based on my quest log and doing every side, secondary, optional quest I can find, about 2/3 of the way into act 2, and just... stopped. I haven't played for over a week. Its weird. I'm sure I'll complete the game but it didn't latch into me like DA:O or awakening did.

[AngelicMachinery]

I've only been able to finish one game, I've been getting bugs that stop me and I just kind of sigh, and ponder starting again.

[Thalorin1919]

Gentleman Moogle wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

You obviously didn't love the characters or the companions or you would have kept playing.

Astounding. You sir, quite clearly know me and my motives better than I myself. Are you psychic? Related, perchance, to Madam Cleo? Or does your power stem from some otherworldly source?

Are you an alien? Will you bring back Elvis? We miss him here. 

I did love most of the companions, and their banter, and the way they interacted with the PC. I just found it hard to care about the overall game because... Well, because of the reasons I've stated. If I'm going to play a game, I expect there to be a story that either centers around me, or that I can affect to a large degree. While the story did supposedly revolve around me, there was just no sense of purpose or drive behind it. No reason to care about the events happening all around me, because there was no way I could affect them for good or ill. 

Actually, I agree with Beerfish on this one.

I thought the main plot for Origins wasn't really that original or great or anything, but I mainly play that game to communicate with the characters and such - that's what really drove me to play the game and continually play it over and over again.

Mostly everyone has seen a crappy movie, or read a crappy book, and played a videogame - and even though sometimes they will turn it off or put it down, sometimes they finish cause they want to see what happens to one character or several.

So I don't think the comments directed at him in the beginning of your reply were necessary, serrr.

[Jman5]

*act 1 spoilers*

DariusKalera wrote...

Jman5 wrote...

You're practically done! You could probably skip all the side quests and finish the game in half an hour.

I thought the storytelling was one of the strongest points Dragon Age 2. They moved away from the formulaic RPG story model we've seen 100 times. (mega evil thing you have to kill, but to do that you have to do a million side tasks). Instead DA2 tells the story of a single man struggling to survive after the events of Origins turn his life upside down. The only sticking point I had was the ending which you haven't gotten to yet.

Problem I had was that there was no sense of struggle.  There was no compelling reason for the protagonist to actually stay in Kirkwall after his year with the mercenaries/smugglers is up.  Especially after he gets his 50g.

You have no where else to go. Lothering is burned to the ground, your family has relocated to Kirkwall. Traveling back across sea and land is expensive, long, and uncomfortable. It's not like they can just rent a U-HAUL and drive back.

By the time you get your 50 gold the story has unfolded in a way that makes Hawke's roots to Kirkwall even more cemented. He's killed the criminals in his family's estate, attained the will and realized that the house is in his mother's name.

[Broken1477]

I played through Origins 13 times. Vanilla, modded, hacked, you name it. I could likely recite 80% of the lines in the game. I would have been elated with a glorified expansion marketed as a follow up like Fallout: New Vegas was.

I tried for so long to keep an optimistic, open mind and stay off the forums and formulate my own opinions. I pre-ordered and had almost every piece of DLC available. I enjoyed it through Act 1 and half of 2. I am a completionist, so I endeavored to complete every side quest on my first run through. Although I lost interest, I finished the game, then reloaded and sided with the other faction in Act 3, just to see the different outcomes.

For the last week, I have sat down with the intent to start a second playthrough and ended up playing Dragon Age Legends or something else. It became obvious to me that I didn't really want to play through again.

The game sucked in comparison to Origins. I am one of the disappointed masses who thinks Bioware ruined the franchise for me. I doubt I will buy DLC, and I know I will wait and read the user reviews before I consider buying DA 3. One line in a review best sums up my feelings toward this game: "This game is a console port, that's been dumbed even further down to satisfy the casual market."

[darkshadow136]

Broken1477 wrote...

I played through Origins 13 times. Vanilla, modded, hacked, you name it. I could likely recite 80% of the lines in the game. I would have been elated with a glorified expansion marketed as a follow up like Fallout: New Vegas was.

I tried for so long to keep an optimistic, open mind and stay off the forums and formulate my own opinions. I pre-ordered and had almost every piece of DLC available. I enjoyed it through Act 1 and half of 2. I am a completionist, so I endeavored to complete every side quest on my first run through. Although I lost interest, I finished the game, then reloaded and sided with the other faction in Act 3, just to see the different outcomes.

For the last week, I have sat down with the intent to start a second playthrough and ended up playing Dragon Age Legends or something else. It became obvious to me that I didn't really want to play through again.

The game sucked in comparison to Origins. I am one of the disappointed masses who thinks Bioware ruined the franchise for me. I doubt I will buy DLC, and I know I will wait and read the user reviews before I consider buying DA 3. One line in a review best sums up my feelings toward this game: "This game is a console port, that's been dumbed even further down to satisfy the casual market."

Your not the only one Broken. I tryed starting a 2nd play through after completing and being disappointed through my 1st play through, and I stopped just a third off the way through, and have not played it since. I'm waiting for the witcher 2 at this point to bring my spirits back up. Like you I refuse to buy any of the DLC  for DA2, even if they come up with stuff to improve the game, since on principle they should give us the good stuff to improve the game for free at this point. DA2 is not like Origins where it was Epic to start with amd anything you got over that was gravy.

As far as I'm concerned the Dragon Age francise is dead, since Bioware stepped on their preverbial nuts, giving us a half baked game for a sequel, which in my opinion reminded me more of an expansion like Awakenings, and not something that could be called another Epic sequel to Origins. I see now why they were able to cut the DLC so early for Origins it was not that the new programming for DA2 was going so well, it was because they were giving us a shorter game, stuck in one area, with less immersion, and an endless reuse of the same areas with certain paths blocked off .

[Barefoot Warrior]

I'm having issues completing this game too. I pre-ordered this and waited anxiously for the big day. I could not finish the first time through, could not get past the beginning of act 3, no matter what kind of tactics I used, my whole team got wiped out within a minute. After a couple of hours of this I abandoned the game and started a new one. I am now in the middle of act 2. First time around I was a Rogue and now I am trying as a Mage. My problem is, I can't get really interested in the game. I have no connection to my character and it just seems like a hack and slash kind of game, not a RPG. At this point, the only reason I will try and finish this is because I spent sixty bucks on it. To me, this doesn't feel like Dragons Age, even though it starts out at the same time as Origins. I may be the only one that feels this way, but as a middle aged player who buys these kind of games to forget the real world for a while, this one has caused me more frustration then anything. I have played Origins many times and after (or IF) I get through this one, I'll start another round in Origins and wait for this November for another favorite of mine which I will not name here. Bottom line, vastly disappointed and this just feels like a rush job to get it out before it was ready. If there is a DA3, I will not be pre-ordering it. My gut feeling is that the suits at EA told the folks at BioWare to make DA2 and get it done in a very short time line, don't ask questions, just do it, so I can't point at BioWare completely on this one, just a guess on my part. Anyway, I have no real interest in this game anymore and will try to finish it.

[Broken1477]

@darkshadow136: Let's just hope they don't get "innovative" with Mass Effect 3. Bioware is seriously damaging my calm.

[DariusKalera]

Jman5 wrote...

*act 1 spoilers*

DariusKalera wrote...

Jman5 wrote...

You're practically done! You could probably skip all the side quests and finish the game in half an hour.

I thought the storytelling was one of the strongest points Dragon Age 2. They moved away from the formulaic RPG story model we've seen 100 times. (mega evil thing you have to kill, but to do that you have to do a million side tasks). Instead DA2 tells the story of a single man struggling to survive after the events of Origins turn his life upside down. The only sticking point I had was the ending which you haven't gotten to yet.

Problem I had was that there was no sense of struggle.  There was no compelling reason for the protagonist to actually stay in Kirkwall after his year with the mercenaries/smugglers is up.  Especially after he gets his 50g.

You have no where else to go. Lothering is burned to the ground, your family has relocated to Kirkwall. Traveling back across sea and land is expensive, long, and uncomfortable. It's not like they can just rent a U-HAUL and drive back.

By the time you get your 50 gold the story has unfolded in a way that makes Hawke's roots to Kirkwall even more cemented. He's killed the criminals in his family's estate, attained the will and realized that the house is in his mother's name.

It can't be that expensive, they did it the first time with just their clothes on thier backs.  So going back would have been an option, especially considering how iron fisted the Templars in Kirkwall are.  Maybe not going back to Lothering, but definetly back to Fereldan.

Even with the quest for the estate, there is still never any actual "need" for him to stay.  No concrete reason is ever given and considering who Hawke might be (a mage), who the sister is (a mage), what the Tempalrs are like in Kirkwall, and from what we learn about Kirkwall from the codex's concerning abominations and bloodmagic, the logical thing would have been to get as far away from there as fast as possible.