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[jamesp81]

So, I go to tell off the Terra Firma guy on the Citadel for being a bigoted ass.  I go talk to him, and what do I find?  He speaks with a southern accent.  How ****ing cliche.

I'm getting really damned tired of every racist character in every movie, video game, and book being written as a southerner.  I suppose I and others like me are to be punished for the rest of time for something that happened 150 years ago.

Please, Bioware.  This is fail of the highest order.  Don't be like everyone else.

[jacobOriley]

jamesp81 wrote...

  I suppose I and others like me are to be punished for the rest of time for something that happened 150 years ago.

Welcome to the Quarians world.

[xI extremist Ix]

Don't live in the south?

[blazin130791]

I think Bioware where just trying to accurately depict real life.

[TelexFerra]

I know it's bad but this ^^^ is hilarious.

[Mr Zoat]

Might just have been a translation from whatever language he was actually speaking.
The other guy from the Reds gang in the Earthborn backgroud was specieist and didn't have a southern accent.

[jamesp81]

blazin130791 wrote...

I think Bioware where just trying to accurately depict real life.

Then they have failed, troll.

[blazin130791]

Why on this forum does every single person who makes a toungue in cheek comment or a joke that is even slightly offensive get called a troll.

[AmyBA]

aLucidMind wrote...

I understand what you mean, but the reason why most depict southerners like this is because Southern US was where slavery was prominent a couple hundred years ago. I'm southern and I really don't care what voice anyone uses and I don't get why people get irritated over these things. It's not like they specifically tried to depict you, it is just for a sense of familiarity. It is even more familiar for me since I live in a town in SC where the majority of people here I have met are racist.

Because it does grate on your nerves after awhile. I am from southern Kentucky, but have lived in many places all over the U.S.

One thing that always annoys me when I go to a new place and people hear me speak with my southern accent, is how it never fails for most people to laugh and start making hick and redneck jokes. They ask me about weird things, if I had an out house, or if I graduated high school, or if there is a lot of incest in Kentucky, or if my father was a part of the KKK. There have been many people who just outright assume I lived in a trailer in a trailer park and chewed tobacco (not even kidding), most people don't believe me when I tell them I went to college on scholarship and have a degree. People also will assume I am racist, and many have made racist remarks about others I know and have been friends with, or have told obscene racist jokes, thinking I am ok with it, when I am not.

So yea, It gets pretty old and tiresome hearing and seeing it all the time. As I am sure it gets kind of old for people who speak with a thick Brooklyn accent, Boston accent, or Jersey accent when they get teased or associated with all kinds of negative stereotypes that I have heard people express about them.

Modifié par AmyBA, 20 mars 2011 - 10:52 .

[blazin130791]

AmyBA wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

I understand what you mean, but the reason why most depict southerners like this is because Southern US was where slavery was prominent a couple hundred years ago. I'm southern and I really don't care what voice anyone uses and I don't get why people get irritated over these things. It's not like they specifically tried to depict you, it is just for a sense of familiarity. It is even more familiar for me since I live in a town in SC where the majority of people here I have met are racist.

Because it does grate on your nerves after awhile. I am from southern Kentucky, but have lived in many places all over the U.S.

One thing that always annoys me when I go to a new place and people hear me speak with my southern accent, is how it never fails for most people to laugh and start making hick and redneck jokes. They ask me about weird things, if I had an out house, or if I graduated high school, or if there is a lot of incest in Kentucky, or if my father was a part of the KKK. There have been many people who just outright assume I lived in a trailer in a trailer park and chewed tobacco (not even kidding), most people don't believe me when I tell them I went to college on scholarship and have a degree. People also will assume I am racist, and many have made racist remarks about others I know and have been friends with, or have told obscene racist jokes, thinking I am ok with it, when I am not.

So yea, It gets pretty old and tiresome hearing and seeing it all the time. As I am sure it gets kind of old for people who speak with a thick Brooklyn accent, Boston accent, or Jersey accent when they get teased or associated with all kinds of negative stereotypes that I have heard people express about them.

That's funny.

If I was you I'd find it funny how the people who where stereotyping you as a stupid, red-neck southerner where really the stupid ones; if someone actually beleives that and they are not just trying to ****** you off then they obviously are destined to working in McDonalds for the rets of thier life. You shouldn't get butt-hurt about it.

[jamesp81]

Nyoka wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...
I'm getting really damned tired of every racist character in every movie, video game, and book being written as a
southerner.

Not "every". Admiral Mikhailovich who wants to inspect the normandy is racist too. That journalist al-Jilani is also clearly biased against aliens. Pressley states very openly that he doesn't like turians (runs in his family). I would say racism is fairly shared among very diverse people in ME1.

You're missing my point.  Racism is present in ME1 among many different types of people.  However, there is precisely one NPC with a southern accent in the entire game.  And how is he portrayed?  Exactly.  That's the problem.

This is one reason I always held Starcraft in such high esteem from a story telling standpoint.  The main protagonist is country and doesn't get portrayed as closed-minded idiot.

[MasterofMunchaster]

[oksbad]

I think you are being overly sensitive.

I can also play that game:

The only character with a middle eastern name is Khalisah Bint Sinan al-Jilani, who is an idiotic tabloid reporter. I am offended that the only middle eastern character is such an idiot.

[Homebound]

I think we're missing the point here.

It doesnt matter that he has a southern accent. He was there to play the role of a humancentric elitist. He could have had a british accent and a monocle for all i care. he had a role and he played it.

The stigma we attach to this character is our own interpretation of the world. Just be glad you arent Quarian.

[jamesp81]

Nyoka wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...
You're missing my point.  Racism is present in ME1 among many different types of people.  However, there is precisely one NPC with a southern accent in the entire game.  And how is he portrayed?  Exactly.  That's the problem.

There is one Russian NPC (Mikhailovich). He is xenophobic. Therefore, Bioware portraits all russians as xenophobes. Is that what you're saying? There are only two journalists: Emily Wong, Asian American, nice and friendly; and Khalisah al-Jilani, Arab American, snidy and disingenuous. Does it have to mean something?

Sometimes individuals are individuals.

I doubt Bioware would have purposefully thought about putting a stereotyical "amurikan" as the terra firma guy. For once thing, that kind of strawmanized guy would never stand for all nations on the planet, including Afghanistan, Mexico and France.

Admiral Mikhailovich was not a racist.  He was unhappy about Shepard giving foreign nationals access to a military warship.  This is not an unreasonable concern, even if the player disagrees with him (which I did).

There are two other Arab NPCs I can think of offhand: Fai Dan and David Al-Taqani, both from Feros colony.  David Al-Taqani was killed trying to get Shepard into Zhu's Hope.  Fai Dan chose to heroically kill himself rather than submit to the Thorian's compulsion to attack Shepard.  So, as far as good characters go, Arab extraction characters have two good ones and one annoying one.

I don't know of any other Asian characters, but the one presented (Emily Wong) is apparently a "good" character.  I never could get the interview with her in my games anyway.

There is precisely one southern accented character, and he's a complete ass.  I doubt that's a coincidence.  If there were precisely one black character and he was portrayed as a badguy, people would be upset.  I'm just playing by the same rules as everyone else.

[jamesp81]

Nyoka wrote...

Now this is weird. I edited my post, removing the last paragraph because I thought I had gone too far and giving you some credit. That was 23 minutes ago. Five minutes after I did that, you quoted my original, unedited post. How did that happen???

Update delay?  I've noticed this sometimes on this forum.  Sometimes I've made posts and it took a few minutes for the changes to show up.  Never noticed a 23 minute delay though

Maybe I broke the internet :o

Modifié par jamesp81, 21 mars 2011 - 05:37 .

[oksbad]

 Fai Dan's a chinese name I think http://www.babynames.com/name/FAI. I'll concede David Al-Taqani though.

[DocMadfox]

Oddly enough my reaction to the Terra Firma guy was less "another racist southerner, somethings never change" and more"another racist politician using traumatizing events to further his career ("Remember Shanxi!"), somethings never change.".

[MasterofMunchaster]

This ^^^

[IPityDaFoo]

People will whine about anything these days. Just grow a pair and get on with your life, come on... If this really bothers you enough to warrent coming to an internet forum to complain, your life is a real mess.

Modifié par IPityDaFoo, 21 mars 2011 - 11:52 .