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[Seboist]

Everyone's favorite journalist Khalisah Bint Sinan al-Jilani is an Arab too.

[DuffyMJ]

AmyBA wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

I understand what you mean, but the reason why most depict southerners like this is because Southern US was where slavery was prominent a couple hundred years ago. I'm southern and I really don't care what voice anyone uses and I don't get why people get irritated over these things. It's not like they specifically tried to depict you, it is just for a sense of familiarity. It is even more familiar for me since I live in a town in SC where the majority of people here I have met are racist.

Because it does grate on your nerves after awhile. I am from southern Kentucky, but have lived in many places all over the U.S.

One thing that always annoys me when I go to a new place and people hear me speak with my southern accent, is how it never fails for most people to laugh and start making hick and redneck jokes. They ask me about weird things, if I had an out house, or if I graduated high school, or if there is a lot of incest in Kentucky, or if my father was a part of the KKK. There have been many people who just outright assume I lived in a trailer in a trailer park and chewed tobacco (not even kidding), most people don't believe me when I tell them I went to college on scholarship and have a degree. People also will assume I am racist, and many have made racist remarks about others I know and have been friends with, or have told obscene racist jokes, thinking I am ok with it, when I am not.

So yea, It gets pretty old and tiresome hearing and seeing it all the time. As I am sure it gets kind of old for people who speak with a thick Brooklyn accent, Boston accent, or Jersey accent when they get teased or associated with all kinds of negative stereotypes that I have heard people express about them.

Usually when people are educated they have an educated American accent which is quite different from localized accents in the US.  Someone who grows up in the Bayou sounds a lot different than someone who went to Tulane, for example.  I was born and raised in NY, but because I read books and went to school and **** I don't sound like this guy: 

Southerners that sound like that terra firma dude is just ignorant sounding, educated people from the south don't sound like that...

[hawat333]

That's the same when you hear "grandma's chicken salad" and you state it's a nasty, pornographic reference.
It's there because your imagination want it to be there.
If you want to find cruelty and oppression in Buddha's teaching, you will find it - because you want to.

It's kinda sad that you're looking for these everywhere.

[jamesp81]

DuffyMJ wrote...

AmyBA wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

I understand what you mean, but the reason why most depict southerners like this is because Southern US was where slavery was prominent a couple hundred years ago. I'm southern and I really don't care what voice anyone uses and I don't get why people get irritated over these things. It's not like they specifically tried to depict you, it is just for a sense of familiarity. It is even more familiar for me since I live in a town in SC where the majority of people here I have met are racist.

Because it does grate on your nerves after awhile. I am from southern Kentucky, but have lived in many places all over the U.S.

One thing that always annoys me when I go to a new place and people hear me speak with my southern accent, is how it never fails for most people to laugh and start making hick and redneck jokes. They ask me about weird things, if I had an out house, or if I graduated high school, or if there is a lot of incest in Kentucky, or if my father was a part of the KKK. There have been many people who just outright assume I lived in a trailer in a trailer park and chewed tobacco (not even kidding), most people don't believe me when I tell them I went to college on scholarship and have a degree. People also will assume I am racist, and many have made racist remarks about others I know and have been friends with, or have told obscene racist jokes, thinking I am ok with it, when I am not.

So yea, It gets pretty old and tiresome hearing and seeing it all the time. As I am sure it gets kind of old for people who speak with a thick Brooklyn accent, Boston accent, or Jersey accent when they get teased or associated with all kinds of negative stereotypes that I have heard people express about them.

Usually when people are educated they have an educated American accent which is quite different from localized accents in the US.  Someone who grows up in the Bayou sounds a lot different than someone who went to Tulane, for example.  I was born and raised in NY, but because I read books and went to school and **** I don't sound like this guy: 

Southerners that sound like that terra firma dude is just ignorant sounding, educated people from the south don't sound like that...

You, sir, are wholly incorrect.  I am so southern sounding you can tell where I'm from after I've spoken two words.

My bachelor's degree didn't remove that accent either.  Neither have the dozen or so books I read a year.

By the way, what in the hell is this "educated American" accent you're referring to?  There's no such thing.  Did you just make that up?

Modifié par jamesp81, 23 mars 2011 - 05:47 .

[jamesp81]

Nyoka wrote...

DuffyMJ wrote...
Usually when people are educated they have an educated American accent which is quite different from localized accents in the US.  Someone who grows up in the Bayou sounds a lot different than someone who went to Tulane, for example.  I was born and raised in NY, but because I read books and went to school and **** I don't sound like this guy: 

Southerners that sound like that terra firma dude is just ignorant sounding, educated people from the south don't sound like that...

**slighty off-topic but I'm curious** What does this guy sound like? Is this common?

He sounds like a guy from Alabama.  I suspect his accent might be a little bit "cultivated" for public consumption.  Or it might be as simple as him using his "speaking voice" when recording a commercial.  In any case, I wouldn't say his accent was especially unusual for Alabama.

[jamesp81]

Nyoka wrote...

Thank you jamesp81. It's so interesting getting out of English class once in a while and learning how actual people speak.

If I had the time, I would learn to identify English accents.  My company has offices chiefly in the northern plains states, midwest, and the south.  I've talked to enough coworkers in all three that I can know identify a midwesterner, a southerners, and a northern plains stater just from their accent.  I can usually even tell Wisconsin apart from Minnesota and South Dakota.

[DuffyMJ]

Nyoka wrote...

DuffyMJ wrote...
Usually when people are educated they have an educated American accent which is quite different from localized accents in the US.  Someone who grows up in the Bayou sounds a lot different than someone who went to Tulane, for example.  I was born and raised in NY, but because I read books and went to school and **** I don't sound like this guy: 

Southerners that sound like that terra firma dude is just ignorant sounding, educated people from the south don't sound like that...

**slighty off-topic but I'm curious** What does this guy sound like? Is this common?

privilleged **** who probably spends 3 or 4 days a year at his ranch pretending to sound like a hillbilly...

Listen to Obama ads that ran in black neighborhoods in 2008... He talks ebonics and is all like "yeah my daddy left me, I know what its like brothas!". That fake b.s. is why politicans are f-nozzles and everyone hates them...

[DuffyMJ]

jamesp81 wrote...

DuffyMJ wrote...

AmyBA wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

I understand what you mean, but the reason why most depict southerners like this is because Southern US was where slavery was prominent a couple hundred years ago. I'm southern and I really don't care what voice anyone uses and I don't get why people get irritated over these things. It's not like they specifically tried to depict you, it is just for a sense of familiarity. It is even more familiar for me since I live in a town in SC where the majority of people here I have met are racist.

Because it does grate on your nerves after awhile. I am from southern Kentucky, but have lived in many places all over the U.S.

One thing that always annoys me when I go to a new place and people hear me speak with my southern accent, is how it never fails for most people to laugh and start making hick and redneck jokes. They ask me about weird things, if I had an out house, or if I graduated high school, or if there is a lot of incest in Kentucky, or if my father was a part of the KKK. There have been many people who just outright assume I lived in a trailer in a trailer park and chewed tobacco (not even kidding), most people don't believe me when I tell them I went to college on scholarship and have a degree. People also will assume I am racist, and many have made racist remarks about others I know and have been friends with, or have told obscene racist jokes, thinking I am ok with it, when I am not.

So yea, It gets pretty old and tiresome hearing and seeing it all the time. As I am sure it gets kind of old for people who speak with a thick Brooklyn accent, Boston accent, or Jersey accent when they get teased or associated with all kinds of negative stereotypes that I have heard people express about them.

Usually when people are educated they have an educated American accent which is quite different from localized accents in the US.  Someone who grows up in the Bayou sounds a lot different than someone who went to Tulane, for example.  I was born and raised in NY, but because I read books and went to school and **** I don't sound like this guy: 

Southerners that sound like that terra firma dude is just ignorant sounding, educated people from the south don't sound like that...

You, sir, are wholly incorrect.  I am so southern sounding you can tell where I'm from after I've spoken two words.

My bachelor's degree didn't remove that accent either.  Neither have the dozen or so books I read a year.

By the way, what in the hell is this "educated American" accent you're referring to?  There's no such thing.  Did you just make that up?

Well I did say "usually", so I guess you didn't read carefully enough...  The accent is called general American and it's what is universally taught as "American English" to students of English as a second language, and which actors, comedians, and other public figures actually spend considerable effort in training themselves to speak in order to benefit their public careers.  The accent fully conforms to pronounciation standards found in American standard dictionaries, which is why it's considered educated.  England also has a similar accent for their dialect, I can't remember what it's called though something like represented dialect or respected dialect or something.

As for your education, I don't know.  I don't know anything about you, where you went, what you studied, or how you were raised.

[blazin130791]

By the way, what in the hell is this "educated American" you're referring to?  There's no such thing.  Did you just make that up?

Fixed

[Praetor Knight]

blazin130791 wrote...

By the way, what in the hell is this "educated American" you're referring to?  There's no such thing.  Did you just make that up?

Fixed

Well, I'm an American, and educated... <_<

But I think I get the idea

[PrinceLionheart]

All these different characters, and the only one that's black is Jacob. And he talks about Teh Prize. Bioware doesn't care about black people.

[Merchant2006]

blazin130791 wrote...

Why on this forum does every single person who makes a toungue in cheek comment or a joke that is even slightly offensive get called a troll.

Because that's how it's always been here in BioWare Social which is a shame...

[blazin130791]

Everyone should lighten up.

Also getting pissy just makes the real trolls target you...

[Zaisha_temp]

DuffyMJ wrote...
 England also has a similar accent for their dialect, I can't remember what it's called though something like represented dialect or respected dialect or something.

Received pronounciation. My English teachers kept tossing the term around as the accent to strive for if you want to sound educated. (or rich/upper class)

[Urdnot Orrad]

DuffyMJ wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

DuffyMJ wrote...

AmyBA wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

I understand what you mean, but the reason why most depict southerners like this is because Southern US was where slavery was prominent a couple hundred years ago. I'm southern and I really don't care what voice anyone uses and I don't get why people get irritated over these things. It's not like they specifically tried to depict you, it is just for a sense of familiarity. It is even more familiar for me since I live in a town in SC where the majority of people here I have met are racist.

Because it does grate on your nerves after awhile. I am from southern Kentucky, but have lived in many places all over the U.S.

One thing that always annoys me when I go to a new place and people hear me speak with my southern accent, is how it never fails for most people to laugh and start making hick and redneck jokes. They ask me about weird things, if I had an out house, or if I graduated high school, or if there is a lot of incest in Kentucky, or if my father was a part of the KKK. There have been many people who just outright assume I lived in a trailer in a trailer park and chewed tobacco (not even kidding), most people don't believe me when I tell them I went to college on scholarship and have a degree. People also will assume I am racist, and many have made racist remarks about others I know and have been friends with, or have told obscene racist jokes, thinking I am ok with it, when I am not.

So yea, It gets pretty old and tiresome hearing and seeing it all the time. As I am sure it gets kind of old for people who speak with a thick Brooklyn accent, Boston accent, or Jersey accent when they get teased or associated with all kinds of negative stereotypes that I have heard people express about them.

Usually when people are educated they have an educated American accent which is quite different from localized accents in the US.  Someone who grows up in the Bayou sounds a lot different than someone who went to Tulane, for example.  I was born and raised in NY, but because I read books and went to school and **** I don't sound like this guy: 

Southerners that sound like that terra firma dude is just ignorant sounding, educated people from the south don't sound like that...

You, sir, are wholly incorrect.  I am so southern sounding you can tell where I'm from after I've spoken two words.

My bachelor's degree didn't remove that accent either.  Neither have the dozen or so books I read a year.

By the way, what in the hell is this "educated American" accent you're referring to?  There's no such thing.  Did you just make that up?

Well I did say "usually", so I guess you didn't read carefully enough...  The accent is called general American and it's what is universally taught as "American English" to students of English as a second language, and which actors, comedians, and other public figures actually spend considerable effort in training themselves to speak in order to benefit their public careers.  The accent fully conforms to pronounciation standards found in American standard dictionaries, which is why it's considered educated.  England also has a similar accent for their dialect, I can't remember what it's called though something like represented dialect or respected dialect or something.

As for your education, I don't know.  I don't know anything about you, where you went, what you studied, or how you were raised.

Hmm. Don't mean to be digging up an old thread for no reason-- I was just reading this, and I felt like I wanted to respond.

I never actually noticed Saraccino's accent, really. He just sounded like a smooth-talker. As for the whole, "Educated people from the South don't talk like that", I'd say it's true in my case. I live in the southern part of North Carolina, have for all my life, and most of the time I speak with that "general American" accent, though I can slip back into my Southern accent at times. I always thought that I talked like I do because I'm an avid reader-- I suppose I may have subconsciously forced myself to adopt a neutral-sounding dialect after reading so many books in my life. I just do it naturally, no training required.