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The Warden should come back in DA3


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EDarkness

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I don't know about anyone else, but I really enjoyed playing my Warden in Dragon Age 1.  It's nice to have a character like Hawke and while he's pretty cool in his own right, I feel like it's time for my Warden to step in and put things right.  I would love to see my Warden in the new system with a voice and the faster combat.  I would even be fine reimagining what my Warden looked like as well as his voice as long as I could finish his story and ultimately be the mediating figure in the fight between the Templars and Mages.  I don't want to see him go the way of Darth Revan in Knights of the Old Republic.

The way I always pictured the Warden was that he/she was a problem solver, and someone to turn to when no one else could get the job done.  Not only that, but it seems to me he/she would be the best person to wrap up this situation with Flemeth, Morrigan, and the demon baby.  Also, Anders and Justice were partly my Warden's responsibility and it seems fair that he/she step in and put things right again.

I like Hawke, too.  He's cool, but ultimately, I'd really like to see the Warden return and be playable.  It doesn't matter to me if Bioware has to retcon a couple of things.  It's not like they haven't done that before. 

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You feel like recording an entire games worth of dialogue for every single origin/gender combination?

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Noatz wrote...

You feel like recording an entire games worth of dialogue for every single origin/gender combination?


This is the sad part. Bioware said all this stuff about how its not gauranteed every game they made would be fully voiced but it appears anyone with any sense knows that isn't true. I don't want the warden back, i want morrigans story and i want a ton of references to him and all the cool **** he did, but if gets a voice then queue the bill paxton cause GAME OVER MAN.

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Hawke felt too much like a customizable companion to me. When i played the warden i felt much more like he was my own character.

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Noatz wrote...

You feel like recording an entire games worth of dialogue for every single origin/gender combination?


Hell, I'd do it if I could.  At least this way, everyone gets to play their character to the end.  Of course, I'd be fine if they forced the Warden to be one or the other as long as all the main details stayed the same.

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I can only speak for myself.

But I'm done with the Warden. I'm not done with the Warden's companions but the Warden has no character and no future since the Warden can actually be dead.

A cameo will be hard to do unless they create a one specific Warden origin and face. And who want's that? Why can't we just let the Warden be done. That character's time is done.

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It might be possible to cameo your Warden by extracting customisation information from an Origins save and by making any dialogue with him/her brief. But an entire game voiced by the Warden? Way too much work. And even then you might not like the voice they use for him/her.

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I know the perfect voice to give to our Wardens to make it work with the dialogue system no matter what race or gender your Warden is.....................COMMANDER SHEPARD!

I think Commander Shepard would make a good dwarf.

Modifié par TexasToast712, 20 mars 2011 - 06:30 .


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 they have said countless times the wardens story ant over yet so the warden might vary well be in Dragon age 3  or some  DLC for dragon age 2 and am talking like awakening  30 hour xpack lol  you can't wrap up the wardens story in  hour long dlc he needs 30 plus:police:

Modifié par Osena109, 20 mars 2011 - 06:32 .


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I want to see my Warden return for the third installment, just as badly. The voices--if they do that--could be tricky to navigate. But I don't see why they can't import your Warden's racial information and give you a preset for that particular race. Then let you tweak it how you like in the new character creator. As far as him talking, I'd love to hear him speak. But even if they didn't go that route, I could dig Leliana or Morrigan--or someone else--speaking on his behalf. I'm just not ready to let my Warden go yet. Still has a lot of answers to give and receive. One more adventure is all I'm asking for.


I loved Hawke, but I honestly don't want him to be the DA3 protagonist.

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Jackel159357 wrote...

Hawke felt too much like a customizable companion to me. When i played the warden i felt much more like he was my own character.


Exactly the way I felt.

I really liked playing as Hawke, but nowhere near as much as I did with my Warden. I prefer silent protagonists in general.

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Personally I'd love to see my Warden again. I love my Hawke, she's a lot of fun, but I felt like I was playing the story of a side-character...like a massive Leliana's Song (and Leliana's Song was amazing, so that's not a bad thing, in fact I think it was the perfect approach for this game). It still felt like the Warden's story.

I could deal with getting her voice retconned, but I don't think the voiceless system is outdated or should be abandoned. To me, it's like the difference between first and third person narration...first person is the voiceless character, where you have a much more intimate connection with the character, but less room for ambiguity. Third person is the voiced character, where you are essentially 'watching' them, not 'being' them, and thus there is room for character interpretation.

There's no reason why future DA titles shouldn't have voiceless characters. At least not in my book.

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There is no way the character can really be "done"...if...you didn't make the ultimate sacrifice, which I assume a lot of people didn't make. The Default story for DA2 is that the Warden lived. It's always been hinted that the Warden is still out there kicking ass and taking names, the writers just need for us to catch up to him. Like I said, I'm okay if they have to take some liberties to make it easier to fit into the current system they have now.

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i would love to play Warden again.

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EDarkness wrote...

There is no way the character can really be "done"...if...you didn't make the ultimate sacrifice, which I assume a lot of people didn't make. The Default story for DA2 is that the Warden lived. It's always been hinted that the Warden is still out there kicking ass and taking names, the writers just need for us to catch up to him. Like I said, I'm okay if they have to take some liberties to make it easier to fit into the current system they have now.


Which could easily be excused. This is the Warden, man. The Superman of Thedas. I'm sure there' s a million and one ways the writers could have him miraculously ressurected.

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VictorianTrash wrote...

EDarkness wrote...

There is no way the character can really be "done"...if...you didn't make the ultimate sacrifice, which I assume a lot of people didn't make. The Default story for DA2 is that the Warden lived. It's always been hinted that the Warden is still out there kicking ass and taking names, the writers just need for us to catch up to him. Like I said, I'm okay if they have to take some liberties to make it easier to fit into the current system they have now.


Which could easily be excused. This is the Warden, man. The Superman of Thedas. I'm sure there' s a million and one ways the writers could have him miraculously ressurected.


You mean like leliana? :lol:

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VictorianTrash wrote...

EDarkness wrote...

There is no way the character can really be "done"...if...you didn't make the ultimate sacrifice, which I assume a lot of people didn't make. The Default story for DA2 is that the Warden lived. It's always been hinted that the Warden is still out there kicking ass and taking names, the writers just need for us to catch up to him. Like I said, I'm okay if they have to take some liberties to make it easier to fit into the current system they have now.


Which could easily be excused. This is the Warden, man. The Superman of Thedas. I'm sure there' s a million and one ways the writers could have him miraculously ressurected.


That's the point I made in another thread.  The writers can find a way to bring him back.  They did the same thing in ME2.   

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I'd rather move onto another character instead of bring back a pre-existing one that has already had a grand adventure the likes of which many heroes of old would feel envious of. I wouldn't be adverse to seeing good ol'e "black hole", for the fact that they're blank canvas that you can drop whatever personality you wish upon them, again - but I'd much rather see an entirely new hero if they can help it.

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VictorianTrash wrote...

EDarkness wrote...

There is no way the character can really be "done"...if...you didn't make the ultimate sacrifice, which I assume a lot of people didn't make. The Default story for DA2 is that the Warden lived. It's always been hinted that the Warden is still out there kicking ass and taking names, the writers just need for us to catch up to him. Like I said, I'm okay if they have to take some liberties to make it easier to fit into the current system they have now.


Which could easily be excused. This is the Warden, man. The Superman of Thedas. I'm sure there' s a million and one ways the writers could have him miraculously ressurected.

They could have it where if you try to import a save where you Warden dies the game goes. "You ******, go back to Morrigan and tap that ass."

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You mean like leliana? :lol:

Knowing Leliana, she probably got poked with the knife and thought she died. Overreaction. Fainting. That sort of thing. Woke up to find herself lying in a snowbank somewhere in the mountains, with no recollection of the incident. And with all her stuff stolen. Probably by Morrigan.

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They could have it where if you try to import a save where you Warden dies the game goes. "You ******, go back to Morrigan and tap that ass."

Or have Morrigan just appear out of nowhere in the Fade, and say, "WARDEN. WHERE'S THE CHILD SUPPORT?" You then wake up in some ratty apartment in the Val Royeux projects, with ten kids and a welfare check every month from the Orlesian government.

EDarkness

That's the point I made in another thread.  The writers can find a way to bring him back.  They did the same thing in ME2.   


"Warden, you've been dead for ten years. Empress Celene funded a multi-billion sovereign program called Andraste that was only meant to bring you back."

Modifié par VictorianTrash, 20 mars 2011 - 06:58 .


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Please try to remember that the Warden refers to the Orlesian in the case of the Ultimate Sacrifice.

Leliana's possible death at the Urn has a large number of possible explanations though.

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Vandicus wrote...

Please try to remember that the Warden refers to the Orlesian in the case of the Ultimate Sacrifice.

Leliana's possible death at the Urn has a large number of possible explanations though.


No i killed her, and wynne went with her. They were dead i even waited around expecting wynne to use spirit of the vessel but nope.

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If the warden is back, he/she should be like Utha and die to feed the plot and do some weird stuff to your LI from DA:O in the form of reincarnation or similar.

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Vandicus wrote...

Please try to remember that the Warden refers to the Orlesian in the case of the Ultimate Sacrifice.

Leliana's possible death at the Urn has a large number of possible explanations though.


nope the orlesian  is the warden commander  he is not the warden and the warden  becomes the commander of the grey if he is imported

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Dragon Age 3 will open on the Warden. The events of Dragon Age 2 and all of DA1 outside of the first night at the camp will have been a bad dream, which Alistair will proceed to blame on the Archdemon. In order to cater to fan desires, DA3 will simply be DA1 all over again, with the quicker combat and better graphics of the second game, but all the same quests and interaction as the first game.

*Dodges flames and hides in hidey hole*