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[ReallyRue]

As near-impossible as it would be, I would love both the Warden and Hawke to have a huge role in DA3. Cassandra seems interested in finding both of them, yet they have both disappeared. That's suspicious and interesting. I'd love them to return either with different agendas, or in cahoots, or as enemies.

[Kiedus]

I agree the Warden should come back....on a Griffon.

[Gerrium]

A wardens story is never done.

Like I said before ...... The lore of DA indicates that the grey wardens, apart from being blight champions they are powerful warriors. May I remind you that they have the taint, they connected to this. The lore indicates that the wardens are greatly feared/respected by many, blight or no they have the power to kick your ass.

[DarthManwe]

Well, as I've said earlier, kick-ass factor should be present, whether it be a new char or previous ones.

After a person who personally slew SCORES of darkspawn/demons/human/dwarves/animals etc and 2 high dragons AND an archdemon who was an Old God, (I'm not even mentioning Gaxkang and the super-sloth demon), HAwke was basically light weight.

I mean, Arishok vs. Hawke, okay cool and all, and a Lyrium-maniac Meredith, and a Harvester-Orsino.....

Warden would've slaughtered all of 'em at the same time.
Hawke's only redeeming quality was his/her ability to be extremely sarcastic. You can't do that with the Warden.

Oh, and one more thing.
Why in all the Bioware games, the BEST companions are always in the FIRST game?
I mean, there's Wrex and there's Grunt. There's Carth Onasi and Atton Rand.
Alistair and Morrigan AND Leliana AND Sten AND OGHREN!!!!! all at the same time....
And then I get a redhead-disaster of a tank, a mage-o-phobic Elvhen, a stupid-ass Merrill, an inconsistent Bethany/insufferable Carver.....

I mean, c'mon! What's with these companions? Varric was nothing after Oghren, I'm not even touching the disaster that was Isabela. All she did was spouting dirty jokes....

Morrigan would've crushing prison'ed all their asses back to Fade.

[DarthManwe]

And please, PLEASE, just show me a Griffon. Just show us once.
And please, I've enough of those Fereldan/Free Marches thing. Small cities and a backwater country, uh-huh.

I seriously expect either Val Rayeux or Minrathous in the next game. Better yet, Seheron. I'll even settle for Anderfels.

Edit: On 2nd thought, scratch Orlais...... Imagine trying to play when EVERYONE speaks in that funny French-ish accent....

Modifié par DarthManwe, 28 mars 2011 - 07:07 .

[MadMoskus]

I could tolerate a new PC in Orlais in DA3, if we can get both Hawke and the Warden (most importantly) in the Anderfels in DA4

[KAAurious]

To be completely honest, I was hoping for DA2 to end with Hawke running into the Warden in a very Leliana's Song-esque introduction.

That said. I'd prefer a new Origin's esque game for DA3. Hawke served his/her purpose, we learned that he/she vanished just as the Warden did. Goodie.

In DA:O we had three origin races. Human, Elf and Dwarf. Hawke is a forced human. If DA3 gives us the opportunity to shape a new legend, maybe giving us the option of Elf, Dwarf and Qunari (since one character will always be human), I'd be happy.

[Gaelem]

Don't know if someone mentioned it but I wouldn't mind playing the child of Morrigan. With Hawke and Warden as companions and the characters that "friended" them. I mean you would be an abomination, so the way the story works itself out you've built characters that will either want to kill you or help you and you have all the built in character buy in for the conflict in the characters over the child. I kinda hoped that was DA2 playing the son. I could deal with DA2 much more if you played the child. At least then arguably it's a sequel to DA:O. Not a new story.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

DiablosShadows wrote...

They can use The Warden when it involves Flemeth+Morrigan or Blight and use Hawke for Mages+Templars+Chantry.

I whole heartly agree with this statement.  Great idea, let's hope the Bioware team for Dragon Age read this.

For those that are preaching the warden can't come back due to the US still keep forgetting....you'll be able to use the Orleasian Warden from Awakenings with your decisions from the first game.  I'm getting really tired of hearing this.  How many times did everyone play Origins and how many characters does everyone have? 

The Orleasian warden carries on your story and decisions even if you're dead.  Not that hard to figure out or explain,  problem solved.

[The Angry One]

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

DiablosShadows wrote...

They can use The Warden when it involves Flemeth+Morrigan or Blight and use Hawke for Mages+Templars+Chantry.

I whole heartly agree with this statement.  Great idea, let's hope the Bioware team for Dragon Age read this.

For those that are preaching the warden can't come back due to the US still keep forgetting....you'll be able to use the Orleasian Warden from Awakenings with your decisions from the first game.  I'm getting really tired of hearing this.  How many times did everyone play Origins and how many characters does everyone have? 

The Orleasian warden carries on your story and decisions even if you're dead.  Not that hard to figure out or explain,  problem solved.

Yes so that's

2 VAs for the human warden.
2 VAs for the dwarf.
4 VAs for the elven (city and dalish)
2 VAs for the Orlesian.

This is practical.

[RazorrX]

The Angry One wrote...

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

DiablosShadows wrote...

They can use The Warden when it involves Flemeth+Morrigan or Blight and use Hawke for Mages+Templars+Chantry.

I whole heartly agree with this statement.  Great idea, let's hope the Bioware team for Dragon Age read this.

For those that are preaching the warden can't come back due to the US still keep forgetting....you'll be able to use the Orleasian Warden from Awakenings with your decisions from the first game.  I'm getting really tired of hearing this.  How many times did everyone play Origins and how many characters does everyone have? 

The Orleasian warden carries on your story and decisions even if you're dead.  Not that hard to figure out or explain,  problem solved.

Yes so that's

2 VAs for the human warden.
2 VAs for the dwarf.
4 VAs for the elven (city and dalish)
2 VAs for the Orlesian.

This is practical.

And that is why the days of Dragon Age : Origins are over for Bioware.  WIth shorter dev times, less budget for things like that, etc. we will now have only pregenerated characters to play.

[Lithuasil]

Because so many games in the past had a dozen voice actors for the main protagonist. Oh, wait :|

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

The only way they can do it is for the main character (Warden or Hawke) would be to hire two VA. One for male and one for female. The VA would have to be talented enough to do accents, so what is the problem? This is what they just did for DA2. The Warden and Hawke both are from Ferelden which means elves and dwarf both are english. The only problem they would run into would be the Orleasian Warden with a French accents. Hire voice actors who can do english and french accents. Not that hard to do.

[Curlain]

RazorrX wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

DiablosShadows wrote...

They can use The Warden when it involves Flemeth+Morrigan or Blight and use Hawke for Mages+Templars+Chantry.

I whole heartly agree with this statement.  Great idea, let's hope the Bioware team for Dragon Age read this.

For those that are preaching the warden can't come back due to the US still keep forgetting....you'll be able to use the Orleasian Warden from Awakenings with your decisions from the first game.  I'm getting really tired of hearing this.  How many times did everyone play Origins and how many characters does everyone have? 

The Orleasian warden carries on your story and decisions even if you're dead.  Not that hard to figure out or explain,  problem solved.

Yes so that's

2 VAs for the human warden.
2 VAs for the dwarf.
4 VAs for the elven (city and dalish)
2 VAs for the Orlesian.

This is practical.

And that is why the days of Dragon Age : Origins are over for Bioware.  WIth shorter dev times, less budget for things like that, etc. we will now have only pregenerated characters to play.

Sadly this is the truth, having implimented a voiced protagonist in DA2 I don't think we see a return to the silent PC (as much as I prefer that for my personal RP Immersion exprience), it sadly also has a knock on effect to terms of origins and races played.  I guess they could use the same VO for all races (one male and one female, particularly if it involves a city elf and surface dwarf only), so mabye there is still some chance for races besides human, but I doubt it.

I hope I am wrong and they do find a way to play other races again, as I really don't want to be stuck with just human again in DA3 (or Hawke again, I'd definitely rather play my Warden then Hawke)

[Lithuasil]

They'd still need to record everything a dozen times, even provided they found two people talented enough to pull it off. And people would complain that it doesn't sound like they imagined their warden to sound.

[Danjaru]

Have something happen so the Warden can't speak! Too much smoking?

Otherwise just make 1-2 voices per gender would work as well (not like Elves, Humans or Dwarves sound different anyways). Not like Bioware hasn't cut corners to make games.

Could even be fixed with some funny tweaks for immersion to change things like "by tha maker!" to "By the Ancerstors" or "By the dread Wolf" or similar things depending on race, same voice actor but such tweaks could do alot for immersion.

Modifié par Danjaru, 29 mars 2011 - 02:32 .

[Alexein]

Do people complain that hawke or commander shepard doesn't sound the way that they imagined their hawke or commander shepard should sound?

[RazorrX]

Curlain wrote...

RazorrX wrote...

And that is why the days of Dragon Age : Origins are over for Bioware.  WIth shorter dev times, less budget for things like that, etc. we will now have only pregenerated characters to play.

Sadly this is the truth, having implimented a voiced protagonist in DA2 I don't think we see a return to the silent PC (as much as I prefer that for my personal RP Immersion exprience), it sadly also has a knock on effect to terms of origins and races played.  I guess they could use the same VO for all races (one male and one female, particularly if it involves a city elf and surface dwarf only), so mabye there is still some chance for races besides human, but I doubt it.

I hope I am wrong and they do find a way to play other races again, as I really don't want to be stuck with just human again in DA3 (or Hawke again, I'd definitely rather play my Warden then Hawke)

Yes, I agree.  I am not fond of playing Human pregenerated character X, I much prefer to make my character.  I understood why ME did what they did (storyline, was an Xbox game originally, moving to a shooter/rp hybrid, etc.) but this trend is saddening to me.  I understand why it will be done (money, budget, time, etc.).

They *could* do VO and only allow city races (as opposed to dalish, etc.).  That may work.  But with the pregenerated character being the easiest/fastest to create, i doubt it.

I am not ultra die hard RP boy, I was never able to actually finish Planescape - it bored the tears out of me, but I did love the Baldurs Gate Series.  I never got into IWD (no party interaction, unless you count the voices in your head), but enjoyed NWN.  I actually purchased an XBOX just for ME and Jade Empire (both of which I really enjoyed).  I thought Bioware had hit upon magic with DA:O - the way you had seperate origin stories, and they all affected the main story was freaking awesome.  To lose that is just . . . sad.

[Lithuasil]

Shepard was never a mute as far as I recall. The single one argument for the unbearable immersion-break that is a mute warden, is "I can imagine how he/she sounds, and give her my own voice". How that works, when the warden has a voice outside dialogue, I don't know, but it's the basic argument.

Giving the warden a voice, I'm pretty sure those people would complain, yes.

[EDarkness]

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

The only way they can do it is for the main character (Warden or Hawke) would be to hire two VA. One for male and one for female. The VA would have to be talented enough to do accents, so what is the problem? This is what they just did for DA2. The Warden and Hawke both are from Ferelden which means elves and dwarf both are english. The only problem they would run into would be the Orleasian Warden with a French accents. Hire voice actors who can do english and french accents. Not that hard to do.

No way.  All they need is one male and one female.  They can use the same voice for elves, dwarves, and humans.  Problem solved.  There's no need to record a new accent for each race, they didn't even do that with the first game for each races battle voices.  If they wanted to throw in some crazy filter for each race over the same voice, then they can, but it wouldn't be necessary.

[The Angry One]

They have basically established that every different race has an accent, and this includes the Warden in DA:O for combat and incidental gameplay dialog.
Having a dwarf/elf sound like a hunan would stick out like a sore thumb.

Yes, they could do it like DA:O and solve any problems, but they won't.

[Vicious]

Having a dwarf/elf sound like a hunan would stick out like a sore thumb.

lol, I admire that you still think Bioware cares about stuff like canon and story making sense when it comes to Dragon Age.

[Arppis]

No don't bring him back. He is dead to me.

Thanks.

[raymonddhj]

The warden is not coming back. If you want the warden go play DAO. Lol. DA3 might get Morrigan's child. If so expect one angry grandma out for what is rightfully hers. Flemeth seems to have so sort of psychic powers or her and Morrigan could have Pali the warden just to get the powerful kid. The has to mean something.

[raymonddhj]

Oops typos. It should say "played" not "pali" and "this" instead of the