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The Warden should come back in DA3


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#351
EDarkness

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I would think they'd get a lot of complaints if they did this. It gives the impression that there would be no differences between the races.


In the first game all races shared the same voices, so it wouldn't make any difference if they did the same thing again. I would much rather have that, then nothing at all.

#352
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Anybody else think it's possible The Warden they reference at the end of DA II might be a completely new character Bioware intends to introduce in DA III?

I just think it's highly unlikely Bioware would bring the original Warden back when it's so much easier to just create a new one.

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I had a lot of time to think about this, I think the problem is that DA2 is not as hardcore RPG as DAO. RPG's identified more with the Warden because they played a Warden that is largely similar to them. (Most people and in terms of personality).

I will wait to judge until I see DA3, for all I know this could be use to be setting up for an awesome DA3. My favorite scenario would be to pit the Warden with the remnants of his original party against Hawke and his army. So when you fight Hawke you are actually scared of him since he is more than a match against the Warden.

I always think that is not that hard to bring the warden back. There are only three options first your original Warden in DAO. (The background story might affect a little, but if you really think about it Bioware is already doing the work because the Origin's story affected DA2, furthermore, in Awakening the origin storyline has there for a handful a lines. At this point i doubt anyone cares that the Hero of Ferelden is an elf.

The second major thing that they could do is import the warden from Orlais, is you did Ultimate Sacrifice. What is the point of the sacrifice if you don't suffer from loosing your warden. I found it cheap how they did not let the warden stay dead in Awakening.

Regardless both of them should be considered Warden. For voices is not that hard, you can have one voice and just change the pitch of the voice for each race. (Human normal, Dwarf lower and Elves higher). Or you can add an option to turn off the Wardens voice.

I honestly think both will be in DA3, what I don't know is if both are going to be on the same side or against each other. Also there is a chance that we might get a Warden story as a DLC in DA2.

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I wouldn't mind seeing both in DA3 but I wouldn't want them to be fighting each other...but if we don't see them in that game I at least want some dlc's that put a closing on each story...I hate how my Warden at the end of Awakening just disappears, it leaves me to wonder did the darkspawn take her, or did the Orlesians since she was married to Alistair and in DA2 you get the impression they may be going to war. Just don't want to see both stories end in..They disappear but their adventures aren't over.

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My warden was a powerful killing mashine. Do you realy want to have such a powerful main caracter prom the get go? I sure dont.

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Dark_Angel_115 wrote...

I wouldn't mind seeing both in DA3 but I wouldn't want them to be fighting each other...


If my Dalish Warden ever sees Hawke, he would kill Hawke on sight without speaking a word first. Because of the Champion, my Warden's entire clan (minus Merrill) is dead.

I don't think the Warden should be brought back as the protagonist for DA3. With Bioware's new direction, I can't trust them not to screw it up and ruin the Warden. Especially if he's voiced. A voiced Warden would be as distant from the player as Hawke was.

That's not to say I don't want the Warden brought back. (S)He could possibly be an ally of the DA3 protagonist fighting a separate battle against the Big Bad. (S)He would only be heard of through other characters and not seen until the finale where (s)he is seen battling the Big Bad on his/her own, weakening it enough before dying for the DA3 protagonist to stand a chance.

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I wouldn't mind having to fight and kill the Warden if you side against them in DA3, same goes for Hawke

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Hawke and the Warden meet
Hawke: Well aren't you the quiet one.

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I'd rather play as the Warden, but if the gameplay is good enough and there aren't near as many repeated environments, I wouldn't mind playing as Hawke again either.

But like I said, I'd prefer the Warden, or some new person.

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I don't know. At the end of DA:O the Warden's story felt completed. At the end of DA2, Hawke's story felt like it was finally beginning.

While I wouldn't be opposed to picking up the Warden again (or going with a new character entirely) I'd rather see the continuation of Hawke's story first.

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Ulicus wrote...

I don't know. At the end of DA:O the Warden's story felt completed. At the end of DA2, Hawke's story felt like it was finally beginning.
 


Hawke's "Rise to Power", the story of DA2, is over. Just as much as the Warden's story, defeating the 5th Blight, is over. Any story from here on out featuring either Hawke or the Warden would be a new story.


All that said, I think there is far more potential in starting up a new adventure with the Warden, especially the Hero of Ferelden, depending on the choices you made (Dark Ritual, Old God Baby, Eluvian, Architect and so forth), and seeing consequences to those choices from the POV of your Warden.

Modifié par Brockololly, 22 juillet 2011 - 01:30 .


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Brockololly wrote...

Ulicus wrote...

I don't know. At the end of DA:O the Warden's story felt completed. At the end of DA2, Hawke's story felt like it was finally beginning.

Hawke's "Rise to Power", the story of DA2, is over. Just as much as the Warden's story, defeating the 5th Blight, is over. Any story from here on out featuring either Hawke or the Warden would be a new story.

And, yet, DA2 felt like the first part of a larger story whereas DA:O did not.

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The Warden Probably is in their version of Retirement(Not defeating arch-demons), He(or She) will either be a One scene wonder, or that one boss that can wipe the floor with your party with his(or her) hands tied behind their back. Also if their is a warden I hope they spare no expense.

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Ulicus wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Ulicus wrote...

I don't know. At the end of DA:O the Warden's story felt completed. At the end of DA2, Hawke's story felt like it was finally beginning.

Hawke's "Rise to Power", the story of DA2, is over. Just as much as the Warden's story, defeating the 5th Blight, is over. Any story from here on out featuring either Hawke or the Warden would be a new story.

And, yet, DA2 felt like the first part of a larger story whereas DA:O did not.

This ^
Hawke has risen to power, now I want to play as the Champion of Kirkwall after they have achieved greatness and or infamy.

#365
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My warden,ran off with Zevran to rule the crows.ALthough that was ret-conned in DA2,(They really need to fix that bug) Cause aside from hawke,you also get the feeling the Cameo's stories are not over.

I'm sitting on the fence, with the warden returning issue. I think I would miss my sarcastic femhawke more.

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I would say that ruling the crows plan didn't exactly end well if Zevran was on the run, alone.

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As much as I love my warden, I would love to continue with Hawke and his story doesn't feel over yet. Or a new protagonist, I like the idea of having a new protagonist for every new DA game.

I must admit, I really do want to know why the Warden disappeared but that can be explained without having him return as the protagonist in any futur DA games.

Modifié par TricksterPuppet, 22 juillet 2011 - 02:33 .


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With all the other characters having to be remeshed for DA2 ( and lets face it some come close but not exactly the way they were in DAO) I imagine this would be one setback to being able to have our wardens back, unless we remodelled them ourselves in order to use them again. I certainly cannot see them having our wardens make a cameo appearance due to this though...

#369
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No, please. Let it go. I loved my Wardens, I really did, but their stories are over. It's time to move on. Maybe it will be Hawke, though I doubt it. Better if it were someone new.

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I have no interest in seeing the Warden return, I enjoyed my Warden, had a blast saving Ferelden from the Blight, but that's over. I do not want this series to break down to nothing but fighting cliche fantasy boogeyman in caves.

Thedas is a huge place with a ton of potential for stories, Orlais, Antiva, Tevinter, how can we see any of those stories, if we spend all our time in the the Deep Roads chasing after Darkspawn? And the Warden cant keep thrusting themselves into political and social situations, It was one thing in Origins, because of Alistair, but Wardens are not suppose to be involved in that stuff and I have a hard time believing places will continue to defer to the will of a Grey Warden.

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I don't really want to continue my warden's story. I just plain like Hawke better.
Maybe it's because he's fully voiced, mybe it's his looks and cool guy swagger, or it could just be that he's a snappy dresser. Either way, if a character of mine needs to come back let it be Hawke.

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Sajuro wrote...

Hawke and the Warden meet
Hawke: Well aren't you the quiet one.


Hahahaha!:lol:

#373
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I am not a huge fan of Hawke. I don't know if it was because of the story or the personality. I felt the wheel was to disconnected to what I wanted to say. I don't hate the wheel, but I felt more connected in Mass Effect than I did in DA2.

I would love a Hawke vs. Warden situation. There are a lot of mysteries in the original DAO that I felt the warden is better one to address.

1. Another blight? Who knows what the Architect was planning. I killed him, but something tells me I have not seen all there is about him.

2. Alistair Mother? Another King of Ferelden? I have also a theory that Alistar might be immunize to the taint.

3. Morigan vs. Flemeth - still a huge mystery. I feel that storyline because of the Morigan warden relationship and the decisions that you made has more an impact.

4. God Child or Morrigan leaving to another realm. Another situation that I feel the warden is more capable of dealing with.

For Hawke

I have saving or destroying the chantry and the Mage Rebellion.

I honestly feel that the Warden story is not finished. There are way to many loose ends. Also if the God Child or another blight comes in, I think is going to take the entire world to be saved and right now the best political leader is the Warden and not Hawke.

Just my two cents

#374
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I would honestly would like to see them both return, can you imagine having them as party members? Seeing how the two react with one another built on the choices and personality you gave them? I think that would be great.

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I'd like the warden back, too, or at least, origins-type choices - & if I pick a Dalish, it had better have a Welsh or Irish accent! That was such a huge improvement. As for paying actors to do voices - they do that anyway. Human m/f, Dalish, City Elf, Dwarf - that's not so much.