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[Caja]

I've read somewhere that Alistair was 21 at the beginning of Origins, but I can't find the source anymore. 21 works for me. I always thought he would be 22, so I was close then.
That Cullen is 24 in Origins seems fitting.

Modifié par Caja, 06 avril 2011 - 09:22 .

[Elysis]

I actually read somewhere that the first "draft" of Alistair was his late twenties/early thirties and that he was suppose to be much more hard, down to earth, and serious. But they ended up making his character quite the opposite, which is why they also decided to make him younger.

I think.

I imagined Cullen behing in his mid twenties as well.

[Sialater]

Elysis wrote...

I actually read somewhere that the first "draft" of Alistair was his late twenties/early thirties and that he was suppose to be much more hard, down to earth, and serious. But they ended up making his character quite the opposite, which is why they also decided to make him younger.

I think.

I imagined Cullen behing in his mid twenties as well.

They changed Alistair's age and character concept because that kind of person wouldn't voluntarily give up command to your PC without leaving a giant plothole.

[Elysis]

That's it! Thanks Sia, I couldn't remember ^^

[Caja]

That's interesting, Sialater. Thanks for clarification.

[Kriselia]

On the whole age issue, mid-twenties seems to be the most likely age for Cullen, but how long do you guys think he had been at the tower when Origins started?

He didn't seem like he'd spent that long there, but one of the templars in DA2 says he'd been stationed at the Gallows when he was 15.

[Sialater]

Kriselia wrote...

On the whole age issue, mid-twenties seems to be the most likely age for Cullen, but how long do you guys think he had been at the tower when Origins started?

He didn't seem like he'd spent that long there, but one of the templars in DA2 says he'd been stationed at the Gallows when he was 15.

That's where my problem starts.  If he was brand-new... he wouldn't have had time to recognize Anders.  But... how long would it take for him to notice Amell/Surana out of dozens of novice mages and obsess over her.  I mean... Moira's pretty damned unforgettable, but really? 

[Kriselia]

Sialater wrote...

Kriselia wrote...

On the whole age issue, mid-twenties seems to be the most likely age for Cullen, but how long do you guys think he had been at the tower when Origins started?

He didn't seem like he'd spent that long there, but one of the templars in DA2 says he'd been stationed at the Gallows when he was 15.

That's where my problem starts.  If he was brand-new... he wouldn't have had time to recognize Anders.  But... how long would it take for him to notice Amell/Surana out of dozens of novice mages and obsess over her.  I mean... Moira's pretty damned unforgettable, but really? 

And if he's new, where did he spend the 10 years between the end of basic training and being stationed at the tower? Tower-duty seems like a pretty regular position for newer templars.

Modifié par Kriselia, 06 avril 2011 - 09:44 .

[Galagraphia]

Kriselia wrote...
And if he's new, where did he spend the 10 years between the end of basic training and being stationed at the tower? Tower-duty seems like a pretty regular position for newer templars.

He could have served in the Chantry somewhere.

[Kriselia]

Galagraphia wrote...

Kriselia wrote...
And if he's new, where did he spend the 10 years between the end of basic training and being stationed at the tower? Tower-duty seems like a pretty regular position for newer templars.

He could have served in the Chantry somewhere.

That would make the most sense, especially since he doesn't seem to have much experience at actually dealing with mages.

[Selenora]

Sialater wrote...

That's where my problem starts.  If he was brand-new... he wouldn't have had time to recognize Anders.  But... how long would it take for him to notice Amell/Surana out of dozens of novice mages and obsess over her.  I mean... Moira's pretty damned unforgettable, but really? 

Not that much...remember he's a naive, shy, never done anything before with a woman. kind of guy.... :innocent:
Hell, it took me 2 pts to be obsessed with him and im a real person.... and all the opposite from what i have said for him :D

[Caja]

berelinde explained the whole Cullen and Anders thing here.

[Sialater]

I don't buy it. Anders was supposed to be on one of his Non-Templar-Endorsed-Excursions during The Incident, IIRC. If he was in solitary, Uldred would have had to kill him or recruit him. The real problem is, we don't have a definitive timeline for the Blight. Do we?

[Jean]

Sialater wrote...

I don't buy it. Anders was supposed to be on one of his Non-Templar-Endorsed-Excursions during The Incident, IIRC. If he was in solitary, Uldred would have had to kill him or recruit him. The real problem is, we don't have a definitive timeline for the Blight. Do we?

Nobody knows when he was in solitary or when he escaped or where he was during Uldred's revolt.

[Sialater]

Batteries wrote...

Sialater wrote...

I don't buy it. Anders was supposed to be on one of his Non-Templar-Endorsed-Excursions during The Incident, IIRC. If he was in solitary, Uldred would have had to kill him or recruit him. The real problem is, we don't have a definitive timeline for the Blight. Do we?

Nobody knows when he was in solitary or when he escaped or where he was during Uldred's revolt.

Right.  And that's the problem.  And that's why we can't figure out if Cullen would know him.

I think he'd at least have seen one of Anders' "Wanted" posters.

[Selenora]

Sialater wrote...

I don't buy it. Anders was supposed to be on one of his Non-Templar-Endorsed-Excursions during The Incident, IIRC. If he was in solitary, Uldred would have had to kill him or recruit him. The real problem is, we don't have a definitive timeline for the Blight. Do we?

Not necessarily. He could have been forgoten down there (or up there) and be remembered after the events....in this case he was lucky...and Uldread had enough on his head to think about to pay attention to a forgoten panished mage.....
how many times has Anders escaped? and brought back? and not having been a tranquil (wrong spelling propably )
makes me think the Ferelden Circle was indeed better...softer with mages.....so why all this enormus hate for templas that cost Justice to turn to Vengeance?
Granted, mages were not allowed to have their own lives and do things a normal human being would do but is that enough for that kind of change?

[Selenora]

Sialater wrote...

Batteries wrote...

Sialater wrote...

I don't buy it. Anders was supposed to be on one of his Non-Templar-Endorsed-Excursions during The Incident, IIRC. If he was in solitary, Uldred would have had to kill him or recruit him. The real problem is, we don't have a definitive timeline for the Blight. Do we?

Nobody knows when he was in solitary or when he escaped or where he was during Uldred's revolt.

Right.  And that's the problem.  And that's why we can't figure out if Cullen would know him.

I think he'd at least have seen one of Anders' "Wanted" posters.

i dont think the Templars would post a "Wanted" poster for Anders..bad for the reputation
not much Cullen in this page.....

Modifié par Selenora, 07 avril 2011 - 02:36 .

[Sialater]

Selenora wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Batteries wrote...

Sialater wrote...

I don't buy it. Anders was supposed to be on one of his Non-Templar-Endorsed-Excursions during The Incident, IIRC. If he was in solitary, Uldred would have had to kill him or recruit him. The real problem is, we don't have a definitive timeline for the Blight. Do we?

Nobody knows when he was in solitary or when he escaped or where he was during Uldred's revolt.

Right.  And that's the problem.  And that's why we can't figure out if Cullen would know him.

I think he'd at least have seen one of Anders' "Wanted" posters.

i dont think the Templars would post a "Wanted" poster for Anders..bad for the reputation

I meant among just themselves.

[Sialater]

Selenora wrote...

Sialater wrote...

I don't buy it. Anders was supposed to be on one of his Non-Templar-Endorsed-Excursions during The Incident, IIRC. If he was in solitary, Uldred would have had to kill him or recruit him. The real problem is, we don't have a definitive timeline for the Blight. Do we?

Not necessarily. He could have been forgoten down there (or up there) and be remembered after the events....in this case he was lucky...and Uldread had enough on his head to think about to pay attention to a forgoten panished mage.....
how many times has Anders escaped? and brought back? and not having been a tranquil (wrong spelling propably )
makes me think the Ferelden Circle was indeed better...softer with mages.....so why all this enormus hate for templas that cost Justice to turn to Vengeance?
Granted, mages were not allowed to have their own lives and do things a normal human being would do but is that enough for that kind of change?

Then why does he never mention it to the Warden whom he recognizes from the same tower?

[Selenora]

Sialater wrote...

Selenora wrote...

Sialater wrote...

I don't buy it. Anders was supposed to be on one of his Non-Templar-Endorsed-Excursions during The Incident, IIRC. If he was in solitary, Uldred would have had to kill him or recruit him. The real problem is, we don't have a definitive timeline for the Blight. Do we?

Not necessarily. He could have been forgoten down there (or up there) and be remembered after the events....in this case he was lucky...and Uldread had enough on his head to think about to pay attention to a forgoten panished mage.....
how many times has Anders escaped? and brought back? and not having been a tranquil (wrong spelling propably )
makes me think the Ferelden Circle was indeed better...softer with mages.....so why all this enormus hate for templas that cost Justice to turn to Vengeance?
Granted, mages were not allowed to have their own lives and do things a normal human being would do but is that enough for that kind of change?

Then why does he never mention it to the Warden whom he recognizes from the same tower?

And now in English plz lol...sorry just got back from work and brain is in sleep mode I didnt understand what you said
and Sia..i have the odd feeling you LIKE Cullen rofl

Beh...i need a nap...be back in a while

Modifié par Selenora, 07 avril 2011 - 02:40 .

[Sialater]

I DO like Cullen.... just not as Moira's romance.

[Karily]

DITTO! DITTO! DITTO!

I thought Cullen was a cute but definite wiener in DA1 - both in his initial flirtation with the Mage ("Gee, I"m so glad I didn't have to kill you, 'cause you're cute ...") and especially - even 'tho it's understandable - after he'd been tortured by Uldred and the rogue Mages for a while ('Kill them all!"). i figured he'd definitely have had wet palms if you tried to hold his hand.

So I was totally shocked and absolutely LOVED how he had matured in DA2, to the point where he defends the mages against injustice. What great hero potential he has, after a rocky start!

*** SPOILER ***
Plus, when you think about it and if you're going for consistency, companions like Fenris and Anders (good riddance) probably won't make more than a token cameo in DA3 (as does Zevran depending upon your DA1 choice) since they, like he could earlier, can die in DA2.

If the developers would promise me, cross-their-heart-and-hope-to-die, that I'd have Varric and Cullen as romanceable options in DA3, I'd pre-pay tomorrow! (I'm already envisioning a script where at the very beginning Varric has to rescue a Hawke half-destroyed / demoralized by the betrayal of whichever of the love interests s/he ended up with ...).



Karily

Gremnock wrote...

Bioware, please give us Cullen as a fully romanceable companion in a DLC or Expansion..I've always been interested in him as a character since I played the Mage origin in DAO. Then after seeing him again I liked that you expanded his story. Now I want him. That is all.

[Karily]

ROFL! Why do I always forget to read an entire thread before posting?

Upsettingshorts wrote...

SuperCullen stepped into a phone booth between DAO and DA2.

[Eradussa]

oh for the love of all, please give me CULLEN for my hawke now LOL.

[Selenora]

Karily wrote...

If the developers would promise me, cross-their-heart-and-hope-to-die, that I'd have Varric and Cullen as romanceable options in DA3, I'd pre-pay tomorrow!



Karily

Me too
And that applies for Varric too. I dont like dwarfs in particular and i have only one pt with a f-dwarf in DAO and that unfinished, but Varric...i ended up loving the guy.
But even if we had him as a companion and a LI in any other game, Cullen will be my first and only option
Him and Kaidan form ME1 have stolen my heart.

Edit:
Can templars feel mages by detecting their magic? i have read so many ff that i can no longer know whats true and what's the writer's imagination.

Modifié par Selenora, 08 avril 2011 - 06:12 .