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[rak72]

Thanks, R2

Oo, top.  This is all I have:

Modifié par rak72, 23 août 2011 - 08:49 .

[Bekkael]

R2s Muse wrote...

rak72 wrote...

Schratty wrote...

I want Jakface's pin-up calendar so bad. Cullen is April's feature.

I want it too.   I don't see anyplace on the web site to place an order

Not sure, but the orig calendar site says that she'll be selling more after all the original ones are mailed out.

I want one too. I actually signed up for a meme prompt asking for a fic of each pic/month. I got July/Arishok (since Cullen was already taken) but....that was before I saw the pic. It was sent to me (as per Jak granting us permission so we could write what was pictured) and I just am not a slash writer, and it's hard to imagine how to work in a F!Hawke based on Volleyball!Arishok and smirking Jethann. *sigh* I'm still trying to work on it to see if I can pull it off. It would have been so much easier if it were Cullen instead...

Avilia wrote...
That's interesting with a male mage - I've never played a male in DA so I
didn't realise/think about the different conversation with Cullen.

I played a male mage origin for fic research (Anders fic), and also just to see how Cullen acted when he was talking to a bro. I really liked it, and may decide to go back and finish that character. I became somewhat fond of my Daylen. 

[Illusionary Ennui]

I might know where the Cullen's calendar fill is...

*kicks it*

It's almost done, I swear. But, Bekkael, if you want to jump in and fill it, go ahead - someone already to my claim for June before I could finish filling it, but I'd rather they get filled instead of sitting open.

Modifié par Illusionary Ennui, 23 août 2011 - 09:12 .

[Bekkael]

Illusionary Ennui wrote...

I might know where the Cullen's calendar fill is...

*kicks it*

It's almost done, I swear. But, Bekkael, if you want to jump in and fill it, go ahead - someone already to my claim for June before I could finish filling it, but I'd rather they get filled instead of sitting open.

Oh God, IE, not at all! I'm really just burnt out right now. Obviously, since I haven't added any more to your fill. *hides in shame* I adore the Arishok and was really looking forward to writing a sexy fill for it...but that was before I knew Jethann was in the pic. When I say it would be easier to do Cullen, I mean based on the calendar description of what he is doing, since I don't have that pic either.

That last chapter update of Twisted I did took more out of me than I realized, and I think the muse was just temporarily rendered comatose. I feel some mild interest in writing beginning to return though, so hopefully, I'll be back in the saddle before too long. I look forward to reading your Cullen fill. 

[Illusionary Ennui]

Bekkael wrote...

Oh God, IE, not at all! I'm really just burnt out right now. Obviously, since I haven't added any more to your fill. *hides in shame* I adore the Arishok and was really looking forward to writing a sexy fill for it...but that was before I knew Jethann was in the pic. When I say it would be easier to do Cullen, I mean based on the calendar description of what he is doing, since I don't have that pic either.

That last chapter update of Twisted I did took more out of me than I realized, and I think the muse was just temporarily rendered comatose. I feel some mild interest in writing beginning to return though, so hopefully, I'll be back in the saddle before too long. I look forward to reading your Cullen fill. 

I know how you feel... I've been poking away at it here an there, but my other works have been driving me mad to the point that I'm going through and editing each chapter. *sighs* But I hope to finish the calendar fill in the next fews days. In fact, I'll try to work on it now... now, Cullen, watch out for that coil of rope - the last thing you need is to drop her and ruin the mood.

And about Twisted... *hugs*

Modifié par Illusionary Ennui, 23 août 2011 - 10:27 .

[R2s Muse]

Avilia wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Schratty wrote...
I want Jakface's pin-up calendar so bad. Cullen is April's feature.

It's awesome... I have the digital version, but not yet the paper version. I finally had to ask her, and yes, he's laying in the rain, pulling one of those Flashdance-like ropes to dump additional water on himself. Kill me now.

Is that what he has in  his hand?  I wondered...  Oh I see yes.

Yeah, I was wracking my brain, coming up with strange theories, like it was a lock of hair. So I had to email her. Nope, my first, more banal thought was right. LOL

@IE and Bekk, that's cool that you're doing the calendar fills. I saw that they were all taken and was wondering who was doing Cullen. Heh, looking forward. Especially to an explanation of that rope.

[Illusionary Ennui]

 @ R2... I was actually kidding about that - just trying to be funny... but I suppose I could throw it in. Though, maybe not in the way your thinking, I'd imagine.  :innocent:

In the end, it'll just a desperate coupling of two people who just need to escape, if only for a moment. But, I shall say no more.

EDIT: I'm almost done... just the post love-making talk and the ending left.

Modifié par Illusionary Ennui, 24 août 2011 - 04:35 .

[ladyofpayne]

I am sure Cullen will be LI in DA 3 because of

• Pretty face.
• Warrior class.
• Sad past.
• Tragic love
• Chastity in 30 years.

[Galagraphia]

ladyofpayne wrote...

I am sure Cullen will be LI in DA 3 because of

• Pretty face.
• Warrior class.
• Sad past.
• Tragic love
• Chastity in 30 years.

It would be like a pre-release version of Alistair: an old templar veteran who doesn't know a word of love.

Hee, I see Cullen romance now like a Carth Onasi romance:

Cullen: You know...
PC: No, I don't.
Cullen: Of course you don't, that's why I want to share it.
PC: I'm all ears!
Cullen: Ok, you see... Err, you remind me of a woman I once knew. She was... well, special.
PC: Was she pretty?
Cullen: What? No! I mean yes! No. Wait. Actually I don't remember. It was 10 years ago. I was trying to remember, but I just couldn't.
PC: So. I remind you of a faceless woman? Creepy.
Cullen: *facepalm* Oh, Maker! Just shut up and forget I said anything!
PC: *giggles* Cullen-had-a-crush-on-a-faceless-chick! 
Cullen: *glares* She wasn't faceless! If we ever reach the Weisshaupt Fortress, I'll show you her grave and her statue and you'll see her face yourself!
PC: Oh, so she's dead?
Cullen: Yes. <_<
PC: 
Cullen's rivalry +20.

[Avilia]

 Cullen as concept art Alistair - the awesome would kill me 

I want to sig some of your dialogue - 'Cullen had a crush on a faceless chick' - that's too funny!

Edit - I made a man mage and ran the Origin to chat to Cullen.  Okay - who is that person?  So different!  I tried to help him discover what abominations looked like but he didn't seem confident at the end of our chat 

Modifié par Avilia, 24 août 2011 - 10:31 .

[R2s Muse]

I think his angst about the Templar Order alone would make for great LI drama. No matter how the whole mage-templar war goes down, it's bound to be different once the dust settles. Esp if there's the rumored exalted march coming.

EDIT: Or, I just had a horrible thought. Could he be *gasp* too old for DA3...? Maker noooooo!

Modifié par R2s Muse, 24 août 2011 - 10:40 .

[Avilia]

R2s Muse wrote...

I think his angst about the Templar Order alone would make for great LI drama. No matter how the whole mage-templar war goes down, it's bound to be different once the dust settles. Esp if there's the rumored exalted march coming.

EDIT: Or, I just had a horrible thought. Could he be *gasp* too old for DA3...? Maker noooooo!

Nah - he's a baby in Origins - 19 or something (contrary to what the model looks like), so he's 29/30 at the end of DA2.  That's still in nappies imho.


*Caveat - my age estimation is based on vague memory of it being mentioned somewhere and not to be taken as correct, factual or even close to accurate.

[Galagraphia]

I love men with some grey in their hair And I don't mind a templar veteran with lyrium addiction and a dead Surana in a closet.
Aww, I'm running through 2nd act, and Cullen just told my Hawke that he's sorry about her mom. Also, templar Carver said in Legacy that one day templars will claim the Deep Roads. Aww, good luck with that, little brother, I think the taint will claim you all first

[Avilia]

Galagraphia wrote...

I love men with some grey in their hair And I don't mind a templar veteran with lyrium addiction and a dead Surana in a closet.
Aww, I'm running through 2nd act, and Cullen just told my Hawke that he's sorry about her mom. Also, templar Carver said in Legacy that one day templars will claim the Deep Roads. Aww, good luck with that, little brother, I think the taint will claim you all first

Not literally though, right  

I refuse to get too excited about the idea of Cullen in DA3 - too much crushing disappointment was suffered when I found out Nate only got a 10 minute cameo in DA2.   There was wailing and gnashing of teeth that day I can tell you.


I bought the new DLC stuff - now I want to play just to try the new frocks on. I'm such an armour tart.

Modifié par Avilia, 24 août 2011 - 10:55 .

[Avilia]

Cullen, this page needs more:



(Oh I'm so witty, hurr hurr)

[Galagraphia]

Hee, I so want to replay m!Amell origin now

BTW, who used f!Amell or f!Surana save in DA2? Did you flirt with Cullen after your Harrowing? Does your codex in DA2 says that knight-captain had a secret crush on the warden?

I have a strange glitch: Cullen said that my Amell was a special woman, but there's nothing about it in the codex. I just don't get it.

[R2s Muse]

Avilia wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...
EDIT: Or, I just had a horrible thought. Could he be *gasp* too old for DA3...? Maker noooooo!

Nah - he's a baby in Origins - 19 or something (contrary to what the model looks like), so he's 29/30 at the end of DA2.  That's still in nappies imho.

Yeah, I was imagining early thirties. But, then, we'll likely get another of those wet-behind the ears Level One characters as our PC, so another 18-yr old or so. Eh. Would still work for me!

Avilia wrote...

Galagraphia wrote...
I love men with some grey in their hair And I don't mind a templar veteran with lyrium addiction and a dead Surana in a closet.

Not literally though, right  

LOL, my thought exactly! eeesh....

Edit: "I wonder if he had a sister..." lmao! All my brain keeps saying is, "Oh! Pick me! Pick me!"

Modifié par R2s Muse, 24 août 2011 - 01:31 .

[jamesp81]

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

The thing is, no matter what, the Chantry's into some bad juju. I won't say slavery, because I agree that this isn't that, not exactly, but definitely internment. I also think it qualifies as apartheid, but for neatness sake I usually call the mages' situation forced internment and the elves' situation apartheid... it's simpler that way, and they're both pretty clear examples of those particular societal wrongs.

In my mind, that makes the Chantry an evil empire. I mean, once you have a few centuries of forced internment and apartheid as part of your fundamental policy, you pretty much have stepped into that role. Especially when you're part of an international military organization that interferes with the independence of sovereign governments.

Now, my first game perspective was neither mage 'nor Templar; it was elven... Dalish. So I've always thought the whole "the only way to keep everyone safe is to lock away the mages," idea had absolutely no foundation in reality. My people had been living freely with their mage brothers and sisters for centuries with no serious problems beyond the occasional templar attack.

It's funny how the destruction of the Dales and the resulting apartheid that remains today are what make me put the Chantry in the "really bad" category rather than the "probably just misguided" category. When you engage in warfare with the aim of completely destroying another country and also eradicating their culture and religion, forcing them into ghettos, I'm going to have a hard time putting you in any column other than "probably a bad organization." Especially when you also use propaganda and revisionist history to engender hatred of a given race (the classification of the canticle of Shartan as heretical).

I'm not saying that everyone in the Chantry is a bad person... most of the people I know and like in Thedas are Andrastean. But I think that the more governmental and military leaders of the organization are pretty brutal and corrupt, more interested in power than the actual tenets of Andraste. So for me, any templar or chantry sister or brother is the functional equivalent of someone being on the "wrong side" of a war due to propaganda or nationalism... it's not really their fault, but if more people would think critically about the fundamental practices of the governmental organization they're fighting for, we'd probably have a lot fewer cases of "I was just following orders."

Interesting in that I view the Dalish as negatively as certain known bad elements, such as the templars themselves or even Orlais.  Take the examples of Velanna and the Sundermount clan.  Velanna's sister is killed by darkspawn, so she goes off half cocked and butchers a bunch of human merchants.  The Sundermount clan then shows a penchant for attacking Hawke after he very likely saved the clan from abomination Marethari.  So here, we have two instances of the Dalish being blood thirsty and then impulsively trying to kill the wrong people.  These people don't have any damn sense or self control.  Using a third example, let's look at Zathrian.  His need for revenge was so great, that it eventually consumed innocent bystanders.

So while I can agree with your view of the Chantry, the Dalish have showm themselves to be as bad as they are, albeit for different reasons.

Come to think of it, I think the least evil factions in the game are Ferelden and Orzammar, and that ought to tell you something considering that Ferelden nobles routinely use torture as an interrogation technique and considering that Orzammar treats its casteless worse than livestock.

[Sialater]

Galagraphia wrote...

Hee, I so want to replay m!Amell origin now

BTW, who used f!Amell or f!Surana save in DA2? Did you flirt with Cullen after your Harrowing? Does your codex in DA2 says that knight-captain had a secret crush on the warden?

I have a strange glitch: Cullen said that my Amell was a special woman, but there's nothing about it in the codex. I just don't get it.

I have an FSurana import and yeah, she did flirt with him.  I'll have to look at my codex when I play tonight to tell you.

[RagingCyclone]

jamesp81 wrote...
Interesting in that I view the Dalish as negatively as certain known bad elements, such as the templars themselves or even Orlais.  Take the examples of Velanna and the Sundermount clan.  Velanna's sister is killed by darkspawn, so she goes off half cocked and butchers a bunch of human merchants.  The Sundermount clan then shows a penchant for attacking Hawke after he very likely saved the clan from abomination Marethari.  So here, we have two instances of the Dalish being blood thirsty and then impulsively trying to kill the wrong people.  These people don't have any damn sense or self control.  Using a third example, let's look at Zathrian.  His need for revenge was so great, that it eventually consumed innocent bystanders.

So while I can agree with your view of the Chantry, the Dalish have showm themselves to be as bad as they are, albeit for different reasons.

Come to think of it, I think the least evil factions in the game are Ferelden and Orzammar, and that ought to tell you something considering that Ferelden nobles routinely use torture as an interrogation technique and considering that Orzammar treats its casteless worse than livestock.

Interesting view since I think of the Dalish as being similar to the Native American Indians of the 1870's through 1900 being hunted and slaughtered just because of who they are. The Exalted March on the Dales being similar to Wounded Knee. If DA3 does more with them, and Cullen does become a companion, I wonder what his take would be? Would he be more like Kevin Costner as in Dances with Wolves, or General Custer trying to exterminate them? I would think more a little of somewhere in between. But it's too soon to tell.

[Monica21]

RagingCyclone wrote...
Interesting view since I think of the Dalish as being similar to the Native American Indians of the 1870's through 1900 being hunted and slaughtered just because of who they are. The Exalted March on the Dales being similar to Wounded Knee. If DA3 does more with them, and Cullen does become a companion, I wonder what his take would be? Would he be more like Kevin Costner as in Dances with Wolves, or General Custer trying to exterminate them? I would think more a little of somewhere in between. But it's too soon to tell.

Eh, I don't really see that at all. The difference with Thedas is that there is no concentrated effort like Manifest Destiny, to acquire Dalish lands. That may be what you mean about hunting and slaughtering Native Americans, but it wasn't about them, it was about their land. I don't see any effort to deliberately slaughter the Dalish. At least in Ferelden, people don't seem to much mind them moving about. In DA3 they're parked on Sundermount for seven years with only one altercation from outsiders, and those are Templars looking for Feynriel. Nobody's bothering them or trying to get them to leave.

[RagingCyclone]

Monica21 wrote...

RagingCyclone wrote...
Interesting view since I think of the Dalish as being similar to the Native American Indians of the 1870's through 1900 being hunted and slaughtered just because of who they are. The Exalted March on the Dales being similar to Wounded Knee. If DA3 does more with them, and Cullen does become a companion, I wonder what his take would be? Would he be more like Kevin Costner as in Dances with Wolves, or General Custer trying to exterminate them? I would think more a little of somewhere in between. But it's too soon to tell.

Eh, I don't really see that at all. The difference with Thedas is that there is no concentrated effort like Manifest Destiny, to acquire Dalish lands. That may be what you mean about hunting and slaughtering Native Americans, but it wasn't about them, it was about their land. I don't see any effort to deliberately slaughter the Dalish. At least in Ferelden, people don't seem to much mind them moving about. In DA3 they're parked on Sundermount for seven years with only one altercation from outsiders, and those are Templars looking for Feynriel. Nobody's bothering them or trying to get them to leave.

I don't mean in a direct parallel, that would be impossible. But there were other factors in the Indian Wars besides land. Yes, that was the main government stance, but there was also a concetrated push to "bring God to the heathen" as many back then tried to do. That was why on many reservations they were forced to change their names to Christian names and give up speaking their own language. The parallel I see is that elves are forced from their homes (the Dales) and wander the lands or live in alienages. (Not all Native Americans were nomadic like the plains Indians). Where the Dalish are not necessarily hunted, they are feared and avoided (Dalish Origin beginning). And as Merrill states all Keepers wield magic and is a main reason the clans wander to avoid the Templars and chantry. And the clan on Sundermount I get the impression is not widely known about in Kirkwall. I'm sure after that amount of time Meredith would have sent Templars after the clan had she known for certain they were there the whole time. It's entirely possible Cullen is not even aware of the Dalish there since he never mentions them at all. 

Modifié par RagingCyclone, 24 août 2011 - 05:24 .

[Monica21]

RagingCyclone wrote...
Where the Dalish are not necessarily hunted, they are feared and avoided (Dalish Origin beginning). And as Merrill states all Keepers wield magic and is a main reason the clans wander to avoid the Templars and chantry. And the clan on Sundermount I get the impression is not widely known about in Kirkwall. I'm sure after that amount of time Meredith would have sent Templars after the clan had she known for certain they were there the whole time. It's entirely possible Cullen is not even aware of the Dalish there since he never mentions them at all. 

Since Templars were the confronters in Act 2, I don't see how Meredith couldn't have known. She or Cullen may very well have sent the Templars there to get Feynriel. There's really very little reason for Cullen to say anything about them, so I'm not surprised that he doesn't. 

I think Meredith is more concerned with the circle mages than a clan of Dalish, though if she had won she might very well have decided that Sundermount was next.

[Yankee23]

R2s Muse wrote...

I think his angst about the Templar Order alone would make for great LI drama. No matter how the whole mage-templar war goes down, it's bound to be different once the dust settles. Esp if there's the rumored exalted march coming.

EDIT: Or, I just had a horrible thought. Could he be *gasp* too old for DA3...? Maker noooooo!

Well, first off I think it's about time we a got a little more "mature" LI. I would have been all over Teagan!

I agree about Cullen being great choice to create some LI drama in the middle of the mage/templar war. It's not out of the realm of possibilty that he could be promoted after the events in Kirkwall. It could be really interesting to find our next protagonist in a romance with a major player in the conflict. He could be our first non-companion LI.

Modifié par Yankee23, 24 août 2011 - 07:00 .

[R2s Muse]

Historical allusions aside, I think it is an interesting notion, that if the Chantry feels itself threatened following the events of DA2 that they go aggro crazy and decide they need to manage all the mages in Thedas, including the Dalish. Of course, I think they'll have their hands full with the formerly Circle mages, so resources would be an issue.

IIRC, Merril comments briefly on the fact that one of the reasons they don't stay close to human settlements for long is also because of the templars. I didn't necessarily get any sense that the Kirkwall chantry/templars are too concerned about the Dalish during DA2, but afterwards it might be an interesting [read: probably foolhardy] strategic choice for the Chantry as a whole.

Dunno what Cullen would think of that. If he believes in the Circle model and that mages need to be managed and protected, then I suppose a mage is a mage. On the other hand, the Dalish system has been working and I'm not sure if Andraste really addresses elven mages in her stuff (?), so he might be practical enough to go with an "if it ain't broke..." kind of attitude.

Of course all that's predicated on whether or not he's even a templar afterwards...