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[Raiil]

ejoslin wrote...

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

wait wait all of them are messed up? i never got any presents from alistair, do you only get it with a mage warden? D:

Yes, they're all messed up.  The Alistair lines I quoted were from a Gray Warden Alistair when you get the Warden's Oath necklace (I believe).

Also, there are lines if you're his mistress.  His wife line is triggering properly, but that's because it is not romance related (my political marriage queen Cousland got that line in an unmodded game).  Leliana most definitely doesn't give her proper lines.

Zevran's is the worst because you have him cheating on the warden.  There are severe issues with the imports -- but Zevran's problems most likely go beyond these to dialog bugs as fixing the import flags leads to different bugs.

What are the mistress lines? My chancellor Amell wishes to know~

[Addai]

ejoslin wrote...

Also, there are lines if you're his mistress.  His wife line is triggering properly, but that's because it is not romance related (my political marriage queen Cousland got that line in an unmodded game).  Leliana most definitely doesn't give her proper lines.

Oh?  What is he supposed to say?  *curious*

[ejoslin]

Ok, this looks to be a conversation between King Alistair and Teagan.

Indeed. You-know-who should already have returned from her mission.

Is she? Well! Let's not tell the queen, then.

Wouldn't dream of it, Your Majesty.

I assume those are if Alistair is married to Anora because there is also this line which I would assume triggers if Alistair is sole king:

Is she? Well! The day's looking up already.

Also, there are these gossips:

I heard the Hero of Ferelden married Queen Anora, but is keeping an elven lover. Scandalous.

You hear about King Alistair of Ferelden? He has an elven mistress. Hope his queen never finds out.

I understand King Alistair has proven adequate, although the queen seems to allow him certain... liberties in his company.

Modifié par ejoslin, 22 mars 2011 - 02:54 .

[Raiil]

Aw, ty, I'd have the 'day is looking up already' comment.

[Heather Cline]

I would also like the LI's from DA:O to be read correctly. Especially when people like myself have imported from Witch Hunt or Golems.

[Naitaka]

Leliana is fixable by fiddling with the savefile or the import script, but Zevran one seems fundementally broken.

[payroo]

ejoslin wrote...

Ok, this looks to be a conversation between King Alistair and Teagan.

Indeed. You-know-who should already have returned from her mission.

Is she? Well! Let's not tell the queen, then.

Wouldn't dream of it, Your Majesty.

I assume those are if Alistair is married to Anora because there is also this line which I would assume triggers if Alistair is sole king:

Is she? Well! The day's looking up already.

Also, there are these gossips:

I heard the Hero of Ferelden married Queen Anora, but is keeping an elven lover. Scandalous.

You hear about King Alistair of Ferelden? He has an elven mistress. Hope his queen never finds out.

I understand King Alistair has proven adequate, although the queen seems to allow him certain... liberties in his company.

Hmm, there are no gossip lines for mage or dwarf mistresses? 

[okiness]

Why is the least romantic line being married to Alistair? DG was even like "Yes, because it's not romantic to marry the one you love more than anything" in that no kids for you thread (paraphrasing) Everyone else gets such beautiful stuff...or should.....fix this so I can import my Zevran stuff.

[galian77]

Ahh...good to know it's bugged :x

I didn't want to import my mage's saved game because of this...waiting for this to get fixed before I do my 2nd playthrough >.>

[vocalemuse]

I agree, this really needs to be fixed. x_x So...

Please add this fix into the next patch, Bioware folks! *begs*

[Mox Ruuga]

Faramac wrote...

Add my name to the list of pleaders. It's like EA just decided that nobody cares about Zevran. Which I don't doubt they did decide. And I get a bad, uncomfortable feeling that it's only because he made straight male homophobes get their briefs in a twist.

 So I guess Alistair and Leliana are bugged because of those ev0l straight men too?

[Mox Ruuga]

ejoslin wrote...

Ok, this looks to be a conversation between King Alistair and Teagan.

Indeed. You-know-who should already have returned from her mission.

Is she? Well! Let's not tell the queen, then.

Wouldn't dream of it, Your Majesty.

I assume those are if Alistair is married to Anora because there is also this line which I would assume triggers if Alistair is sole king:

Is she? Well! The day's looking up already.

Also, there are these gossips:

I heard the Hero of Ferelden married Queen Anora, but is keeping an elven lover. Scandalous.

You hear about King Alistair of Ferelden? He has an elven mistress. Hope his queen never finds out.

I understand King Alistair has proven adequate, although the queen seems to allow him certain... liberties in his company.

I wonder if that last line is about dwarven and non-queen human mistresses?

Thanks for digging out this stuff, its depressing yet fascinating. I have a bad feeling it'll be all up to the modding community to make sure we see this stuff in the actual game.

[wildannie]

Just adding my support for a swift fix to this bug. Zev fans were short changed, being the only LI not appearing in origins DLC (not counting DSC).

It was great to have a Zev mission in DA2. However, if this bug is not fixed, Bioware need not have bothered with the cameo at all (imo).

[V_Burgh]

I support all of the LI's being fixed as well as all the cameos reading your choices properly. I've only beaten DAII once thus far and it was from my human male mage that romanced Morrigan so I didn't have any of these bugs, yet. Though Bann Teagan did claim to King Alistair that my character was due back in Denerim soon, though in the file I imported my Warden went through the Eluvian with Morrigan to help her prepare for whatever change was coming. I rather doubt that if my Warden did pop back into Thedas he would be giving everyone an itinerary of his and Morrigan's schedule. 
The next file I will import will be my human noble that romanced Leliana and I will be displeased if they haven't fixed it to acknowledge that I romanced her.
And I'm sure when I import her my femdalish rogue Warden will be very displeased if Zevran offers to fornicate with everything that moves in DAII. 

[TeamLexana]

Is Queen Cousland with Zevran mistress suspose get any shoutouts in game? hehe. My ps3 melted so I've been updating a new Queen Cousland to plug into my Xbox SE DA2. Marrying Alistair wasn't a political move either, she loves both men. Besides... with her and Alistair both being Warden's Zevran is her best chance of making an heir, lmao. I kid, I kid.

[Maria13]

Please fix these bugs BW! It is harming your most constant gamers...

and could some kind soul give me the location of the fan fix?

Thanks.

[ejoslin]

 Just warning you, the mod which fixes import flags only seems to work for Leliana.  Zevran remains completely bugged, though with a couple of different bugs, and I've seen complaints about Alistair as well (though not as severe).  This isn't the fault of the mod -- it's just that the issues with Zevran go beyond the scope of the mod.  Import fix.

I nearly cried when Zevran remained bugged.  When I got his Ultimate Sacrifice lines mixed in as well, it was horrible.  What was worse was the mix of Ultimate Sacrifice lines and non-romance lines.  It's like... even worse!

His bugs just go beyond the import flags :/

Modifié par ejoslin, 22 mars 2011 - 11:14 .

[Lara Denton]

I'm just adding my support here. I think that a lot of people care about this and I really hope that Bioware will fix these encounters. They did a great job in including various scenarios, it is such a shame not being able to see them!

I was disappointed when Alistair didn't mention the warden (now I know why), but I would have been totally furious if he would have been sleeping around!

[ejoslin]

TeamLexana wrote...

Is Queen Cousland with Zevran mistress suspose get any shoutouts in game? hehe. My ps3 melted so I've been updating a new Queen Cousland to plug into my Xbox SE DA2. Marrying Alistair wasn't a political move either, she loves both men. Besides... with her and Alistair both being Warden's Zevran is her best chance of making an heir, lmao. I kid, I kid.

Just an FYI, you missed Zevran's confession of feelings (the sweetest part of his romance) unless you started Alistair's romance REALLY late.  You can't complete Zevran's romance without asking him to the tent in camp after he falls in love and this cannot be done if the romance is active with Alistair.

Anyway, to answer your question, I haven't seen a gossip in the talktable, but Alistair does acknowledge the marriage whether it's political or not (same lines).

Modifié par ejoslin, 22 mars 2011 - 11:39 .

[Inujade]

Really? Alistair's lines are the same whether it was a political marriage or a romantic one? That seems...off. And also a little unsettling. Now I have no way of knowing if my Alistair actually remembers being in love with my Cousland. :S

The Zevran fans obviously have it the worst, but at least you'll be able to tell when it's fixed. Silver lining? *weak smile*

FIX THIS, BIOWARE. If it was just ONE LI who was bugged I could maybe see them ignoring it, but all of them? If this doesn't take priority then I don't know what does.

[ejoslin]

Hopefully it WILL be fixed. Most of Zevran's bugs remained as-is in Origins, which lead to some really bad impressions of the romance (friendship lines triggering where romance lines should in a pivotal conversation just being one of them).

But the cameos are such obvious fanservice, and having them bugged this way have the opposite impact of what was meant. Of course ZevFans would have complained if he had no cameo, but over the internetz, I've seen nothing but anger and confusion with a few people making excuses as to why he would be acting this way.

Before DA2 was released, many people joked about this happening (Zevran having sex with Hawke, forgetting all about the warden for the LULZ). That it actually happened was a shock. That it happened because of bugs is just a shame.

Edit: And yeh, I think Queen Couslands probably have it the worst if romanced unless the lines for a romanced queen are elsewhere in the talktable which is possible.  I didn't read every line of dialog.

Modifié par ejoslin, 22 mars 2011 - 12:26 .

[Sabriana]

Zevran fans always seem to get the worst of it, imo.

[tee_bird]

laradenton wrote...

I'm just adding my support here. I think that a lot of people care about this and I really hope that Bioware will fix these encounters. They did a great job in including various scenarios, it is such a shame not being able to see them!

I was disappointed when Alistair didn't mention the warden (now I know why), but I would have been totally furious if he would have been sleeping around!

No kidding.  The way Alistair talked, it sounded like my warden was dead.  "This belonged to an old friend.  She would have wanted you to have it."

[Inujade]

Hmm. Well, if anyone does find out if King Alistair has romanced lines for a Queen, I for one would love to hear about them!

I romanced Zevran on my third playthrough with a casteless dwarf, and it would absolutely break my heart if I imported that save and saw this buggy nonsense. PARTICULARLY since poor Zev's bad reputation makes it not immediately obvious that it IS a bug, despite the fact that by the end of his romance he clearly associates sex with love, no longer just pleasure.

I saw on another thread that they were planning on fixing a dialogue bug with Aveline for a very similiar reason (the bug stopped you from seeing writing that was made for the situation). So since it seems they are already working on this sort of thing, I hope they will extend it to the DAO LI's.

[ejoslin]

Inujade wrote...

Hmm. Well, if anyone does find out if King Alistair has romanced lines for a Queen, I for one would love to hear about them!

I romanced Zevran on my third playthrough with a casteless dwarf, and it would absolutely break my heart if I imported that save and saw this buggy nonsense. PARTICULARLY since poor Zev's bad reputation makes it not immediately obvious that it IS a bug, despite the fact that by the end of his romance he clearly associates sex with love, no longer just pleasure.

I saw on another thread that they were planning on fixing a dialogue bug with Aveline for a very similiar reason (the bug stopped you from seeing writing that was made for the situation). So since it seems they are already working on this sort of thing, I hope they will extend it to the DAO LI's.

I was pretty sure it was a bug, but it still was just a WTF moment.  I'm trying a new playthrough from an Origins import with the import flags fixed to see if the issue really is with a WH or Awakening import + flag bug (as apparently Leliana is).  Somehow I don't think so.  But it's nice to be sure.