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Ace Attorney

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Does the Unforgiving Chain talent work with a Bow?

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naughty99

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 no, but I found it best to put some points into archery as well as dual wield.
depends on your playstyle, but I use ranged attacks quite a bit, but then I get in close with daggers on petrified bosses for max assassinate damage

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You know Assasinate is based on your weapon damage, so using it with a Bow will always do more damage than doing it with an equal quality Dagger, right?

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But Assassinate hits twice with daggers so it evens out.

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Kazoot wrote...

But Assassinate hits twice with daggers so it evens out.

Even so, switch for "doing more damage" is fruitless. If they do comparable damage, by switching you lost a bit of Auto Attack damage from moving to melee. Net loss.

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i have never seen screenshots of 100k+ damage for bow assassinate.

I saw one with daggers on Orsino for 144k damage (89k + 55k in the other hand).

I don't think it's possible for bow assassinate to ever do that much damage, even with the most powerful bows.

In general I have found with bosses, bow assassinate seems to do quite a bit less damage, I've only managed to one-shot lieutenants with bows, but I have one-shotted a number of elite-level bosses with daggers.

The bow i'm using is Felon's Punch Gut 86 dmg + 22 spirit dmg rune IIRC, with some crit bonuses.

The daggers I'm using are Coterie Shiv and another dagger - I think damage is around 30-35 for each one, plus crit bonuses.

Modifié par naughty99, 20 mars 2011 - 05:19 .


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The Strongest bow does around three times as much damage as the strongest dagger per hit. If you get two hits from the dagger, it still doesn't beat it. http://www.gamepur.c...ions-guide.html

Modifié par T3hAnubis, 20 mars 2011 - 05:18 .


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I'll certainly do some testing to try to determine the highest crit I can get with a bow.

Please post here if you have some results.

I suspect there is some other mechanic in play that results in higher crits for daggers.

Modifié par naughty99, 20 mars 2011 - 05:27 .


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Unforgiving Chain specifically says basic melee attacks.