TJSolo wrote...
Oh poo, I forgot about the super-demon-god child option for taking out the Arch Demon.
Nothing negative about that.
Modifié par Froswald, 22 mars 2011 - 06:14 .
saresy wrote...
I loved Origins like anyone but I love the new system, including the wheel. Sentences to choose from often didn't show the emotion I wanted from the line to the person I was speaking to. I prefer to choose the emotion.
arathor_87 wrote...
No, VA on a main character costs alot of money. That's the reason why DA:O didn't have VA on the Warden. Three different races. It would have been a lot of money.
With a muted character you get more options since you can play the game in your pace. If the story in DA2 was as deep as the one in DA:O the game would have been very very slow since the options would have been so many.
And ít would have been very expensive. In DA2 you get short lines like: A) I'm hungryYes C) Kill him D) Shut up
Modifié par Bourne Endeavor, 22 mars 2011 - 06:22 .
Bourne Endeavor wrote...
arathor_87 wrote...
No, VA on a main character costs alot of money. That's the reason why DA:O didn't have VA on the Warden. Three different races. It would have been a lot of money.
With a muted character you get more options since you can play the game in your pace. If the story in DA2 was as deep as the one in DA:O the game would have been very very slow since the options would have been so many.
And ít would have been very expensive. In DA2 you get short lines like: A) I'm hungry
Video game voice actors typically clear under the $50,000 range whilst better know individuals may command slightly more. Of course this excludes celebrity voice actors. Now an approximated $100,000 to $200,000 cost for a single character may seem expensive by initial perception and for many of us it would be. For BioWare, I beg to differ. They are allotted a budget ranging in the tens of millions. I would estimate Mass Effect 2 cost close to fifty million to produce. Do not tell me they cannot afford ample dialogue sessions.
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It is less the cost and more the implication that bodes problematic. I imagine technology only allows for so many possible lines to be chosen at a single given moment. Although Alpha Protocol did a fairly decent attempt at depth in voice acting.
On the topic at hand. I hold preference to voiced character. I haven't the need nor desire to imagine myself as the character and have nary a qualm envisioning who my character is. Sassy femhawke for instance was a welcone addition I nigh squeed for given my penchant for sarcasm. Perhaps my years of dedication to JRPGs has led me to become accustom to the main character being less myself and their own entity.
Such is not to insinuate I would dislike a scripted silent protagonist provided the dialogue options warranted acclaim, but I fancy hearing the response and witnessing the reaction; both facial and body. With that in mind I would loathe a Mass Effect where Shepard was not voiced.
xandrian29 wrote...
Bourne Endeavor wrote...
arathor_87 wrote...
No, VA on a main character costs alot of money. That's the reason why DA:O didn't have VA on the Warden. Three different races. It would have been a lot of money.
With a muted character you get more options since you can play the game in your pace. If the story in DA2 was as deep as the one in DA:O the game would have been very very slow since the options would have been so many.
And ít would have been very expensive. In DA2 you get short lines like: A) I'm hungry
Video game voice actors typically clear under the $50,000 range whilst better know individuals may command slightly more. Of course this excludes celebrity voice actors. Now an approximated $100,000 to $200,000 cost for a single character may seem expensive by initial perception and for many of us it would be. For BioWare, I beg to differ. They are allotted a budget ranging in the tens of millions. I would estimate Mass Effect 2 cost close to fifty million to produce. Do not tell me they cannot afford ample dialogue sessions.
Source
It is less the cost and more the implication that bodes problematic. I imagine technology only allows for so many possible lines to be chosen at a single given moment. Although Alpha Protocol did a fairly decent attempt at depth in voice acting.
On the topic at hand. I hold preference to voiced character. I haven't the need nor desire to imagine myself as the character and have nary a qualm envisioning who my character is. Sassy femhawke for instance was a welcone addition I nigh squeed for given my penchant for sarcasm. Perhaps my years of dedication to JRPGs has led me to become accustom to the main character being less myself and their own entity.
Such is not to insinuate I would dislike a scripted silent protagonist provided the dialogue options warranted acclaim, but I fancy hearing the response and witnessing the reaction; both facial and body. With that in mind I would loathe a Mass Effect where Shepard was not voiced.
I think I agree with you, but you use a lot of nerdy words in your prose.
MJRick wrote...
anything bad happen yet.....didnt think so.TJSolo wrote...
Oh poo, I forgot about the super-demon-god child option for taking out the Arch Demon.
Nothing negative about that.
As far as you or anyone else that isn't developing canonical lore is
aware of, nothing negative happened because of that. You're kind of
making MJRick's point for him.
Modifié par TJSolo, 22 mars 2011 - 07:43 .
MasterSamson88 wrote...
Narreneth wrote...
Mrwakka wrote...
I think that may be it, the entire dragon age 2 storyline is about railroading you down one of two extremes. Since I tend to not be a fanatic, and sought a peaceful resolution first, it never felt like anything he did was entirely my choice.
That's kind of the point. It's a lot more realisitic of an outcome. Hawke, no matter how important, is only one person. Not everything can be worked out diplomatically. My first playthrough I played a reasonable advocate for mages. When it came down to it though, there's not a lot reason can do when your opposition is Meredith and she's having her Templars outright exterminate the people you're trying to protect. It's not supposed to be a happy ending where everyone hugs and kisses and makes up.
Right, it is more realistic because not everything has a diplomatic solution to it. There's no way Hawke is going to be able to reason with the Divine in reguards to how Mages should be treated. Because when it comes to the Chantry and Templars it's one way overall for the Mages. They don't compromise, people have tried, but the Chantry never has any of it. Heck the Warden can try to free the circle in Ferelden with a boon but in the end the Divine essentially tells the Warden to get lost and mind their own business. Reason doesn't always work, especially with radical Templars.
TJSolo wrote...
MJRick wrote...
anything bad happen yet.....didnt think so.TJSolo wrote...
Oh poo, I forgot about the super-demon-god child option for taking out the Arch Demon.
Nothing negative about that.
The essence of the Archdemon is inside the Warden's child.
That is not anything bad at all.As far as you or anyone else that isn't developing canonical lore is
aware of, nothing negative happened because of that. You're kind of
making MJRick's point for him.
Am not.
I made a post that used several sarcastic events to point out the how wrong MJRick's statement that most of the decisions on DAO had options to that would allow for win-win situations is. At this point MJRick and you are nagging that ignorance is bliss for one example instead of providing any sort of to support MJRick's point.
Razcalking1978 wrote...
Oh please.Useless question, of course the Mute Warden was more "your character", he/she had no personality at all.
Now which one is a BETTER character? Hawke, by miles.
Modifié par arathor_87, 22 mars 2011 - 09:10 .
Mrwakka wrote...
I disagree completely.
Compromise could exist, its why certain things occured at the end, with the specific goal of preventing compromise. Without that, the chantry could have continued a level of peace between the circle and templars. Now obviously the circle and templars were both corrupted, and there would have been issues, but a full out war need never have happened.
cachx wrote...
I also happen to think that the concept of "immersion" is utterly stupid, but that may be a conversation for another time.
Modifié par Beovuk, 22 mars 2011 - 11:38 .
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