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Does anyone wish you could have sided with the Arishok?


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 A third option, let's say? In case you didn't want to be apart of the whole Templar vs. Mage struggle?

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MKDAWUSS

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Yes. Especially if that was the main conflict instead of Templar vs. Mages.

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XX-Pyro

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No, I respected the Arishok, and he was probably the best adversary in any BioWare game I've played, but siding with him would spiral the game in a completely different direction. It's like siding with Loghain in Origins, just doesn't work.

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I won't lie - by Act 3 I was ready to turn to the Qun. Unfortunately my pc was a mage so that probably wouldn't have ended well for her.

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Act 3 wouldn't have happened, you wouldn't be the Champion of Kirkwall, and the mage uprising wouldn't have happened. It would be like choosing not to be a Gray Warden and just sitting at home and drinking a beer in Origins. The decisions we're presented have to be directed on some level. Every game does it to some extent.

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Yes, but story-wise, I cannot see how it wouldn't end things rather quickly and leave the whole "Chantry in peril" as an unrelated event, making Varric's interrogation into a pointless waste of the Seeker's time.

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I did.

Anaan esaam Qun.

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Medhia Nox

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I wanted to have Aveline gather up her guardsmen and grab both the Circle and the Templars and shove them in prision until I could sort this out. Viscount Hawke and his Guard Captain Aveline and their new city of Kirkwall.

We'd reform the Circle (I'm a mage and I support the Circle) - reform the Templars - and put anyone who didn't agree with us to the sword (or onto ships and send them across the Waking Sea).

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Barring that - yeah, I'd side with the Arishok.

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Nah. Hawke needs an open, free sky to soar. Plus, Qunari attacking her just because she has a mage sister? No way bro. Take your Qun shove it where sun doesn't shine, thankyouverymuch.

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Yes. Although it would change Act 3 a lot even though it was the shortest act so it could work.
Have Meredith and Orsino have to keep working together to try and liberate the city, you could even have the same Main quests just be given slightly different motivations for doing them, Sarebaas are roaming the city and the Wounded Coast and the Arishok wants you to deal with it. End game the Mages and Templars attack to get the city back and you have to push them back to the Gallows.
You'd still have to fight Flesh Golem Orsino and Lyrium Idol Meredith at the end just you'd be fighting with the aid of Qunari instead of Mages/Templars. The Arishok could even show up and help.
The chantry falling to pieces could just refer Qunari having a new foothold into Thedas and conversions being extremely high, along with a decisive victory over some of the Chantry's most powerful forces.
Things likely wouldn't end well for Merril, Anders, Isabela, sibling and possibly Aveline. But Fenris would be cool with it. Maybe Varric would to.

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I don´t think that decision would have worked, and i think the current ending of giving back the relic + isabela is the closest you can get to allying. Perhaps the arishok could have changed his speech and said something different instead of "we´ll back", but really, it is impossible to be the champion of kirkwall if you sided with the quanri agaisnt the populace. You would be more like the traitor of kirkwall.

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Even though I chose (in one of my games and was sad faced about) to turn isabella in so I could be good with the arishok, it made me sad.. Cause I love the Qunari and how prideful they are in their ways. They are such a strong and loyal group to one Ideal... I hated I couldn't detour them my way more.

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It wouldn't make sense in the story, but I'm just saying if you wish you could have joined the Qunari regardless.

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No not really.

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Yeahhhhh.

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I hated the Arishok, I hate the Qunari, I wanted to kill the last few Qunari lerft in the city after beating them in their own back yard.

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At least you could have trusted that he wasn't going to have a spaz attack, freak out and turn into a Harvester (since apparently blood magic=flesh golems that were sealed away in Amgarrak...) even AFTER you've sided WITH him.

I respected him more than any NPC in the game but joining him isn't really an option.

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PirateT138 wrote...

At least you could have trusted that he wasn't going to have a spaz attack, freak out and turn into a Harvester (since apparently blood magic=flesh golems that were sealed away in Amgarrak...) even AFTER you've sided WITH him.

I respected him more than any NPC in the game but joining him isn't really an option.


Like I said, this is a hypothetical situation. What if you could join him?

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PirateT138 wrote...
I respected him more than any NPC in the game but joining him isn't really an option.


I agree..even though he turned against me I had more respect with his decisions then any of the other characters in the game...  Still on toss up about Anders decision to blow up the freakin holy mother.....:unsure:

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Capt. Obvious wrote...

PirateT138 wrote...

At least you could have trusted that he wasn't going to have a spaz attack, freak out and turn into a Harvester (since apparently blood magic=flesh golems that were sealed away in Amgarrak...) even AFTER you've sided WITH him.

I respected him more than any NPC in the game but joining him isn't really an option.


Like I said, this is a hypothetical situation. What if you could join him?


Possibly, justice and equality are fairly highly held principles in the Qun (as long as you're not a mage).  They're got a lot of good things going for them even if they do have extreme uniformity.

Modifié par PirateT138, 20 mars 2011 - 10:08 .


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Hell no. Qunari don't play well with others.

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I didn't want to join him, I wanted him to be the Big Bad of DA2. He was a foe worthy of respect. The dude was doing what he thought was right, living by what his code demanded of him. HIM I would have enjoyed fighting, because it would have been different. It wouldn't have been the tired old cliche of "Waaaaah, the big bad guy is being mean to all us little folk. Waaaah, go kill him/her." It would have been a clash of cultures, of religions, of fundamental beliefs.

It would have been a lot more fun for me, I think.

But no, we kill him halfway through the story. Regardless of what choices we make.

Pity.

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No. I respect the Qunari for their sense of honor and love for order, but that's it.

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Yes. No game has ever truly offered a dynamic range of conclusions. If they had allowed you to ally with the Arishok, it would have been incredibly revolutionary.

Modifié par Unichrone, 20 mars 2011 - 10:18 .


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Nah. he's evil to the core. Want proof? the way he just casually the former Viscount's head down the stairs reeks of wanton cruelty. The way he orders his goon to murder the commoner/nobleman whod ared to speak up in the same scene. The way his two goons are dragging the poor girl through the streets.

They twist their own mages' minds into such a contorted mess they actually believe they should be killed or ensalved. That's sick.

You know the arishok claims that only those who choose the Qun is acdeptable, and they don't force converstions. That's not true. Fenris states this (and he's a valuable source of the qun) where he tells Isabella in act 3 that she should thank Hawke for saving her b/c if they had taken her they would have brainwashed her into either being one with the Qun and if it doesn't take she would be tranquiled into being a slave.

Yup, these guys are cool dudes. NOT.

They make the chantry practices almosts seem civil.


I earned his respect but I turned down his duel because I didn't feel he deserved such an 'honourable' death. What a piece of crap.