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DA2 contains the highest proportion of companions I didn't like in a BioWare game.


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Merrill was cute. Varric was awesome.

Everyone else was just flat.

Do you any of you guys agree? Besides Merrill and Varric, everyone else in your party felt so flat. Fenris was the stereotypical angsty JRPG character. Sebastian had his entire family murdered and sought refuge in religion. Anders was the rebel. Aveline was a "law and order" sort of person. Perhaps their personalities didn't mesh well with me, or perhaps a lot of the companions in DA2 were lacking that special "quirk" that made them lovable and admired. Or perhaps it wasn't presented very well.

In Mass Effect 2, I loved all the squadmates. Everyone had a quirk that had some appeal. Mordin could sing Gilbert and Sullivan. Thane was facing imminent death. Miranda lacked confidence despite her cool and confident exterior. Grunt was an artifical krogan. Jack had a very difficult childhood.

Yet, it wasn't the quirks by themselves that make characters appreciable - it is the presentation of such quirks that give the quirks themselves their appeal.

Aveline redeemed herself in my eyes when I did her quest with Donnic - because it gave her a situation in which she was able to exhibit her quirk (insecurity around men) in such a forceful and dynamic way. 

My incoherency is beginning to crop up again, but do any of you agree? Perhaps it's because these characters spoke so little that they were allowed enough opportunities to show off their true colors?

Modifié par XX55XX, 21 mars 2011 - 01:58 .


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MelfinaofOutlawStar

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To be fair Merrill wasn't that in depth either. She was the awkward lovable girl next door. Tali without the spacesuit.

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Nah. I liked them all.

Merrill - I speak at length about her all the time, so no need right now. (edit: I disagree 100% with the person above me, though, and she's nothing like Tali)

Varric - entertaining, charming, hilarious take on dwarven customs.

Fenris - fun to tweak about mages, and I love Tevinter so I enjoyed hearing bits about it from him. Yeah, he's angsty and that gets annoying but I enjoyed hating him.

Sebastian - he's... a little flat, but I hate the Chantry so I enjoyed annoying him.

Aveline - bland. Agreed. I can see why some people like her, though.

Anders - ehhh. No real opinion. Liked him ranting against the Templars though.

Isabela - Hate her. Hate her so much. But that makes her interesting too. She's not a bad character, and I enjoy being mean to her.

DA:O had an excellent, very charming set of characters. DA2's characters are harder to like, but seem deeper.

And I couldn't stand the characters in ME2, so there you go.

Modifié par Emperor Iaius I, 21 mars 2011 - 01:59 .


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Funny, I liked all the guys, the girls were meh, ok, nothing that stood out and I disliked Izzy.

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Perhaps I should reword my thread title.

I didn't outwardly hate any of the characters, but some of them were just lacking appeal. Merrill appealed to me because she was just like Liara and Tali mashed together, and who doesn't like Varric? He was designed to be extremely likeable.

But everyone else... a "meh" feeling comes over me.

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I only disliked one of the companions which is the usual for me with BW games. Everyone else I like.

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Eh, I didn't much care for a lot of the ME companions either. On Virmire I could have walked off into the sunset with Garrus and Wrex and been perfectly content. In ME2 I liked Legion and Mordin in addition to Garrus, but the rest were bleh.

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I disagree, I loved all of them. Well except Carver who needs to just get over himself, but I don't hate him either. I like him well enough, he's just my least favorite.

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MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

To be fair Merrill wasn't that in depth either. She was the awkward lovable girl next door. Tali without the spacesuit.


Gah! Yuck!

Merrill is NOT Tali.

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I enjoyed all of them to be honest.

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DeaHamlet

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I either loved or hated each one of them.
And that makes them interesting. None of them left me uninterested.

Now Miranda... SHE was boring. Very boring. *yawn*

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Oh, I forgot about Carver. He can shove it, LOL.
Except I started an evil aggressive playthrough... I somehow like him more in this one than with my good mage... hmmm. Interesting.

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I liked them all but Carver. I had a hard time choosing my party most of the time

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I actually liked all of them. Which is a first, because previous Bioware games had Imoen, Carth, Dawn Star, Kaidan, Samara, and Alistair.

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I prefer DA2 companions to Origins companions any day of the week.

I gotta defend Fenris first. There are too many people who push him aside from the get go. Studying his character, he is really a tragic character. Slave, abused, runaway, he had every reason to be pissy. And he isn't like that 24/7. He is calm and collected, only in rage when slavers are around.

Anders, though I dislike him personally, is a terrific character. He is utterly tragic. He sacrifices his own self for his ideals. He wasn't like in Awakenings, making half assed jokes and prepping his kitty for cuddles. Anders took charge for the mages' plight.

Yes Aveline was the just and orderly gal. Thats her character. She is jsut adorable and awkward. She was my Wynne of DA2 and I will never let her down.

All the characters were vastly different and had their own unique stories that are not dependent on others.

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UltiPup wrote...

I prefer DA2 companions to Origins companions any day of the week.

I gotta defend Fenris first. There are too many people who push him aside from the get go. Studying his character, he is really a tragic character. Slave, abused, runaway, he had every reason to be pissy. And he isn't like that 24/7. He is calm and collected, only in rage when slavers are around.

Anders, though I dislike him personally, is a terrific character. He is utterly tragic. He sacrifices his own self for his ideals. He wasn't like in Awakenings, making half assed jokes and prepping his kitty for cuddles. Anders took charge for the mages' plight.

Yes Aveline was the just and orderly gal. Thats her character. She is jsut adorable and awkward. She was my Wynne of DA2 and I will never let her down.

All the characters were vastly different and had their own unique stories that are not dependent on others.



So... you're saying:  Fenris > Sten  and Aveline > Alistair and Isabella > Leilana?   

/facepalm

 

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jacksmedula1 wrote...

UltiPup wrote...

I prefer DA2 companions to Origins companions any day of the week.

I gotta defend Fenris first. There are too many people who push him aside from the get go. Studying his character, he is really a tragic character. Slave, abused, runaway, he had every reason to be pissy. And he isn't like that 24/7. He is calm and collected, only in rage when slavers are around.

Anders, though I dislike him personally, is a terrific character. He is utterly tragic. He sacrifices his own self for his ideals. He wasn't like in Awakenings, making half assed jokes and prepping his kitty for cuddles. Anders took charge for the mages' plight.

Yes Aveline was the just and orderly gal. Thats her character. She is jsut adorable and awkward. She was my Wynne of DA2 and I will never let her down.

All the characters were vastly different and had their own unique stories that are not dependent on others.



So... you're saying:  Fenris > Sten  and Aveline > Alistair and Isabella > Leilana?   

/facepalm

 



Alistair is a cliche that walks like a man.

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Some were awesome, Aveline, Varric, Merrill, Anders, etc, some were pretty bland, and others (Isabella) were awful. All paled in comparison to their Origins counterparts, however... sans maybe Varric.

In my humble opinion.

Modifié par Johnny20, 21 mars 2011 - 05:00 .


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Hmm... let's see:

ME2

Liked:
- Miranda
- Mordin
- Jack
- Kasumi
- Zaeed
- Samara

Indifferent:
- Garrus
- Grunt
- Jacob
- Legion

Dislike:
- Tali
- Thane

DA2:

Liked:
- Aveline
- Varric
- Bethany

Indifferent:
- Carver
- Merrill
- Sebastian
- Isabela

Dislike:
- Fenris
- Anders

My reaction seem thus somewhat similar to the one I had for the ME2 squad. However, in DA:O I liked or loved every companion. And in DA:A I only disliked Anders (the cheap Alistair placeholder). Thus this reaction is disastrous compared to previous Dragon Age offerings.

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Each their own, don't play or play solo maybe.

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I have to agree that this cast of companions was terrible.

The only ones I found interesting and amusing were Isabela and Varric. The rest were varying degrees of boring or annoying.