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[elenilote]

 @Sabriana, check out the Seb-gush thread social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/306/index/6654731/4 - there's a link to a *hawt* Seb/F!Hawke fic with lots of fill on our choirboy's pre-Chantry life...hmmm 

[Sabriana]

@ klarabella & elenilote

Aha, that makes sense then. Phew, thank goodness. Otherwise it would be too weird even for bioware. I'll check Seb-gush thread then.

[Captain Iglo]

I personally think the "WTF ANDERS!" scene is simply incomplete without him!

[Anariel Theirin]

Esbatty wrote...

He is like Gerard Butler combined with Melted Butter poured directly into my ear canals. And I'm a dude who expressly enjoys the ladies. His voice is - that - good.

Exactly.  His personality got on my nerves, but I could listen to him read the dictionary for hours and never get sick of it.  Yum.

[elenilote]

 

Anariel Theirin wrote...

Esbatty wrote...
He is like Gerard Butler combined with Melted Butter poured directly into my ear canals. And I'm a dude who expressly enjoys the ladies. His voice is - that - good.

Exactly.His personality got on my nerves, but I could listen to him read the dictionary for hours and never get sick of it. Yum.

Oh I SO agree with this.
Here:tinyurl.com/6k4nsya is a story channelling this (with Fenris though). It's NSFW so be warned... 

Modifié par elenilote, 24 mars 2011 - 02:36 .

[TheAwesomologist]

Captain Iglo wrote...

I personally think the "WTF ANDERS!" scene is simply incomplete without him!

I could care less for Sebastian, but he does add a lot of tension to that scene and because of him you actually get to know the Grand Cleric a little better.

He's just a plot a device with a great voice actor.

[Wulfram]

Captain Iglo wrote...

I personally think the "WTF ANDERS!" scene is simply incomplete without him!

I think Sebastian goes on too much in that scene.  Well, it's not so much he goes on too much - I understand his reaction - but the way everyone just stops and lets him.

[Riona45]

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

leggywillow wrote...
I have a Sebastian-y question; I'm not sure where else to post them:

If you go the rivalry route with Sebastian, does he still propose a "chaste" marriage?  I know in rivalry you convince him to leave the Chantry to go rule Starkhaven, so the chaste thing doesn't seem to make as much sense in that context.

i think he offers a political alliance, but this is just what i've seen other people type.

If Hawke is on the rivalry with him, she can suggest becoming his princess, and he'll say that an alliance between the Viscountess of Kirkwall (which is the title he assumes Hawke will wind up taking) and the Prince of Starkhaven would be unstoppable.  Much like with the chaste marriage, nothing ever comes of this in the game.

[Riona45]

SupidSeep wrote...

Waitaminute, I thought a chaste marriage do include sex but only after the marriage ceremony? It is not the same as celibacy (no sex whatever).

Nope, Sebastian's dialogue suggests that if he were to marry you, it would be a relationship without sex.  He exhorts you to take vows to the Maker and serve alongside him (as a nun/priestess)--he wants you to have the same lifestyle he does, basically.

As Dave of Canada said, it wouldn't be a normal marriage, although again, nothing actually comes of this in the game.

Modifié par Riona45, 26 mars 2011 - 02:25 .

[Astranagant]

Well, there is the +5% Damage Resistance for being his friend.

Also he scores some bro points for threatening to bring an army from Starkhaven to grind Kirkwall into dust if you don't give Anders the knife after he pulls that endgame stunt.

Modifié par Astranagant, 26 mars 2011 - 04:28 .

[Esbatty]

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

SupidSeep wrote...

Waitaminute, I thought a chaste marriage do include sex but only after the marriage ceremony? It is not the same as celibacy (no sex whatever).

As for Anders, I make a point of killing him but there is no satisfaction in doing so - it feels more like putting a rabid animal down. I guess I am comparing it with the execution of Loghain, who stood straight and faced his end with some dignity.

it's not a "proposal" per say. He asks you to join the chantry WITH him, and serve the maker side by side.

Whoa whoa whoa... but even the dang Reverend Mothers can do sexy stuff. Sex is not verboten in the Chantry.

"According to the Chant of Light, Andraste had a spiritual marriage with the Maker. All Andrastian priests are therefore symbolically wedded to the Maker and cannot legally marry, though they are not sworn to celibacy. "

Not that I'm ever gonna romance Seb, Lady Hawke enjoys the company of pirates and dalish.

[DA_GamerGal]

Gamer Ftw wrote...

I haven't purchased him myself,but if i understand correctly he is a preachy chantry boy who will never sleep with you?
Even Alistair gives it up with a little coaxing.
So why do you like him?

It's the accent- love it. I put him in my party just to hear him talk. I filrted with him a few times and he was all flustered and bashfull, which is midly cute and funny.

My Hawk tried to get him to give up is vows to the chantry and go back to Starkhaven to rule. I thought it would be a good thing to have a prince as a friend- never know when you'd need his troops in a future war. Of course I don't think this is what Bioware was aiming for when they created Sebastian, but it could become a storyline in a future DA game, I suppose.

I liked the whole moral conflict Sebastian was facing... does he go back on his vows to the Maker and Chantry, or does he turn his back on his family legacy as the ruling Prince of Starkhaven?  Does he turn his back on his country or the Chantry? Or why can't he fullfill both paths?  I think they could of delved a bit deeper into this moral conflict, but I it did make you stop and think before you gave him your answers.

It also might have been a cool thing to have the option to turn Sebastian away from his vows by having him fall madly in love with Hawk and make love together... that would open up a new set of moral dilemmas and storyline.