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[Gamer Ftw]

I was only upset he didn't tell me so I could help.

[Ryzaki]

If you ever find yourself asking a "AM I the only one...'

No. No matter what the question is the answer is NO you are not.

[karliahs]

No, my friend, I do believe you are not alone in that boat.

[sunhair]

Nope you're definitely not alone!

Сообщение изменено: electrickalgypsy, 21 Март 2011 - 07:35 .

[chester013]

Well I was upset sure but for a different reason. I had no desire to help him commit an act of terrorism, if he wanted to attack the Templars sure but he took the soft, cowardly option option and picked the easy target. This is why I killed him and left myself with no healer, couldn't let this stand.

[Maria Caliban]

Ryzaki wrote...

If you ever find yourself asking a "AM I the only one...'

No. No matter what the question is the answer is NO you are not.

Thank you.

[Gamer Ftw]

a better option would have been to blow up Meredith.

[AtreiyaN7]

Err, I was upset, but I gave him a second chance - heh. I'm sure there are people out there who are more accepting of his, ah, actions however.

[Majikks]

Your kidding right? Please tell me you were not surprised... he already told you he was going to do something so bad he could not tell you lol. What did you think he just peed on the floor? haha From jump street he considered it war. He snuck into the chantry while you were a distraction. A terroist act?? Yes. I didn't know he would blow up the chantry with all in it, but I did know whatever he did was going to be aggressive. Meridith had to be stopped it was the only way he saw to insure that no one had any other option except to fight her or join her... he drew the line. Now the biatch goes down

Сообщение изменено: Majikks, 21 Март 2011 - 06:48 .

[Miri1984]

Nope, not upset. My Hawke was wondering what took him so long.

[lazysuperstar]

not upset at what he did.. a bit upset at having to kill him for that because it was that freak vengeance's fault

[sharkheart]

I'm not upset and I want to know where it will lead.

What he did brings up many sociological and philosophical issues that are relevant to my interests.

[Galagraphia]

Not upset. I'm in awe and he's my hero now.

[Kim Shepard]

Definitely not the only one. My FemHawke would have helped him if he told her.

[The Cannibal Factory]

Not upset here either. I wish there had been an option to help - not because I would necessarily do that every time, just for roleplaying purposes of course

[Blackout62]

I'm not upset, I genuinely understand why he did what he did. But at the same time I totally had to drive that knife into him or things were gonna get a lot worse, and I don't just mean Sebastian getting revenge-y.

[Gamer Ftw]

he's my hero too lol And I have the major hots for him.

[DeaHamlet]

No, you're not alone.
My second playthrough I wasn't even siding with the mages and the chantry lady made me seethe, lol.
My mage Hawke was just upset he didn't tell her, but understood why he didn't. They ran off into the sunset having started a revolution.
My rogue Hawke was just "damnit Anders, now I have to side with the templars to try to stop war in its infancy! you're making me see Meredith's point and you know how I despise her!" LOL

Anders point about their compromise not really being a compromise - very well put!

[Tyrium]

I'm glad there are others. I'm starting to feel pretty in the minority. I don't regard it as terrorism - it was not a civilian building, not was it done in order to kill civilians. It was done to remove someone who refused to take real action when action could have helped, and was now allowing a much worse cycle to continue. More templar squeeze -> more evil mages -> more templar squeeze etc. I don't like the fact that there were innocents in there, but there was no other way to eliminate her, and it was necessary to eliminate her to end this in the only way it could be - open war. That said, I'm glad he didn't tell her, because she would have tried to find another option, then she would have agreed to help, and been paralysed with guilt. She was upset he lied to her, but its better for her this way, and she understands he was protecting her. She was very upset, but when he explained his reasoning for why he blew up the chantry, she realised it was certainly not mad vengeance, it was well reasoned, and honestly the only available option. It also helps that he's not all triumphant, he is devastated that this is the only option. It

Compromise was truly no longer an option, this had to end. Rhiannon and Anders went off into the sunset, fighting for a world where their children could be born free.

[Gamer Ftw]

Tyrium wrote...

I'm glad there are others. I'm starting to feel pretty in the minority. I don't regard it as terrorism - it was not a civilian building, not was it done in order to kill civilians. It was done to remove someone who refused to take real action when action could have helped, and was now allowing a much worse cycle to continue. More templar squeeze -> more evil mages -> more templar squeeze etc. I don't like the fact that there were innocents in there, but there was no other way to eliminate her, and it was necessary to eliminate her to end this in the only way it could be - open war. That said, I'm glad he didn't tell her, because she would have tried to find another option, then she would have agreed to help, and been paralysed with guilt. She was upset he lied to her, but its better for her this way, and she understands he was protecting her. She was very upset, but when he explained his reasoning for why he blew up the chantry, she realised it was certainly not mad vengeance, it was well reasoned, and honestly the only available option. It also helps that he's not all triumphant, he is devastated that this is the only option. It

Compromise was truly no longer an option, this had to end. Rhiannon and Anders went off into the sunset, fighting for a world where their children could be born free.

Omg Exactly there were no peaceful options.

[Clover Rider]

Tyrium wrote...

I'm glad there are others. I'm starting to feel pretty in the minority. I don't regard it as terrorism - it was not a civilian building, not was it done in order to kill civilians. It was done to remove someone who refused to take real action when action could have helped, and was now allowing a much worse cycle to continue. More templar squeeze -> more evil mages -> more templar squeeze etc. I don't like the fact that there were innocents in there, but there was no other way to eliminate her, and it was necessary to eliminate her to end this in the only way it could be - open war. That said, I'm glad he didn't tell her, because she would have tried to find another option, then she would have agreed to help, and been paralysed with guilt. She was upset he lied to her, but its better for her this way, and she understands he was protecting her. She was very upset, but when he explained his reasoning for why he blew up the chantry, she realised it was certainly not mad vengeance, it was well reasoned, and honestly the only available option. It also helps that he's not all triumphant, he is devastated that this is the only option. It

Compromise was truly no longer an option, this had to end. Rhiannon and Anders went off into the sunset, fighting for a world where their children could be born free.

You can be fine with what he did but don't think that was not terrorism cuz it is=].

[AlexMBrennan]

it was not a civilian building, not was it done in order to kill civilians

The building in question was a church; this somewhat mirrors history (e.g. Christianity and the various Christian military orders).

In any case, I fail to see how getting the entire general population - already terrified of the mages' power - to side with the templars will help matters. If the mages lose the fight then templars elsewhere will treat mages even more harshly (Kirkwall is what happens if you delay annulment!); if the mages win then the templars, possibly after first slaughtering all mages in their charge, will raise an army and march for Kirkwall (the chantry was blown up and the templar garrison murdered by bloodmages).
However, the Knight-commander was conveniently driven insane by the lyrium idol, avoiding immediate open war. A decision is not necessarily correct just because it happened to lead to the best possible outcome [buying a lottery ticket is dumb even if you buy the winning ticket].

Also, Orsino's demands that the Right of Annulment is revoked since an apostate blew up the chantry is silly - Meredith could just execute any circle mage guilty of a capital offence. The Right of Annulment, however, is invoked specifically to legalize the execution of innocents for the greater good.

Сообщение изменено: AlexMBrennan, 21 Март 2011 - 09:13 .

[Gamer Ftw]

My Anders was just fine he wasn't destoyed or lost.

[eleridragon]

By mid Act 3 my rogue Hawke had all but lost it anyway. She hated being called Champion, she hated being the one people turned to, she'd lost/been estranged from everyone she loved except Anders, and she was having to watch him falling apart even more than she was.

She argued with Anders over what he was doing, attempted to get the Grand Cleric to leave, and when she wouldn't, and gave that 'No one would dare kill me.' speech, decided that if that's the way they wanted it, they'd have blood. Which made the 'Anders, what have you done?' line slightly dodgy because she knew he was going to do something bad to the Chantry, she wasn't stupid.

So yes, in that runthrough, I/she agreed with him, kind of.

Whether my other characters will think the same, time will tell, and on a personal level, I can understand but I still facepalmed mightily. It's a little hard asking 'do I agree' when I'm living in a totally different world to the one they know.