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[txgoldrush]

Seriously...she needs the starring role again.

Why?

1. She closes DAII
2. She is the top Seeker
3. She may be neutral in the conflict, or on the Templar side but doesn't support killing innocent mages, and is trying to seek the heroes and stop the war.
4. She is one of the most human characters in the series.
5. She can carry the theme of the role of religion in a society, as she is clearly devout, but far from extreme.

I really think she (along with maybe Wynne and Shale) was the only real three dimensional character in the first game that can show different personalites depending on the situation. I found all the other companions, outside Wynne and sometimes Allister display one personality or emotion. Leliana can be funny, moving and reflective, stern and combative, and more. All I see out of Morrigan is nihilism and sometimes confusion. All I see most of Zervan and Oghren is comedy. Sten, coldness, even if he opens up. DA II's characters truly blow them away with their more three dimensional nature and more varied emotions. However, I do think Leliana still is the series best character.

I think in an expansion or sequel, she should either be the top companion, the Dawn Star role, or even the protagonist as she battles the rifts in her Chantry. I do think she should also pair up with Cassandra to try and find the Hawke or the Warden (if he or she isn't the protagonist again in Hawke's case), with finding Morrigan the first goal. While I don't think Morrigan was that great of a character in DAO, she was a great foil to Leliana, complete opposites. I would like to see that conflict again, however, I think Morrigan should become a far more human character, like Isabella.

I found her cameo at the very end awesome and a good move by Bioware.

[Viper-sfm]

Maybe...I think Leliana might be an ancestor of Andraste...would explain a lot about her. I also think she probably will be at the core of DA3. Unless Bioware takes a complete left turn and go to Tevinter for the third installment.

[josiah8188]

No.

[Blackout62]

Hah! Leliana as protagonist would be Bioware robbing their RPG completely of character creation and most player decision making... that being said I completely endorse this idea.

[TexasToast712]

She is a hot bi-sexual woman with red hair that was only around so she could open chests for me. Beyond that I felt no kinship with her which is why I went and romanced Morrigan and fell in love with her character.

Morrigan > Leliana

[Mox Ruuga]

I'd rather she was off by the Warden's side, or if not romanced (or a friend) then doing her own thing.

She's a personal favorite from DA:O, but now that the devs have given her such an important and "visible" role, I fear she will be forced onto some tightly defined canonical path, which won't fit the various DA:O epilogue resolutions she had.

The whole "to harden or not to harden" decision seems to have had no effect, given her now canonical choice of profession in DA2. Poor form, Bioware, poor form.

[erilben]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

The whole "to harden or not to harden" decision seems to have had no effect, given her now canonical choice of profession in DA2. Poor form, Bioware, poor form.

I was looking at the plot flags that import, and I saw none for "harden" Leliana or Alistair. So hardening these characters will have no effect in the future.

At least with Alistair, hardening him it let you change things that happen in Origins that will carry over like making Anora and Alsitair marry but keeping Loghain alive. But what did hardening Leliana ever do?

Modifié par erilben, 21 mars 2011 - 08:25 .

[txgoldrush]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

I'd rather she was off by the Warden's side, or if not romanced (or a friend) then doing her own thing.

She's a personal favorite from DA:O, but now that the devs have given her such an important and "visible" role, I fear she will be forced onto some tightly defined canonical path, which won't fit the various DA:O epilogue resolutions she had.

The whole "to harden or not to harden" decision seems to have had no effect, given her now canonical choice of profession in DA2. Poor form, Bioware, poor form.

It seems Leliana always survives as well if you destroy the ashes with her in the party. Her death is retconned.

DAO should have no import flags in the future as well as Awakenings. They screwed it up. I once imported a dead Warden to use in Awakenings.

[AngelicMachinery]

6) She makes me Dawww...

[Wulfram]

I doubt she would have been retconned/resurrected for the minor role she's played so far in DA2

[Mox Ruuga]

erilben wrote...

I was looking at the plot flags that import, and I saw none for "harden" Leliana or Alistair. So hardening these characters will have no effect in the future.

At least with Alistair, hardening him it let you change things that happen in Origins that will carry over like making Anora and Alsitair marry but keeping Loghain alive. But what did hardening Leliana ever do?

Hardening Leliana made her accept her... adventurous nature, the part of her that enjoys the chaos and excitement of the bardic life. Contrary to what some fans believe, it didn't make her abandon her faith in the Maker or anything, but it would have made her less likely to return to the Chantry or forgive Marjolaine etc. In short, she would have wanted to do what pleased her, instead of more altruistic and self sacrificing life as a simple cloistered sister.

Neither approach to her life is right or wrong, and she would have remained a kind hearted soul. Just with different approach to life in each case. Now... It seems that choice is another thing down the memory hole and the more adventurous and free spirited "hardened" version is gone. Bah. I just hope they don't Flanderize her in DA3, like they did with Isabela.

[AlexXIV]

[Spoonuser12]

Cmon'

She and the Seekers are the next potential Antagonists. And after time passes, you will be given a choice to side with them or against them.

[Brimleydower]

txgoldrush wrote...
DA II's characters truly blow them away with their more three dimensional nature and more varied emotions.

I don't agree with this sentiment at all.  In regards to Sten, perhaps, but he's a Qunari.

[NKKKK]

No thanks

[MKDAWUSS]

As a PC? Imagine all the outrage that would cause! You'd be stuck playing as a human female. People were up in arms just being locked into being a human...

[Mahtisonni]

The problem with this is that I killed her during the sacred ashes quest so I think she might be a bit mad about that now.
If she will however be a companion on Dragon Age 3 then I will not hesitate to kill her again.

That self righteous overly moralizing preachy **** with annoying accent deserves to die.
Morrigan is superior in all aspects.

Modifié par Mahtisonni, 21 mars 2011 - 12:58 .

[surfgirlusa_2006]

Viper-sfm wrote...

Maybe...I think Leliana might be an ancestor of Andraste...would explain a lot about her. I also think she probably will be at the core of DA3. Unless Bioware takes a complete left turn and go to Tevinter for the third installment.

Or she's Andraste returned/reincarnated, which explains how she survived if you killed her during the Urn of Sacred Ashes quest.

Just a random thought.

[Thiefy]

Viper-sfm wrote...

Maybe...I think Leliana might be an ancestor of Andraste...would explain a lot about her. I also think she probably will be at the core of DA3. Unless Bioware takes a complete left turn and go to Tevinter for the third installment.

i think you mean descendant....

[ISpeakTheTruth]

I do agree that Leliana was the best character in DA:O and I was extremely happy to see her return at the end of DA2. I don't think she should be the PC though because that would force you to play a female rouge every playthrough and that would get old quickly. I do support her being a large part of the story in DA3 though. Maybe Casandra will be a Seeker who is looking to put everything back exactly the way things were before this happened and Leliana wants to end the war but change things maybe in the Mage's favor because she never showed any distrust for mages in the game.

Leliana > Morrigan

[blothulfur]

Standing over lelianas decapitated corpse at the urn of sacred ashes with Sten at my side I really wanted the big man to say: "Soft enough for you, you cutesy piece of vashedan?".

Ah well you always think of the best lines afterwards.

[Brimleydower]

Scruffy believes in this company.

[Evolution33]

At the end of the game I had to wonder why Varric, Leliana, Allistar, and someone else (Casandra) couldn't just go off and do whatever it is that needs doing. They all became pretty badass by the end of the games in their own rights.

[Ashaman X]

I think Leliana's story is far from over, the ending of DA2 is just so full of tease for the future it's exciting. So Leli was in love with my Warden and now she's gone, as is Hawke. Is Leli going to set out to find them? Be in a party with a new protagonist who searches for them? No one knows and DA3 is going to be a few years away still before we get any answers.

[Brimleydower]

Evolution33 wrote...

At the end of the game I had to wonder why Varric, Leliana, Allistar, and someone else (Casandra) couldn't just go off and do whatever it is that needs doing. They all became pretty badass by the end of the games in their own rights.

Because they'd be hung up on the first dialogue waiting for the player to respond.