phyreblade74 wrote...
Both Marethari and Merrill used what understandings they possessed to make choices that ended up hurting people. You can't say Marethari is an idiot but not Merrill, as if Merrill knew so much better than Marethari; she didn't. They knew, basically, about the same. Wait, Marethari actually knew MORE, being older and more experienced a Keeper.
So the person who refused to study the mirror as we found out in Origins knows more about the mirror than the person who spent 7 years studying lore and information she gathered from various sources, some more than likely being Tevinter? Ok..... sure.....
So me, I say they were both acting equally stupid. Merrill should've respected her elder enough to stop barrelling forward and endangering herself and Marethari should've known she couldn't truly save Merrill and gotten the Clan the heck on outta there. Such is my own opinion. I'm not going to agree with you anytime soon that Merrill is perfectly brilliant and EVERYONE around her was just too dumb to see it, nope.
Sure, respect your elder even when she turns your whole entire clan against you by spreading baseless lies about a danger that no longer exists and said elder knows that you've made it safe. You've told her repeatedly.
I'm sorry but if you respect someone who does all that to you then there is something seriously wrong. I lost all respect for Marethari when she did that.
And what's wrong with my sentences, anyway? Heck, I'm not even sure which "first sentance" you're referring to, lol.
The one where you said "Hey I respect your thinking Merrill is the brightest of all elves" or something along those lines. It was in the third block quote thingy I did. That one was what I didn't like.
People were hurt exactly through Merrill's actions, actually. Had she not acted as she did, there would've been nothing to fear and, thus, no harm. Mind you, the Dalish (and everyone) have every reason in the world to fear blood magic and demonic possession; there are plenty of instances where violent rampages and terrible circumstances prove there's plenty to fear from such chances and possibilities. It's a Keeper's responsibility to "remember" such things and direct the Clan accordingly.
*facepalm*
Merrill cleansed the shard of the taint and in doing so made it perfectly safe! There was no reason to fear her or the Eluvian shard at that point! The fact that Blood Magic actually cleansed something of the taint proves that blood magic isn't evil.
It's also a Keeper's responsibility to remember anything and everything about elven society, even if it may be dangerous at first.
Begging and choosing never went hand in hand. -- Carver Hawke.
The Keeper only wants to remember the safe things and said that the Eluvians were better left to a forgotten time. She's effectively ignoring the duty she and all other Keepers said they would do.
Redcliffe comes to mind, just for one. So does the Brecelian Forest, with all its sundry spirits inhabiting rampaging trees and werewolves attacking Dalish. Just seems most people in Thedas have experience enough to say it's not particularly wise to invite demons into your life using blood magic; bad stuff normally follows.
Redcliffe had no instances of blood magic being used save for if you kill Isolde to rescue Connor. The Brecilian Forest had no instance of blood magic either save for Zathrian binding the very forest's soul into Witherfang. Neither of those summoned demons.
Also, just because Blood Magic
can summon demons doesn't mean it always does.
History and lore teaches over and over it's best and wise to avoid blood magic and demons, anyway. Merrill says she appreciates the value of history and lore, then acts in reckless disregard for its teachings. Stupid, that.
She appreciates Dalish history and lore, not Chantry propagandist teachings used to make people fear mages just because of the douches that were the Tevinter Magisters.
IOnlySignIn wrote...
^ The Joining counts as Blood Magic? Or even Magic? It can be performed without a Mage. I thought it's just like how a Warrior drinks Dragonblood to become a Reaver.
I refer you to my thread:
http://social.biowar...4/index/7404632phyreblade74 wrote...
Ya lost me. Marethari never tries to kill Merrill. That oh-so-helpful demon Merrill trusted enough to visit repeatedly does try to kill Merrill, however.
The demon that, if it is in fact Audacity and not another Pride demon, was
trapped for centuries and would be trapped forever unless a mage freed it using a powerful spell. Which was Marethari.
Repeatedly meaning a total of 3 times?
1) With Marethari because they kept hearing a voice and
didn't know what it was, but later found out it was a demon that was trapped forever.2) To learn blood magic
from the trapped demon who couldn't harm anyone because it was trapped as Marethari said in the Merrill short story.
3) When Merrill goes to
ask it for more advice, and later finds out Marethari freed the
trapped demon.
The demon could do no harm to
anyone because it was trapped. It could only harm people if it was freed, which was caused by Marethari.
And for the record, so it isn't used as a counterargument here: Blood Magic would not have made the Eluvian act as a gateway for Audacity to free itself. The Eluvian links to a place beyond the Fade and Thedas as Morrigan told us and the Tevinter Imperium used blood magic on the Eluvian and only got a fancy telephone between other Eluvians.
Also, if a Keeper becomes an Abomination, it's the clan's duty to slay the Keeper. But when you tell her clan this, they try to kill you.
Now, whose fault is that? It certainly isn't Merrill's for doing what her clan would've been forced to do to Marethari.
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