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[thebatmanreborn]

 Two recent interviews revealed a lot about the direction of the Dragon Age franchise as a whole

http://www.eurogamer...ge-ii-interview

http://www.1up.com/f...2-afterthoughts


First of all, the Dragon Age series is not about any one story arc or host of characters.  It is about a "time and a place." This would seem to indicate that the Warden's story was concluded with Witchhunt.  His story spanned Origins, Awakening, and several DLC.  And that's the last we will likely see of him.  He may be mentioned in future installments and his fate ultimately alluded to, but his story is concluded.  

It is then likely that Hawke will have a similar fate.  His story will be concluded via DLC and an expansion.  A new hero will likely be made for Dragon Age 3.  This also means that all the hoopla over Morrigan and Flemeth are very minor subplots to the overall story.  The focus of this saga is on place and time, not on any single story arc or character.

Therefore, it reminds me a lot fo Final Fantasy.  Different heroes, different struggles, different plots.  the thing that connects them all is the world.  In the case of Dragon Age, everything takes place within the same place (Thedas) and time (shortly before and after the fifth Blight).  This allows them to do each installment of Dragon Age in various locations across Thedas without having to be tied done to plotlines from previous installments.  Origins in Ferelden.  DA2 in the Free Marches (specifically Kirkwall).  The third is likely in Orlais.  With future installments likely based in Rivain and Tevinter Imperium.  Each would then have a new hero, a new conflict, and would further expand upon the lore of the world, but not necessarily link to previous heroes, if that makes sense?

So, as much as SWTOR is Bioware's WOW, Dragon Age becomes Bioware's answer to Final Fantasy.  At least that is what I have come to deduce from the interviews and direction the story have flowed thus far.  







 

Modifié par thebatmanreborn, 21 mars 2011 - 01:48 .

[Alexein]

i don't know much about final fantasy, do the various final fantasy games take place in the same world?

[ashwind]

Alexein wrote...

i don't know much about final fantasy, do the various final fantasy games take place in the same world?

No they dont. There are similarities between FF and DA if you look closely but the same can be claimed by other games.

[thebatmanreborn]

Many of them did; although there have been so many that it is difficult to keep up with. I personally lost interest in the series. But each installment introduced a new set of heroes in a new story arc. Some I know for sure took place within the same world (there were also some dream world ones too, I think). Bioware is likely to be more strict about Dragon Age-making sure everything happens within the same world to expand upon the lore. However, the mechanics are similar with each installment introducing different heroes.

So, Halo 2 was a direct followup to all the events that took place in Halo 1.  Same with the Mass Effect, Gears of War, and even the Elder Scrolls series.  Elder Scrolls V is the big unveiling of exactly what the elder scrolls were talkign about all along.  

Final Fantasy games never had to connect with each other like that.  The same will likely be said of Dragon Age.  New installment, different heroes, different conflict.  Same world, same place, but little connection to previous installments.    

Each hero's story is then concluded with DLC and expansions (this is not like FF). They are then alluded to in future installments, but not much more.  I may be totally wrong, but that's my current theory.

Modifié par thebatmanreborn, 21 mars 2011 - 02:01 .

[Deadlysyns]

Final Fantasy = Fail now that they went back to the FF7 world just stop already god Dragon age at least has some interesting things going on Final Fantasy never finished a Story really

[Nathan Redgrave]

Final Fantasy isn't even the same kind of case, though. It creates a new world and mythology with each game, not even sticking to the same technological time period. There's no connection at all between FF6, FF7, FF8, and FF9; they're all different stories with different styles. Dragon Age connects itself with the same world and lore, with both games drawing on some of the same world issues as the other to fuel their plotlines. There's a higher focus on developing lore across multiple titles, whereas Final Fantasy, on the few occasions it actually bothers to try that, falls flat on its arse.

They're two different styles with two different sets of strengths and weaknesses. Best not compare peaches to oranges.

[Rockpopple]

Actually none of the Final Fantasys, save for direct sequels like X-2 and the upcoming XIII-2...or whatever, take place in the same world or setting, so that comparison isn't apt at all.

I get what you're trying to say, tho. It's just a bad comparison.

[Deadlysyns]

Rockpopple wrote...

Actually none of the Final Fantasys, save for direct sequels like X-2 and the upcoming XIII-2...or whatever, take place in the same world or setting, so that comparison isn't apt at all.

I get what you're trying to say, tho. It's just a bad comparison.

your Wrong Final Fantasy XIII takes place in the Same world as FF7 because the main character meets Cloud 

[Nathan Redgrave]

Deadlysyns wrote...

Rockpopple wrote...

Actually none of the Final Fantasys, save for direct sequels like X-2 and the upcoming XIII-2...or whatever, take place in the same world or setting, so that comparison isn't apt at all.

I get what you're trying to say, tho. It's just a bad comparison.

your Wrong Final Fantasy XIII takes place in the Same world as FF7 because the main character meets Cloud 

I hope that's a bad joke, because it's not true.

Although the main character is intentionally designed to resemble a "female Cloud," it's more of a fanservice thing.

[Deadlysyns]

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...

Rockpopple wrote...

Actually none of the Final Fantasys, save for direct sequels like X-2 and the upcoming XIII-2...or whatever, take place in the same world or setting, so that comparison isn't apt at all.

I get what you're trying to say, tho. It's just a bad comparison.

your Wrong Final Fantasy XIII takes place in the Same world as FF7 because the main character meets Cloud 

I hope that's a bad joke, because it's not true.

Although the main character is intentionally designed to resemble a "female Cloud," it's more of a fanservice thing.

perhaps it was something else i read somewhere that they met and my friend said they did lol sorry guys but Cid one of the Characters was introduced before 

[Rockpopple]

Kingdom Hearts or Dissedia  isn't canon. They don't count.

Modifié par Rockpopple, 21 mars 2011 - 02:03 .

[thebatmanreborn]

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...

Rockpopple wrote...

Actually none of the Final Fantasys, save for direct sequels like X-2 and the upcoming XIII-2...or whatever, take place in the same world or setting, so that comparison isn't apt at all.

I get what you're trying to say, tho. It's just a bad comparison.

your Wrong Final Fantasy XIII takes place in the Same world as FF7 because the main character meets Cloud 

I hope that's a bad joke, because it's not true.

Although the main character is intentionally designed to resemble a "female Cloud," it's more of a fanservice thing.

Yea, I could be totally wrong and this then would be a bad comparison.  Although I thought the first few entires in the series took place in the same world?  At least, that's what I remembered.  I gave up on Final Fantasy shortly after VII released.  It's been years.  Sorry

Modifié par thebatmanreborn, 21 mars 2011 - 02:04 .

[Deadlysyns]

Final Fantasy has been going on for way too long

[Rockpopple]

It's okay, they're old games. =)

But yeah, even the first few entries all took place in other worlds.... but they had very similar plots. It's easy to be confused if you hadn't played them. Final Fantasy really didn't get good *flame shields up* until Final Fantasy IV.

[Bathead]

The only thing that repeats in the FF games are superficial stuff like names of characters (there seems to be a Cid of some type in every game), monsters (Bahamut). items (phoenix down, ribbons), and different concepts like curative items hurt undead, elemental conflicts, spells, stuff like that. The settings, characters, and gameplay are different for each one.

Modifié par Bathead, 21 mars 2011 - 02:10 .

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

Deadlysyns wrote...

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...

Rockpopple wrote...

Actually none of the Final Fantasys, save for direct sequels like X-2 and the upcoming XIII-2...or whatever, take place in the same world or setting, so that comparison isn't apt at all.

I get what you're trying to say, tho. It's just a bad comparison.

your Wrong Final Fantasy XIII takes place in the Same world as FF7 because the main character meets Cloud 

I hope that's a bad joke, because it's not true.

Although the main character is intentionally designed to resemble a "female Cloud," it's more of a fanservice thing.

perhaps it was something else i read somewhere that they met and my friend said they did lol sorry guys but Cid one of the Characters was introduced before 

Cid is in every game.  It's not the same guy though, just a similar character with a similar name.  Same with Biggs and Wedge.  Which, Biggs and Wedge are originally from Star Wars.  The three of them are a kind of running gag.

As for being the same game, the only games that have been the same exact world is FF X and FF X-2, then FF XIII and the upcoming FF XIII-2.  I have heard they plan to make a FF VII-2, though not much more than just the rumor.

[ashwind]

Deadlysyns wrote...
perhaps it was something else i read somewhere that they met and my friend said they did lol sorry guys but Cid one of the Characters was introduced before 

Cid is a name that exists in many FF series 

I remember Cid dying in FF 2 - jump off the ship with tons of C4 tied to himself...

But in all honesty - I feel that the FF series is still superior to DA. I can still remember the music, the touching scenes, the characters even though I last played them more then 10 years ago. FF does not need graphics to tell a really touching story - with just sprites and midi alone have they achieve what some games today despite all its technological advances fail to achieve.

FF X is the last FF I played but it has been going downhill since FF7. They had a good run, a classic in my mind.

[Bathead]

Never mind (redundant post).

Modifié par Bathead, 21 mars 2011 - 02:18 .

[Icy Magebane]

The Final Fantasy Tactics games took place in the same world... I think. I only actually played the first, but that's what I've heard.

[tanuki]

Icy Magebane wrote...

The Final Fantasy Tactics games took place in the same world... I think. I only actually played the first, but that's what I've heard.

And also FFXII took place in the same world as Tactics, just different age.

[Kline1003]

The problem is Witch Hunt wasn't a real ending...it was..ick. I guess you know where your Warden is seven years later but now three years later they drag the Warden back up in the Epilogue and say he/she is missing even though for many, they should be at court.

I mean the story in Origins was a lot more personal than the story in DA: 2. They should be approaching it that way. Sure it can take place in a certain time, in a certain place but it should still be a personal tale...

I don't know. I love the Final Fantasy series, I prefer it over DA but I get very different things from it. To me Final Fantasy is about an epic tale told in one play through, DA is just as epic but it's personal, it's more of your story than is A story. I don't know if I'm disappointed in DA: 2, I liked it but didn't love it but i want a game more like Origins, I want a story more like Origins. Not that the choice of who my character is, but that I choose the story, that the world is in danger and that I care about the characters and they aren't just hanging around at some bar the whole time. I want the epic, the world is ending feel.

As I've said in other threads, I want an Origins heavy story because that was the world that was developed. This isn't like Final Fantasy. I want to know what is happening with the world I developed in Origins, not in this little corner in the world known as Kirkwall.

[Arppis]

Every Final Fantasy game that has took place in "Ivalice" I have hated. Plus the music always sucks in those games. So some Final Fantasy games do take place in the same world.

[efrgfhnm_]

Surely it would be like a much more direct version of Elder Scrolls, one world, different areas. Like Skyrim mentions being after Oblivion in the trailer....