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ch1b1c4nd1

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I never ended up getting the achievement for the romance with Fenris which I thought was odd or do you not get one if its rivalry? He didnt say much at the last conversation either. At the end where Varric concludes the ending he mentions how everyone left the hero for one reason or another except Fenris but nothing else was said? What did he mean? and why did I get the achievement? Thanks!

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It shouldn't be an issue, regardless of whether the romance was achieved with friendship or rivalry.

Your LI always stays by your side, unless you slept with Isabella first and then it's glitched to have Varric say Isabella regardless of your relationship with her or your standing with your actual LI. I had Merrill at my side at the end. Nothing else was said because it leaves room for DLC and an expansion, I suppose.

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ch1b1c4nd1

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But wouldnt I have got the achievement if I really got it? I think it was because I never got to 100%. Is it true that when it reaches that it won't be affected?

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Did you speak to him, before the last battle? He's supposed to kiss you and that's when you're supposed to get the achievement.

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ch1b1c4nd1

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I spoke to him and no kiss wah!!

Although saying this I didn't get the nice conversation with him after Danrius either. He was just like, pissy.

Modifié par ch1b1c4nd1, 21 mars 2011 - 09:14 .


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Did you tell him what to do with his sister, or let him decide himself? Fenris doesn't really like to be told what to do.

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ch1b1c4nd1

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Ah, I said LEAVE HER ALONE FENRIS FFS! Maybe thats why... :] I remember she had the nerve to talk smack about it too!

BUT, I remember letting him kill her and the convo was still brutal.

Modifié par ch1b1c4nd1, 21 mars 2011 - 09:37 .


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LobselVith8

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ch1b1c4nd1 wrote...

I spoke to him and no kiss wah!!

Although saying this I didn't get the nice conversation with him after Danrius either. He was just like, pissy.


I got the achievement with Merrill, and even though her final quest was bugged, I got the achievement after I kissed her in the final battle. It should be the same for Fenris.

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ch1b1c4nd1

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Nope, I'm guessing mine was bugged :(

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Inzhuna

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You have to get him to 100 friendship/rivalry to complete the romance. Otherwise you're still separate, after he left you in Act 2.

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ch1b1c4nd1

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Ah - okay thanks! Any tips to get it at 100%? I found that even with rivalry I never quite got there for some reason.

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Go have to get him to 100 friendship/rivalry AND give him both gifts. Apparently you need to side with the Templars if he is in a rivalry romance but can side with anyone if he is in friendship romance.

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ch1b1c4nd1

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Yeah, he didn't want the sword! :(

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ch1b1c4nd1 wrote...

I spoke to him and no kiss wah!!

Although saying this I didn't get the nice conversation with him after Danrius either. He was just like, pissy.


I played through that quest yesterday on 100% rivalry.  He gets pissy after the 'Alone' quest if Hawke is a rival.  However the conversation should move on and be almost the same as the friendship romance, ending in a kiss if Hawke flirts with him.  If that didn't happen it sounds like something's gone wrong before this point and the romance was no longer active by the time you got to the Gallows scene later on.

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thesuperdarkone wrote...

Go have to get him to 100 friendship/rivalry AND give him both gifts. Apparently you need to side with the Templars if he is in a rivalry romance but can side with anyone if he is in friendship romance.


This is not true. Fenris will remain at your side if you side with mages and he's at 100 rivalry/friendship. You don't have to be in a romance.

Also, if you sleep with anyone else in Act 2, it ends Fenris's romance.

Tips on getting to 100 rivalry?.. Just bring him to mages vs templars quests and side with the mages. You'll get there quickly. Also if you contradict him in the conversations it will escalate the rivalry as well.

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Inzhuna wrote...

thesuperdarkone wrote...

Go have to get him to 100 friendship/rivalry AND give him both gifts. Apparently you need to side with the Templars if he is in a rivalry romance but can side with anyone if he is in friendship romance.


This is not true. Fenris will remain at your side if you side with mages and he's at 100 rivalry/friendship. You don't have to be in a romance.



Are you sure that Fenris will remain at your side if he's at 100% rivalry (and you've done his quests + given his gifts) and you side with the mages?  On my next playthrough I want to try him as a rival... but there's no way I'm siding with the templars again (did it once as a reload for the unlock and I never want to side with them again).  I don't want to lose Fenris as a companion in the end though... so it'd be great to know for sure if you can have a rivalry with Fenris and still side with the mages without him leaving. :)

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thesuperdarkone wrote...

Go have to get him to 100 friendship/rivalry AND give him both gifts. Apparently you need to side with the Templars if he is in a rivalry romance but can side with anyone if he is in friendship romance.


Untrue, I rivalmanced him and played both sides (mage and templar) from a save and he stayed with me either way.  He was 100% and fully developed though.

The official Guide says that the mage side requires full friendship but then again it also says he'll move in with you so don't belive everything in that thing.

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shnellegaming wrote...

thesuperdarkone wrote...

Go have to get him to 100 friendship/rivalry AND give him both gifts. Apparently you need to side with the Templars if he is in a rivalry romance but can side with anyone if he is in friendship romance.


Untrue, I rivalmanced him and played both sides (mage and templar) from a save and he stayed with me either way.  He was 100% and fully developed though.

The official Guide says that the mage side requires full friendship but then again it also says he'll move in with you so don't belive everything in that thing.


Cool, thank you!  A shame that he doesn't move in. *sigh*  I've noticed the official guide doesn't give nearly as much info as I'd like.  Good to know that it isn't correct about rivalry  with Fenris needing to choose templars to keep him.  

Now I have the hard decision or rivalmancing Anders or Fenris next playthrough. >_<  

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Bah, for him to stay in the end he has to be at 100 if you side with the mages? I try to ****** him off at every opportunity, but sometimes he surprises me with the things that +friend him >_<

I did my "me" run on the first playthrough, he was 100 friend side... as a mage, which was still oddly easy and made sense. It's harder than I thought to annoy him.

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You can ****** him off in his personal quest, like in discussing something with his former master or something equally cruel. Also, I wouldn't let him kill his sister either way (but I was already locked either side by the time of that quest on my 2 runs).

And another confirmation that he will stay when at 100% rivalry and friendship, when done the last part of Questioning of beliefs.

Edit: Also, the guide sucks. I  sincerely hope the next official one will be better.

Modifié par tigrina, 26 mars 2011 - 03:12 .