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[Iosev]

Downloadable Content will probably be a mix of content that you can do during the main game, as well as a few things to do after the main story (possibly an expansion).

While the Seeker idea is interesting, I honestly think that Hawke will return as the protagonist for DA 3. In many ways, DA 2 serves as Hawke's origin story, as well as the beginning of the magi rebellion that is currently widespread at the time of Cassandra and Varric's discussion (the entire events covered in DA 2 is essentially a flashback). I find it very hard to believe that Hawke's part in the magi rebellion will finish within DLC. The magi rebellion is just too large a scale, and Hawke being at the epicenter of it seems to suggest that he/she IS going to continue being the main character.

Honestly, changing the main character after DA:O was necessary, considering that the main character can die (i.e., if you committed the Ultimate Sacrifice), but since Hawke survives the events of DA 2, it's very likely that he/she will remain a central character to the current storyline.

Modifié par arcelonious, 21 mars 2011 - 09:17 .

[Maclimes]

arcelonious wrote...
Honestly, changing the main character after DA:O was necessary, considering that the main character can die (i.e., if you committed the Ultimate Sacrifice), but since Hawke survives the events of DA 2, it's very likely that he/she will remain a central character to the current storyline.

One of the developers, can't recall who, said that the star of Mass Effect is Shepard, so he is always the PC. But the star of Dragon Age is the world of Thedas itself, and so each game focuses on a different group of interconnected heroes. That's why, even in Origins, we got 4 potential PCs: The Warden in the main game, the potential Orleasian Warden in Awakening, and Leliana and a Darkspawn in their own DLC packs.

I'd also like to point out that there is no way that any DLC will cover the skipped timelines, such as a the year as a mercenary. You can't level up or gain XP or gain items at all, since we know what level and items he had after leaving that year. With no progression at all, it's not much of a game.

[Xaln]

BigEvil wrote...

Alexein wrote...
Another DLC could be what happened during that year with the mercenary/smugglers, it would allow more sibling character development.

I'd love this as a DLC also. I want to find out more about the three merchants (Tomwise, Worthy, and Elegant) that Hawke clearly met first during that period of time. And more sibling development would be great. It could end with Hawke first hearing about Bartrand's expedition.

This.

[scpulley]

For DLC, I want to find out what the heck happened before Hawke vanished and was on the run. Why did he have to go on the run? Were both groups after him since no matter what you did you were killing the head of the templars and mages? That would be my first guess but I would feel a lot better about the game having had that IN THE GAME but if it's DLC I can live with that I suppose.

For DA 3, while I don't mind everyone being human, maybe go back to Origins for how to start the game. You can choose to start with a few different backgrounds as a human, maybe you are a noble of some kind, maybe you are a seeker, maybe you are a mercenary, a circle mage, even a gray warden. It could play a part for how you go about interacting with the game. Then maybe actually have a complete game this time.

[Iosev]

Maclimes wrote...

arcelonious wrote...
Honestly, changing the main character after DA:O was necessary, considering that the main character can die (i.e., if you committed the Ultimate Sacrifice), but since Hawke survives the events of DA 2, it's very likely that he/she will remain a central character to the current storyline.

One of the developers, can't recall who, said that the star of Mass Effect is Shepard, so he is always the PC. But the star of Dragon Age is the world of Thedas itself, and so each game focuses on a different group of interconnected heroes. That's why, even in Origins, we got 4 potential PCs: The Warden in the main game, the potential Orleasian Warden in Awakening, and Leliana and a Darkspawn in their own DLC packs.

I'd also like to point out that there is no way that any DLC will cover the skipped timelines, such as a the year as a mercenary. You can't level up or gain XP or gain items at all, since we know what level and items he had after leaving that year. With no progression at all, it's not much of a game.

If possible, I would like to see the actual quote for that, because it seems that with Dragon Age 2, Hawke in being introduced as a central character to the Dragon Age world.  In many ways, it seems like Bioware is spending a great deal of effort in introducing Hawke, even moreso than Shepard from ME.  For example, in ME, Shepard already starts out as an accomplished soldier, and you merely choose your background (e.g., sole surivivor, spacer, etc.) before beginning the main storyline (i.e., the Reapers).  In contrast, in Dragon Age 2, you spend the whole game shaping Hawke's background prior to the current story (i.e., the magi rebellion that Cassandra is currently dealing with).

Furthermore, while DA:O and ME detail events in "real-time", DA 2 is essentially a flashback, suggesting that this is only the beginning for Hawke.  Of course I could be wrong, but that's how I see Dragon Age 2.

Regarding DLC, it can be implemented similar to how it was in Origins.  For example, timeline wise, you couldn't do much of the DLC until after the Battle of Ostagar, such as Return to Ostagar.  Likewise, in DA 2, some DLC could be available during Act 1, some available during Act 2, some available during Act 3, or some possibly available after the main game (being able to load the autosave after completing the game seems to suggest that).

Modifié par arcelonious, 21 mars 2011 - 10:00 .

[MKDAWUSS]

All I know for DA3 is, if I can be someone other than a human warrior, I'm taking it (My canon Cousland was a warrior, my canon Hawke was a warrior)

[Maclimes]

arcelonious wrote...

Regarding DLC, it can be implemented similar to how it was in Origins.  For example, timeline wise, you couldn't do much of the DLC until after the Battle of Ostagar, such as Return to Ostagar.  Likewise, in DA 2, some DLC could be available during Act 1, some available during Act 2, some available during Act 3, or some possibly available after the main game (being able to load the autosave after completing the game seems to suggest that).

The in-game DLC is the worst idea. I've already played through the game. Twice. I shouldn't have to play it all over again, with a whole new character, just to access the DLC that I purchased. It was terrible in ME1 and DA:O (with Return to Ostagar).

Thankfully, they appear to have learned their lesson. ME2 is constructed in a way that makes it possible to do any DLC before or after the final battle, and the later DLC for DA:O was set concurrently after the main plot. So it didn't matter whether you planned to start a whole new Shepard/Warden, or just wanted to use the one you already made. You still get to experience the DLC. That seems to be the best way.


As for the dev quote, it was months before the game came out, on these very forums. With no search function, I'm afraid I can't help you there. Sorry.

Modifié par Maclimes, 21 mars 2011 - 10:10 .

[Alexein]

Maclimes wrote...

I'd also like to point out that there is no way that any DLC will cover the skipped timelines, such as a the year as a mercenary. You can't level up or gain XP or gain items at all, since we know what level and items he had after leaving that year. With no progression at all, it's not much of a game.

Varric's Framed Narrative storytelling actually gives us a loophole for this.

Varric can tell the story of the "first year" to some audience, (probably not cassandra, maybe some bar patron) and let you the PC use all the stuff you import and level up as usual. But then at the end of the story someone can speak up and say "But the champion never got that armor until after s/he fought the dragon!" At which point varric can respond with "it's just a story."

In lelianna's song you get some new items in your main game even though the warden never actually is in lellianna's song. Technically lelianna's song is a skipped timeline, occuring before the main game, but that doesn't stop bioware from letting you play it.

So bioware can pull the same trick with varric. Whatever happens in varric's story is permissible, including item gathering and levelling, even though it might be a fabrication from varric's point of view.

Keep in mind though what items and levels Hawke has isn't really relevant to the story, its the decisions hawke makes. My mage hawke has different items than my warrior hawke, that didn't change varric's story one bit. There are loads of unlockables that can used in any act, no one bats an eyelash if you have a buffed up hawke with a staff of Parlathan in act 1.

So doing a skipped timeline isn't impossible.

[Psycho_Kenshin]

The ideal DLC for me would be adventures with Isabela and Hawke on their pirate ship. The world map could be water and you dock at various places!

Of course, I know the DLC probably will be set around Kirkwall with Hawke's mansion as the home base, as that's what the post-game save implies.

Hopefully if they do make a proper expansion like Awakening, they beef that up a bit, maybe have your love interest (Isabela) live with you and have extra dialogue and romance.


As for Dragon Age III, really there's anything they could do. I'd guess for one thing, it'd have a larger scope, maybe several acts in different regions of the world.

Modifié par Psycho_Kenshin, 21 mars 2011 - 11:34 .

[Zenstrive]

1. I want to play as a Qunari Karasten in a DLC doing secret things for Arishok. Think of it: Dragon Age 2: Call of the Qun: Black Ops. You can play as another fereldan refugee, an alienage elf, or a oxman Sten.

For DA3, if it has Flemeth guiding a sarcastic Hawke in it I'll be happy. "

So, what do you think about the weather lately, Flem?"

"The wind will be strong enough for you to fly, clever child!"

[_Aine_]

Zenstrive wrote...

For DA3, if it has Flemeth guiding a sarcastic Hawke in it I'll be happy. "

i totally read that as " For DA3, it has Flemeth guiding a sarcastic Hawke in " If I'll be Happy"."

I thought it was a broadway musical DLC.  


*rubs eyes*  lol

Qunari involvement would be cool though.  In the DLC I mean, not necessarily in a musical.  

Modifié par shantisands, 22 mars 2011 - 12:03 .

[Maclimes]

Psycho_Kenshin wrote...

The ideal DLC for me would be adventures with Isabela and Hawke on their pirate ship. The world map could be water and you dock at various places!

Of course, I know the DLC probably will be set around Kirkwall with Hawke's mansion as the home base, as that's what the post-game save implies.

Hopefully if they do make a proper expansion like Awakening, they beef that up a bit, maybe have your love interest (Isabela) live with you and have extra dialogue and romance.


As for Dragon Age III, really there's anything they could do. I'd guess for one thing, it'd have a larger scope, maybe several acts in different regions of the world.

Well, the love interest could be any of them, not just Isabela, obviously.

But as a minor aside, it bothered me that when I loaded my Post-Campaign save, my love interest (Merrill) was not hanging around her usual place in the mansion. I know, it's not really intended to be played with. But still... 

[StaceysChain]

Hmm... personally for DA3, I'd quite like the option of picking a race again. Also I hope Bioware sticks to the choices we made in DAO/DA2. I don't want another "Anders" situation (In Awakening, I got the ending where the wardens became his ever-lasting companions - although I understand why they brought him back for DA2). One of the situation's being Morrigan's god child. In my playthrough, my Warden romanced her, refused the ritual but had a normal child with her anyway. I hope Bioware incorporates this into DA3 instead of ignoring it and giving Morrigan the "god-child" regardless (that's if they decide to continue with Morrigan's story of course).

Also, I wasn't to sure if Bioware had in fact ignored a choice for DA2. In my DA2 playthrough Nathaniel said my Warden spared the Architect, but I killed him in Awakening. Has it been confirmed that it's a bug or something else?

[Kingthlayer]

I see Hawke as being the central character for all future games. I would love if they allowed us to play as a new guy and chose from a combination of races but 6 possible VAs for the same character is crazy. Though I personally would have no problem if the same VA does every race if it allows me to play as a Dwarf, but based on my experiences with this forum, it would be flooded with tears.

I can live with playing as a human character again anyways, but if it's an elf, even with my hardcore nuthugging of everything BioWare I don't know if I can purchase the game.

As for DLC I would love to see one that adds story to each act and possibly adds stuff after as well. But I don't know how popular starting a new character for DLC would be. I would probably start a new Hawke for the first DLC they release anyways since I grow detached from my characters after a few months away from them. Then again we don't know when the first DLC is coming.

[Psycho_Kenshin]

I think we'll be seeing a new main protagonist for Dragon Age III, though I don't think we're done with Hawke, I just can't see Hawke starring in Dragon Age III.

Modifié par Psycho_Kenshin, 22 mars 2011 - 04:35 .

[DrZagreus]

I think BioWare will have as much time as they desire on DLC for Dragon Age 2. So anything is possible.  Realistically I don't see DA3 coming out until 2015 - 16 just because I reckon DA 3 will be huge.  I reckon we will have a world map and be able to travel to all the continents in Thedas. I also think we will have the choice between playing our Gray Warden or Hawke which will branch off into two different stories. I know 4 - 5 years is a long wait, but I reckon it will be worth the wait.

I reckon Sandal will play a major part in DA3 and his reveal will surprise us all as well.  Morrigan will return as well I think.

As for DLC for Dragon Age 2.  I want a mixture of DLC, but no Darkspawn Chronicle types of DLC.  I also want them to be at least five to eight hours long.  They should take place prior, during and after DA2 as well.

Modifié par DrZagreus, 22 mars 2011 - 06:37 .

[OLDIRTYBARON]

DrZagreus wrote...

I think BioWare will have as much time as they desire on DLC for Dragon Age 2. So anything is possible.  Realistically I don't see DA3 coming out until 2015 - 16 just because I reckon DA 3 will be huge.  I reckon we will have a world map and be able to travel to all the continents in Thedas. I also think we will have the choice between playing our Gray Warden or Hawke which will branch off into two different stories. I know 4 - 5 years is a long wait, but I reckon it will be worth the wait.

I reckon Sandal will play a major part in DA3 and his reveal will surprise us all as well.  Morrigan will return as well I think.

As for DLC for Dragon Age 2.  I want a mixture of DLC, but no Darkspawn Chronicle types of DLC.  I also want them to be at least five to eight hours long.  They should take place prior, during and after DA2 as well.

Brother, let me get a hit off of that crackpipe.

[Maclimes]

StaceysChain wrote...
Also, I wasn't to sure if Bioware had in fact ignored a choice for DA2. In my DA2 playthrough Nathaniel said my Warden spared the Architect, but I killed him in Awakening. Has it been confirmed that it's a bug or something else?

Yes. It's a bug with the way that Nathaniel's dialogue checks the flags, not the import itself. Your save file properly indicates that you killed the Architect, but Nathaniel just forgot to check that.