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[earovin]

 In the epilogue that I got, Cullen apparently became horribly anti-mage and went insane, going as far as killing several mage apprentices. However, there is no mention of this in DA2. Is this a bug or did I miss something?

[Addai]

He got better.

[TripLight]

It was the Magical hand wave, kinda like people who had Anders die in their Awakening Epilogues.

[Dragonette29]

In the codex it says he was sent to Kirkwall because of this, but how he suddenly tolerates apostates remains unexplained

[Ambeth]

As I recall, he makes mention of doing something terrible at the Fereldan circle before coming (or being sent?) to Kirkwall. He just couldn't look any of those mages in the eye and not remember his friends dying. The mages at Kirkwall don't seem cause him as much stress.

[Trophonius]

In my epilogue, he replaced a dead Greagoir and became a more brutal Knight-Commander of the Circle. I'd like to believe he's realized the error of his ways as age and experience tempered him. Some of his Origins personality does surface from time to time. For example, if you ask him why Elthina doesn't choose sides, he appears vexed about it and says that by divine right, the Chantry must always place the templars above everyone else. At the same time, he finds it cruel that she leads mages on long enough to plan an insurrection. Now that he's Knight-Commander of Kirkwall, I have faith that he'll minimize the impact of any mage-templar war.

[Matterialize]

He does say in DA2 that mages aren't really people, or something along those lines. I think he still hates/fears them almost as much as Fenris, but he doesn't let it control him any more. He seems to think about things more logically.

[dantares83]

so why he did come here to be a knight-captain when he has the chance to be knight-commander at Felderan.. Kirkwall seems to be a worse place to live in anyway... that is difficult to explain..

however, killing a few mages n escaping to Kirkwall is defintely explainable.. i mean ppl in Thedas kill without mercy/consequences... so no matter to lose a few more mages...

[Trophonius]

dantares83 wrote...

so why he did come here to be a knight-captain when he has the chance to be knight-commander at Felderan.. Kirkwall seems to be a worse place to live in anyway... that is difficult to explain..

however, killing a few mages n escaping to Kirkwall is defintely explainable.. i mean ppl in Thedas kill without mercy/consequences... so no matter to lose a few more mages...

That's why the second scenario sounds more plausible to me. The one I got doesn't make sense when you put his DA2 fate into context. From what I gathered in the codex, Greagoir is still Knight-Commander of the Circle in Ferelden and sent Cullen to Kirkwall. My guess is that Cullen is 'canonically' bound to be the next Knight-Commander of Kirkwall regardless of any choices made in DA:O.

[Irish Coffee]

This also apparently happened in the span of mere months.

Man the timeline is messed up...

[Esoj16]

Irish Coffee wrote...

This also apparently happened in the span of mere months.

Man the timeline is messed up...

That it is, I like to think that Hawke's first year in Kirkwall actually happens 1 year after the blight ended, that way it makes more sense for Anders to be in Kirkwall along with other things such as Cullen getting promoted.  So basically, one year passes by from Ostagar until they reach Kirkwall, so they pretty much reach Kirkwall slightly before the blight ended, then there's the year of servitude and that's when the events of Awakening and some other DLC happen, so by the time you meet Cullen and Anders, two years have passed since the beginning of Origins.  I don't think this has been confirmed but that's the way I like to think about it so that the timeline makes more sense. 

[dantares83]

Awakening supposedly happened 6 mths after the Blight.. it was said many times the Blight took a year (at max, prob less) to end.. so it is still plausible... Hawke spent 1 year as a odd-job labourer b4 the 1st act happened.. the first act actually had a span of 1 year... so it could happened towards the end of the 2nd year (maybe around the 9th mth) in Kirkwall.. by then, Anders would have finished his time in awakening and had some time to travel to Kirkwall and bulit up his name as a healer-mage...
Cullen would have even more time to escape to Kirkwall

[nubbers666]

when you come across this sort of thing its best to just slap a bug stamp on it and move on

there are more bugs in this game than a ant hill has ants

[Torax]

Keep in mind as well. Cullen fears mages but towards the end he starts to be more afraid of what Meredith was becoming than the mages themselves. Cullen just doesn't have overwhelming sympathy for them, but he doesn't truly believe they should all be destroyed. He just wants them watched more and not coddled. Meredith didn't seem to want them all Tranquil for just fear they would rebel. Why instead she was probably just waiting for an excuse to enact the right of annulment

[PrincessStabbity]

During my Origins game-play, I sided with the templars and annulled the circle. It specifically stated that Cullen took over as Knight-Commander of the Fereldan circle and that Greagoir died. I expected some sort of explanation from Cullen as to why he had essentially taken a demotion from Knight-Commander to Knight-Captain but I got nothing from him at all. I checked the codex and to my dismay it stated that Cullen had been sent to Kirkwall by Greagoir to get a fresh start given everything Uldred had put him through.

This is a huge miss in my opinion. Even a small little blurb about him having too many painful memories so he wanted to transfer...but to add in the part about the dead Greagoir sending him. It leaves me saying "hey fake Cullen" every time I run past him.

Cullen was one of my favourite NPC's in origins so it's a bit saddening to see that they completely mucked up his "backstory".

[dantares83]

i think most people who played as mage would have saved the circle.. the people at Bioware just decided to follow the majority...