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[ushae]

 (Spoilers Ahead)

So I've just finished the game on nightmare setting, and I rather enjoyed the combat quite a bit (PC version) but my main interest was always the story, which Bioware are renown for. Here's what I'm utterly confused about by the end of the game.

- What were the Grey Wardens doing that was of greater importance than open warfare with the Qunari, even Carver (in my playthrough anyway) made mention of it.
- Where is the Warden (It's either the original or the Orlesian warden, doesn't matter)?
- Where the hell did Hawke (and his/her love interest) disappear to ?
- What was Flemeth planning, and why did her role in the story diminish so suddenly. She saves Hawke, is resurrected by him and in the process we learn Flemeth can 'separate' herself into smaller fragments, then *poof* she's gone never to be heard from again.
- In the end Leliana and Cassandra linked both Hawke and the Warden's disappearance to the same event. What was that ?
- The Idol had more significance than most people realise, is it linked to the Darkspawn or some greater threat ?

The storytelling was great, but the inconclusive plot points made me (and probably many more fans) feel like this was Dragon Age 1.5, rather than a proper sequal.

Did anyone else pickup on those points and make more sense of them than me ?

Thanks.

[AlexXIV]

These and other questions will be evaluated in my next report.

[Haasth]

Before I even give this a bash... Most of this is a mystery and all answers are based on speculation. I don't think anyone here actually knows what most of this means.. Well other than BioWare developers possibly.

ushae wrote...

 (Spoilers Ahead)

So I've just finished the game on nightmare setting, and I rather enjoyed the combat quite a bit (PC version) but my main interest was always the story, which Bioware are renown for. Here's what I'm utterly confused about by the end of the game.

- What were the Grey Wardens doing that was of greater importance than open warfare with the Qunari, even Carver (in my playthrough anyway) made mention of it.
- Where is the Warden (It's either the original or the Orlesian warden, doesn't matter)?
- Where the hell did Hawke (and his/her love interest) disappear to ?
- What was Flemeth planning, and why did her role in the story diminish so suddenly. She saves Hawke, is resurrected by him and in the process we learn Flemeth can 'separate' herself into smaller fragments, then *poof* she's gone never to be heard from again.
- In the end Leliana and Cassandra linked both Hawke and the Warden's disappearance to the same event. What was that ?
- The Idol had more significance than most people realise, is it linked to the Darkspawn or some greater threat ?

The storytelling was great, but the inconclusive plot points made me (and probably many more fans) feel like this was Dragon Age 1.5, rather than a proper sequal.

Did anyone else pickup on those points and make more sense of them than me ?

Thanks.

- What were the Grey Wardens doing that was of greater importance than open warfare with the Qunari, even Carver (in my playthrough anyway) made mention of it.

Grey Wardens generally keep neutral when it comes down to these kind of fights. Especially the Templar versus Mage fight. So even if they didn't have 'anything important' to do... they may very well not join in. But, Carver mentions near the end that he 'should be out hunting Archdemons'. Though I doubt this is actually true. But if you do the Finding Nethaniel quest they mention that no one has ever gone so far into the Deep Roads and they seem to find this a rather important mission. Carver is also there, so this may very well be what he was referring to. Honestly though, I got no clue. It sure sounds exciting, doesn't it? 

- Where is the Warden (It's either the original or the Orlesian warden, doesn't matter)?

Who knows? Leliana and Cassandra sure seem to want to know where he/she is desperately. Last I saw, my Warden stepped through the portal with Morrigan. (Wouldn't it be amusing if Hawke ends up doing the same with Merrill through the Eluvian she possesses?) 

- Where the hell did Hawke (and his/her love interest) disappear to?

Again! Who knows? This is something we'll find out in the future. I'd love to know right now, but I don't. No one does!

- What was Flemeth planning, and why did her role in the story diminish so suddenly. She saves Hawke, is resurrected by him and in the process we learn Flemeth can 'separate' herself into smaller fragments, then *poof* she's gone never to be heard from again.

She seemed rather interested in what Morrigan is doing at any rate. Who I'm pretty sure is alive, no matter what you did in Witch Hunt. I bet it is linked with Sandal's little prophecy, "One day the magic will return" etc etc. This is likely just *wink wink* and foreshadowing for Dragon Age 3. 

- In the end Leliana and Cassandra linked both Hawke and the Warden's disappearance to the same event. What was that ?

They didn't link it to the same event. They found it curious that they both appeared. They are both legends in their own right, they have a lot in common in many ways. Depending a lot on how your Warden was and Hawke was of course. For example, in my playthrough it is rather curious that both of the times Mages came to the rescue. And they seemed to want to find Hawke to solve the conflict between the Circle and the Templars anyway. I'm sure the Warden would be capable of helping out with this too. Though I am pretty sure there are some ulterior motives at stake. 

- The Idol had more significance than most people realise, is it linked to the Darkspawn or some greater threat?

I don't think it's linked to the Darkspawn. It seems more another power in it's own right. Created by an odd Dwarven faction that apparently didn't revere the Paragons. So who knows what kind of interesting, dangerous things were going on down there. I don't think time was very kind on them though.. having turned into those odd rock wraiths/profanes.

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To sum up:
We don't know. We'll find out. I can't wait to hear more, I'd wish I could say more.. But this is all a mystery! 

[labdG]

I think the endings of most Bioware games are too instant. When you've gotten to know and love these characters, you want to talk to them again at least one last time and you wish to know what happens to them. Mass Effect 2 wasn't that bad since you could talk to the party members after the suicide mission but Mass Effect 1 and the Dragon Age games make me so sad and angry. In Dragon Age 2 I romanced Isabela and before the final battle I promised her that we would get through this. That makes me want to celebrate our happy ending together but no. We get to hear mysterious tales and that's supposed to be enough.
I will be greatly dissapointed if Mass Effect 3 will do the same misstake.

[TheBlackBaron]

1) It's open to speculation. My personal theory is that it was a prelude to Nathaniel's expedition in the Deep Roads, which IIRC was to search for the Primordial Thaig.

Just an idea, of course. They could have been doing any number of things; that one will likely only be answered in DA3.

2) Well, mine's currently off in Mirrorworld with Morrigan. That certainly qualifies as a mysterious disappearance (Cassandra and Leliana probably interviewed Finn from WH so they may know why he disappeared, but not know where he is or how to reach him). Everybody else, I have a strong suspicion it's Flemeth shenanigans and may be linked towards whatever the Grey Warden group from Act II was up to.

3) Wait for DLC/xpack.

4) No clue. Utterly wasted potential, if you ask me, especially after her role was made out to be considerably bigger by being one of the first pieces of concept art revealed and having her narrate the trailers.

5) See numbers 2 and 3.

6) Ditto.

You may have noticed a theme here - nobody but the writers know for sure what's up with all of those. Everything we could say is just speculation.

[DJ0000]

1. Story for another day I presume. Or possibly just a way of not offering too much help as to make it too simple.

2. Disappeared apparently, "lost in the shuffle" as Ohgren might say. I was disappointed that my Warden seemed to have broken up with Leliana. I could have accepted it if she just walked into the horizon with her love but I guess Leliana wanted to fight for a bigger purpose.

3. Will most likely be found in the 3rd game. Unless Hawke just vanishes aswell as the Warden, which is a decent chance as they say they want to tell lots of stories from the Dragon Age to show that the world is more important than just one person.

4.3rd or 4 th game. She seemed to regret something she had done if I remeber what she said correctly. Someone suggested that she may be Fan Harel which seems an interesting hypothesis to me.

5. Very intersting to me when I heard it but David Gaider said that this was a misunderstanding and that they meant that the Warden was similarly out of reach, not necessarily by the same forces. I hope that their disappearances are related though, it would make for an extremely inruiging story. Mabey they were recruited into Flemeth's plan after passing her tests.

6. I was dissapointed that it was destoyed in the end because I think that basically means that we will never know. I have a theory that it was used in the Tevinter ritual to enter the Golden city and was corupted.

[Ziggeh]

The business about it not being a coincidence that both the warden and Hawke have dissapeared takes on an odd flavour if they buried one of them six feet below a field. So strange for him to have dissapeared from view like that. What with all the earth.

Personally my only real question was what was the deal with the old taig and the new lyrium. It was effectively the cause of the whole situation, I find it hard to believe it was just some old mojo messing with dudes.

[Helen0rz]

ushae wrote...

 (Spoilers Ahead)

So I've just finished the game on nightmare setting, and I rather enjoyed the combat quite a bit (PC version) but my main interest was always the story, which Bioware are renown for. Here's what I'm utterly confused about by the end of the game.

- What were the Grey Wardens doing that was of greater importance than open warfare with the Qunari, even Carver (in my playthrough anyway) made mention of it.
- Where is the Warden (It's either the original or the Orlesian warden, doesn't matter)?
- Where the hell did Hawke (and his/her love interest) disappear to ?
- What was Flemeth planning, and why did her role in the story diminish so suddenly. She saves Hawke, is resurrected by him and in the process we learn Flemeth can 'separate' herself into smaller fragments, then *poof* she's gone never to be heard from again.
- In the end Leliana and Cassandra linked both Hawke and the Warden's disappearance to the same event. What was that ?
- The Idol had more significance than most people realise, is it linked to the Darkspawn or some greater threat ?

The storytelling was great, but the inconclusive plot points made me (and probably many more fans) feel like this was Dragon Age 1.5, rather than a proper sequal.

Did anyone else pickup on those points and make more sense of them than me ?

Thanks.

Here's what I picked up:

a set up for DA3 or DA2: <insert something here>

much like Assasins Creed 2 and Assasins Creed: Brotherhood, except AC2/Brotherhood did not end on a cliffhanger where I wanted to chunk my controller at someone. I dont like how it's purposely done, I mean I like the game for the most part but sitll...

[Zenstrive]

So many lingeries beg a question: why? why did you dump us?