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[mesmerizedish]

Xewaka wrote...

Thrask

Dead

Cullen

Kind of a douche

Emeric

Dead

Greagoir

Kind of a douche and in a whole separate country

Wesley

Dead

[Sabariel]

Xewaka wrote...

I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...
 Templars are pretty s**ty too. You just have to pick the less s**ty of the two, which in my opinion, is the mages, since they have innocent people in their faction.

*Quietly points at Thrask, Cullen, Emeric, Greagoir, Wesley, and several other unnamed and unmourned heroes*

...How is Wesley a hero? Or Cullen? Or Greagoir?

[TexasToast712]

Pileyourbodies wrote...
TJ that kid you rescue with grace IS a blood mage.

He only uses blood magic to revive your sister/brother/LI/friend that gets kidnapped. He wasnt a blood mage up until that point.

[Xewaka]

Sabariel wrote...
...How is Wesley a hero? Or Cullen? Or Greagoir?

Because they understand peace and compromise.

[TexasToast712]

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

The good mages are the ones who weren't sitting under the templar thumb, being driven mad by their tyranny. Examples: Danarius, Hadriana, Merrill, Taronhe, etc.

Your are such a troll.

[Sabariel]

Xewaka wrote...

Sabariel wrote...
...How is Wesley a hero? Or Cullen? Or Greagoir?

Because they understand peace and compromise.

Greagoir having no problem with Irving and the rest of the Circle being annuled is compromise?

Cullen telling Hawke that "mages aren't people" is a peaceful notion?

The only reason Wesley doesn't drag Bethany/Hawke in is because the Blight is breathing down their necks. He didn't act out of compassion for mages.

I wouldn't call them "heroes", exactly. Wouldn't call them jackasses either... except maybe Cullen... sometimes... jackass...

Modifié par Sabariel, 22 mars 2011 - 01:17 .

[TJPags]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Pileyourbodies wrote...
TJ that kid you rescue with grace IS a blood mage.

He only uses blood magic to revive your sister/brother/LI/friend that gets kidnapped. He wasnt a blood mage up until that point.

Ahhh, yes - he does turn to it in the end.

So 2 non-blood mages . .. Ella and Bethany.

Wow.

[Xewaka]

Sabariel wrote...
Greagoir having no problem with Irving and the rest of the Circle being annuled is compromise?
Cullen telling Hawke that "mages aren't people" is a peaceful notion?
The only reason Wesley doesn't drag Bethany/Hawke in is because the Blight is breathing down their necks. He didn't act out of compassion for mages.

Greagoir has to take an unhappy decision in a moment of crisis to avoid it spill and damage the whole country.
Cullen position progress as the plot unfolds.
Wesley was the chosen man of Aveline.

[Sabariel]

Xewaka wrote...

Sabariel wrote...
Greagoir having no problem with Irving and the rest of the Circle being annuled is compromise?
Cullen telling Hawke that "mages aren't people" is a peaceful notion?
The only reason Wesley doesn't drag Bethany/Hawke in is because the Blight is breathing down their necks. He didn't act out of compassion for mages.

Greagoir has to take an unhappy decision in a moment of crisis to avoid it spill and damage the whole country.
Cullen position progress as the plot unfolds.
Wesley was the chosen man of Aveline.

Afterward, when he sees that Irving is not corrupted, he still has no problem annuling the entire Circle. No compromise there.

Not by much. Cullen's views are still pretty skewed. I can see why they're skewed, but they're still skewed.

...And? Wesley still doesn't act out of any compassion for the mages. There's nothing all that heroic about him.

There's nothing really heroic about anyone in DA2... except maybe Hawke... unless you roleplayed him/her as dickish as everyone else

Modifié par Sabariel, 22 mars 2011 - 01:23 .

[CCCHAMP]

i just want to know how anders did the giant ray thing through the chantry, could have been helpfull during high dragon, merideth and orsino

[Sabariel]

CCCHAMP wrote...

i just want to know how anders did the giant ray thing through the chantry, could have been helpfull during high dragon, merideth and orsino

Ser-Pounce-A-Lot made a return and brought his wrath down upon the Chantry.

[Dark Specie]

CCCHAMP wrote...

i just want to know how anders did the giant ray thing through the chantry, could have been helpfull during high dragon, merideth and orsino

It wasn't exactly a ray, it was a bomb he placed in the Chantry earlier...

[Xewaka]

CCCHAMP wrote...
i just want to know how anders did the giant ray thing through the chantry, could have been helpfull during high dragon, merideth and orsino

Charcoal, fertilizer, a couple unmentioned extras? He planted a bomb.

[AlexXIV]

TJPags wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Pileyourbodies wrote...
TJ that kid you rescue with grace IS a blood mage.

He only uses blood magic to revive your sister/brother/LI/friend that gets kidnapped. He wasnt a blood mage up until that point.

Ahhh, yes - he does turn to it in the end.

So 2 non-blood mages . .. Ella and Bethany.

Wow.

Of those we know.

[LobselVith8]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

The good mages are the ones who weren't sitting under the templar thumb, being driven mad by their tyranny. Examples: Danarius, Hadriana, Merrill, Taronhe, etc.

Your are such a troll.

I think we can disagree with each other's opinions on templars and mages without calling people trolls for it. Given that the quest Meredith places us on to hunt for two mages who were clearly driven over the edge from their time in the Kirkwall Circle (since they were sane beforehand, especially when we consider that Evalina was a member of the Circle of Ferelden), I don't see why Emperor Iaius is off the mark in addressing that the mages outside the Circle (like Bethany, Malcolm, Merrill, Terrie, Marethari) seem to be relatively sane in comparison to how it seems to twist some mages (like Grace, Huon,  Evelina).

[KAAurious]

No. Maybe to get the population to hate Anders, but not mages.

[ZombiePowered]

You know how a lot of Americans hate Muslims because some terrorists who were Muslims attacked us in the name of Islam, even though most Muslims don't support terrorism? Yes, well Anders did that for DA2. Which is awesome, because it is once again bringing in contemporary issues into the game to make the entire world that much more relatable, believable, and complicated.

[Foolsfolly]

I don't know if they just wanted mages hated....but man, I was a mage supporter turn Templar supporter because of this game.

It's hard to support corruption, madness, abominations, and blood magic. I'll actually take the lyrium addicted zealots in this round. Keep the mages locked up and keep the people of Thedas safe.

[NRO TYN]

I dont hate mages..but i will admit they kinda scare me in the "Im your best friend but im turning evil and im gonna sacrifice your family way"

[Foolsfolly]

ZombiePowered wrote...

You know how a lot of Americans hate Muslims because some terrorists who were Muslims attacked us in the name of Islam, even though most Muslims don't support terrorism? Yes, well Anders did that for DA2. Which is awesome, because it is once again bringing in contemporary issues into the game to make the entire world that much more relatable, believable, and complicated.

Yeah, that doesn't really work.

If you saw a bunch of hillbillies beating up a Muslim and you chased off the hillbillies the Muslim wouldn't transform into a seven foot tall monster who's only intent is to eat your still beating heart.

Although, if that does happen to you then you know those hillbillies were heroes and you stopped them from killing a horror movie monster. Great job.

[Virginian]

I hate the mages & Templars evenly.

I hate mages because they are sissies, they have all that power that isn't linked to demon and they resort to demon power and when they do fight back they get their asses kicked. Plus they took way to long to stand up and fight and only did it when they were faced with annihilation.

Templars for being the soldiers of the Chantry.

[Taleroth]

Xewaka wrote...

Sabariel wrote...
...How is Wesley a hero? Or Cullen? Or Greagoir?

Because they understand peace and compromise.

Wesley understood a cease fire, even Meredith was capable of that.  If Cullen truly understood peace he would have stabbed Meredith in the spine years ago.  And Greagoir, he simply wasn't an extremist.  He displayed no compromise.

Modifié par Taleroth, 22 mars 2011 - 05:25 .