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What's the deal with that elven (ex) slave?


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silver-crescent

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 The one from Fenris's quest. Does she actually have any plot relevance?

I ended up giving her a (paid) job at the Hawke estate, but now Leandra is acting like I'm using her as a slave <_<

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Her only relevance to me was using her to ****** off Fenris. Pissing off Fenris never gets old.

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She only messed up Fenris further for me. Got +15 friendship for hiring her. It's so hard to get him to go total friend or total rival ~_~

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I told him that she was going to be my slave and he was furious. Then I was like "Fine, I'll pay her if I really have to." Got like 20 rivalry.

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Nah. She just hangs around your house and tells you how sorry she is about your mom.

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Now I wish I would have just told her to leave.

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I choose option "you can come and stay with me", if Fenris object, tell him you offer her a job, not slavery.

I think it's actually nice for Hawke to offer the girl a place to stay. She's never been free, don't know how to deal with the world as a free person, don't know how to make choices for her own. If Hawke send her away with or without money, she'd probably get caught by another slaver and go back to slavery.

I'm quite happy I end up hiring her as a servant.

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Well yeah it is a nice thing of Hawke to do, but I hate how the mother acts like Hawke got a slave even if he is actually paying her.

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Well, the girl probably acts like a slave.

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Emperor Iaius I

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Why pay her? She's a slave.

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Emperor Iaius I wrote...

Why pay her? She's a slave.


true but if your taking the moral high road you can pay her & still get a servant, think of it as training her to cope in her new life of no longer being a slave

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If you want to take the moral high road, then she needs counseling. It's nice that she has a useful skill and is being paid for it, but given the amount of mental damage she has, it's likely she won't see it as being functionally different from being a slave.

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Do you really think there is counseling available in Thedas? Really?

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I took her in and paid her. I like to think my Hawke did what she could to help her grow as a person and get past the slave mindset (I'm sure since I romanced Fenris he was there to help as well). So hopefully the end result will be a happier, healthier Orana with a nice nest egg saved up to start her new life with.

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Emperor Iaius I wrote...

If you want to take the moral high road, then she needs counseling. It's nice that she has a useful skill and is being paid for it, but given the amount of mental damage she has, it's likely she won't see it as being functionally different from being a slave.


I think it´s been pretty well established that counseling in the DA universe constists of praying, converting to the qun or get tranquil-ized considering the state of people.

I still feel pretty good about taking her in as a servant, it´s made pretty clear that she does not undersand anything other than housekeeping so you give her shelter, a home & money while she adjusts to freedom in the sense she can. And considering the occupations of elves, being a life long servant would not be a bad thing for her.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

Do you really think there is counseling available in Thedas? Really?


Why wouldn't there be? Counseling, as a concept, existed long before it was a professional vocation or a science. Priests and philosophers regularly attempted to heal wounds of the psyche in ye olden days.

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I take her in, poor thing. I like to think that Hawke pays her handsomely and engages someone (probably Bodhan, since mummy thinks she's a slave q_q) to teach her to read and write and stuff. And I totally take her with me when I flee Kirkwall.

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Emperor Iaius I wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Do you really think there is counseling available in Thedas? Really?


Why wouldn't there be? Counseling, as a concept, existed long before it was a professional vocation or a science. Priests and philosophers regularly attempted to heal wounds of the psyche in ye olden days.


It could be a new specialize skill for main character - Counseling, activate ability, party member immue to Horror. 

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It heals spirit damage.

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Emperor Iaius I wrote...

It heals spirit damage.


:lol:

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fluorine7 wrote...

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Do you really think there is counseling available in Thedas? Really?


Why wouldn't there be? Counseling, as a concept, existed long before it was a professional vocation or a science. Priests and philosophers regularly attempted to heal wounds of the psyche in ye olden days.


It could be a new specialize skill for main character - Counseling, activate ability, party member immue to Horror. 


How about after beating the game, Hawke would set up Thedas' first Medical School with its Psychology Department, maybe in collaboration with the Chantry.  Hawke's School of Medicinal and Healing, Mental Healing and Tranquilizing Department.  That would be nice.  For those who are too far beyond repair, make them tranquil, else mental healing would do nicely.  It is the combination of Magic Healing, Praying to the Maker, and Personal Advisory (aka Counseling in Earth's language).  Next thing we know DA2 will come out with a DLC for Hospital/Medical school sim.

With all seriousness, I do agree that it is indeed very hard for a slave to survive in the free world.  It was hard enough for Native Americans being forcefully converted from their nomadic commune society to Westerner's society (btw Native Americans are true communists, and that is not a bad remark).  Then the black slaves in America got their freedom in 1800s.  History shows.  I think it would be right to give her a paid job.  She will run into a lot of problems and mistakes being a free person.  And when the world collapses on her, she still has a job and a bed at Hawke's estate.  We would welcome any opportunist, slaver or not, to come to Hawke's estate causing trouble in attempt to take advantage of a recently freed (thus enlightened to the free world) slave girl.  I welcome the xp and loot, and I will certainly win the fight (if not, I will load last save, or worse, I will move down to Casual mode).

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Emperor Iaius I wrote...

If you want to take the moral high road, then she needs counseling.

If you want to take the moral high road, she needs something the PC and other characters would probably know nothing about as it doesn't exist in their world?

Why not say, "If you really care about Merrill, your PC should get her on antidepressants?"

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

If you want to take the moral high road, then she needs counseling.

If you want to take the moral high road, she needs something the PC and other characters would probably know nothing about as it doesn't exist in their world?

Why not say, "If you really care about Merrill, your PC should get her on antidepressants?"


Antidepressants, orgasms, tomato, tomahto.

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my question is what happens to her after the mage revolution begins? cuz hawke in most endings leaves kirkwall right? i guess she's just stuck on her own...i.e. sucks to be her

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Hawke can take her with him/her, or she can ask friends to take care of her, offer a new place to work/stay. I'm sure over the 10 years Hawke has been in Kirkwall, he/she must know some decent people who would take in another nice servant.