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[Lekwid]

I'm currently doing a 2h warrior playthrough and got to the part where you fight the Arishok.  I accept his challenge and duel him....it sure is retarded.  All we're doing is chugging potions for 15 minutes.  Pretty boring.

In my mage playthrough, I just ran around and threw spells at him while my dog nipped at his heels. 

Can't imagine how boring it's going to be when I go through it with my next class, rogue archer.

How did everyone feel about this whole Arishok vs Hawke experience?  I understand they're going for a fairly epic fight with the Arishok being insanely tough but the only way to lose this battle is running out of potions and standing still instead of running.

[MasterSolo]

In my fight with the Arishok I think I used only one potion, and that was on my hard playthrough. He hits hard, but attaks slow. Use that to your advantage and you can beat him fast. I enjoyed the fight a lot actually, even more than most of the boss fights in the game. But that might be just me.

[wollert]

I liked the fight, however I feel warrior is the least suited class for it. Warrior is by defenition a defensive style based around holding your ground and deal out damage to groups. No matter how strong of a warrior you are the Arishok is stronger and will slay you if you both stand your ground and swing. My warrior ran around chugging potions and waiting for cool downs, chipping away piece by piece.

My mage was better, cast the force mage snail spell, pew-pew with the stick and different hit spells (winter blast, stonefist).

Looking forward to my DW rogue relying on speed and precisions to dodge his attacks and have him chasing his tail while dishing out dps. The archer would probably try to keep a distance and fire debilitators/controller talents. Havent played a archer so is not familiar what talents there are or how they affect the Arishok.

[mesmerizedish]

I never needed potions, because I never let him hit me (seriously, not even once*). It was a pretty dumb fight, though. Fifteen minutes of kiting and scything wasn't my idea of heroic fun.




*I'm not bragging. If I did let him hit me, even once, the force was always enough to stagger me, so I didn't have control of my character. Before I regained control, he'd hit me again. The cycle would continue until I died, not once being able to move.

[Sabariel]

My entire fight with the Arishok consisted of: "CRAPCRAPCRAPCRAP!" *hide*

It was the most unheroic battle of Hawke's life. Varric had a lot of glossing over to do. lol

[Zenstrive]

I fought him hands on. Except when he starts dancing and spurring. I ran.

[Jatika]

Didn't really get the option of a duel, I just fought him and all the others.. Must've picked wrong somewhere.

Modifié par Jatika, 22 mars 2011 - 01:53 .

[mesmerizedish]

Jatika wrote...

Didn't really get the option of a duel, I just fought him and all the others.. Must've picked wrong somewhere.

He challenges you to a duel if you've earned his respect in your dealings with him throughout Acts I and II. If you have Fenris with you, Fenris will suggest a duel even if you haven't earned Arishok's respect.

[Lekwid]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

I never needed potions, because I never let him hit me (seriously, not even once*). It was a pretty dumb fight, though. Fifteen minutes of kiting and scything wasn't my idea of heroic fun.
 

Sounds like a well suited strategy for an archer.  I'll have to pull off the no hitter on my next playthrough.

[mesmerizedish]

Lekwid wrote...

Sounds like a well suited strategy for an archer.  I'll have to pull off the no hitter on my next playthrough.

Ha! It'd have been a lot easier as an archer! I'd at least have been able to use some talents besides Scythe! I was playing a warrior.

[Tintin VS China]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

I never needed potions, because I never let him hit me (seriously, not even once*).

You must have gotten hit, since the "stab-lift" is un-dodgable.

I'm playing on hard and having SERIOUS difficulties with this boss, mainly because I don't have enough potions, and managed to overwrite my pre-qunari compound save...
Guess I'll have to do it full party then... *sigh*

[Urbanus Venator]

I dueled him as a dual weapon rogue. It was epic fun, just bouncing around him, using backstab as often as possible, he can barely hit you.

[Ealos]

Had an awesome finish as an archer, Arishok bearing down on me, one arrow in him, two arrow in him, his axe goes up and wham, Assassinate right in the face. Boy it felt good.
Mind you, if he hit me once he could almost finish me, by the time I'd picked myself up I'd get sent flying again.

[VheodTh]

I was surprised when I let Arishok take Isabela and they just LEFT It was a great move from Bioware to be able to avoid the whole fight.

[Felene]

Always respec before the Arishok fight.

Warrior->Two-hand reaver. Very fast fight.

Mage-> Force mage with all cc and single target spell. Arishok is now a target dummy and my mage keeps drinking mana pots.

Rogue-> Duo-wield. Evade and backstab. Repeat.

[Giltspur]

Well, I mostly ran from him and made him charge head first into pillars.  And had the combat speed bug.  Ahaha.  I'm doing my slow-motion-crane-kick-stance-before-lightning-spell dance and he's already caught up to me and hit me three times.  

So I think people in the audience were shifting around uncomfortably in their seats wondering how the two baddest dudes in Kirkwall could look like such losers when fighting.

I actually heard one guy in the crowd say "I haven't walked out of a movie since Crossroads!"  Brutal.  But I guess that's how it sometimes goes.

It's just a group game.  The fight is wildly different depending on your spec.  I wish I had a good idea on how to make a proper duel in Dragon Age.  But I can't come up with one other than them scanning your spec and having that adjust what abilities the guy you're fighting has.

Modifié par Giltspur, 23 mars 2011 - 05:03 .

[Amagoi]

Sabariel wrote...

My entire fight with the Arishok consisted of: "CRAPCRAPCRAPCRAP!" *hide*

It was the most unheroic battle of Hawke's life. Varric had a lot of glossing over to do. lol

This is exactly what I did. The entire fight was just Hawke running away, turning around long enough to freeze him in place, cast spells, then run again.

Thank goodness the Qunari aren't much for talking about how much of a wussy the Champion was.

[PPR223]

Gets pretty boring with a shield warrior. I could last for ages against his attacks, but he took ages to kill.

Two-handed warrior is not so bad, but you need more potions.

Archer is actually quite quick, aslong as you keep away from him.

[Valingard]

My 2h War kicked the Arishok's butt. I used one stm potion and that was it. I have my warrior specced with the entire 2h tree, bolster, and Reaver. I also used a potion, I forget which one, but its effect was 25% reduction in attack speed and movement speed, I bought it from the Black Emporium.

I have yet to play through it as a rogue or mage, but from what I heard he is weak to frost...

[Earthlump]

Im in the middle of this fight on hard. Im playing blood mage/spirit healer. And oh my god, I had to take a break after 20 minutes. This fight is SO immensely BORING that I want to cry.  I basicly spent the last 20 minutes kiting him around a pillar waiting for my pretrify to cool down. Once I have him pinned, I unleash every spell ive got... and start kiting again..... AND THEN HE TAKES A @#%$ HEALTH POTION <_<.... How could Bioware put in a fight THIS crap. How could you Bioware? And im still in the middle of it... See you in 40 minutes

Modifié par Earthlump, 27 mars 2011 - 07:23 .

[Arkuran]

I just ran in a loop around the pillars waiting for all cooldown timers.

[Earthlump]

Oh yes I do that too, but my point is; how could they have put in a fight as unenjoyable as this? The only difficulty in this is that it take AGES before the fight is over, especially cause he uses a health potion like 4 times. Its not 'hard' its 'tedious'. Developers often fail at making things challenging and sadly Bioware seems to have joined their ranks.

Atleast agree with me on this; Bossfights should not take you 45 minutes of running circles around a pillar waiting for your cooldowns....

Modifié par Earthlump, 27 mars 2011 - 07:36 .

[Emperor Iaius I]

My fight went like this: dead. reload. Dead. Reload. I couldn't even kite, because the second I used a spell, he was already on me.

So I rejected the duel and did the massive group fight. That was a bit easier, but by the time all of the Arishok's buddies were dead, my entire party was dead save Merrill, so it ended up being a one-on-one anyway.

Luckily, Merrill is a lot stronger than my Hawke so she could take him on but it just seemed anticlimactic.